How much money has Pathoma made?

[DermViser]

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learning from high quality material is easier.....

Goljan is also high quality material.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Goljan is also high quality material.

True. However, I must admit that if I'm comparing Goljan audio for Step 1 vs Pathoma, hands down that showdown goes to Pathoma (imo) no matter how flexed Poppie's biceps are. As much as it pains me to put Goljan second, there's no way in hell I would have foregone Pathoma for Goljan Step 1 audio. I ended up using both for different purposes. Pathoma for the foundational understanding, and Goljan for the integration and clinical acumen. Haven't listened to his Step 2 audio yet but I have high hopes. His "RR" Path is excellent.

 

[PL198]

True. However, I must admit that if I'm comparing Goljan audio for Step 1 vs Pathoma, hands down that showdown goes to Pathoma (imo) no matter how flexed Poppie's biceps are. As much as it pains me to put Goljan second, there's no way in hell I would have foregone Pathoma for Goljan Step 1 audio. I ended up using both for different purposes. Pathoma for the foundational understanding, and Goljan for the integration and clinical acumen. Haven't listened to his Step 2 audio yet but I have high hopes. His "RR" Path is excellent.

I don't get why you're comparing them then if you yourself say you used them for different purposes. They aren't the same thing. You could use RR path + first aid and do pretty darn good on step 1. If you just used FA + pathoma? Probably not as good, yet I can read the whole pathoma book in like 1/4 of the time than RR path because it's 1/4 the size and the content is about 1/10th as dense. I love pathoma, but it's more of a teaching tool than a holistic review with integration method.

 

[DermViser]

True. However, I must admit that if I'm comparing Goljan audio for Step 1 vs Pathoma, hands down that showdown goes to Pathoma (imo) no matter how flexed Poppie's biceps are. As much as it pains me to put Goljan second, there's no way in hell I would have foregone Pathoma for Goljan Step 1 audio. I ended up using both for different purposes. Pathoma for the foundational understanding, and Goljan for the integration and clinical acumen. Haven't listened to his Step 2 audio yet but I have high hopes. His "RR" Path is excellent.

Well most people who use Goljan Audio use it with his notes or his Rapid Review book. I don't know anyone that JUST listens to the audio.

I'm sure Pathoma is fine for a Path only med school course. I don't know how much cross integration across different basic science subjects there is in Pathoma. It's why RR Path blows BRS Path out of the water, although Phloston swears by it.

 

[PL198]

Well most people who use Goljan Audio use it with his notes or his Rapid Review book. I don't know anyone that JUST listens to the audio.

I'm sure Pathoma is fine for a Path only med school course. I don't know how much cross integration across different basic science subjects there is in Pathoma. It's why RR Path blows BRS Path out of the water, although Phloston swears by it.

isn't that person one of the rainmen that got like 275+? if so, a) idk if their testimony is valid to mortals b) if you have that level of basic sciences knowledge, they probably don't need the integration because they can figure out all the connections by themselves. that seems to explain why they might just like the path only stuff

 

[DermViser]

isn't that person one of the rainmen that got like 275+? if so, a) idk if their testimony is valid to mortals b) if you have that level of basic sciences knowledge, they probably don't need the integration because they can figure out all the connections by themselves. that seems to explain why they might just like the path only stuff

I don't know about 275+ but he studied quite hardcore, I believe he needed a high score bc he's an Australian med student going for Plastics. He tends to nit-pick on really small details like certain Pharm Cards not having every last miniscule drug/detail, more just being overly anal-retentive (he's a good guy though).

That beind said, he has no idea what the American match involves, and I guarantee that PDs aren't saying to themselves, let's take this guy bc he got a 260 over this guy who got a 250. It's one freakin' metric. It's not the entire application.

 

[NeuroLAX]

I don't get why you're comparing them then if you yourself say you used them for different purposes. They aren't the same thing. You could use RR path + first aid and do pretty darn good on step 1. If you just used FA + pathoma? Probably not as good, yet I can read the whole pathoma book in like 1/4 of the time than RR path because it's 1/4 the size and the content is about 1/10th as dense. I love pathoma, but it's more of a teaching tool than a holistic review with integration method.

I see what you're saying. That's fair. I've just seen and heard a lot of people from school and here ask which to use as if they were making a choice. Not the best comparison, and yeah I find using them for their respective strengths to be most beneficial.

 

[NeuroLAX]

Well most people who use Goljan Audio use it with his notes or his Rapid Review book. I don't know anyone that JUST listens to the audio.

I'm sure Pathoma is fine for a Path only med school course. I don't know how much cross integration across different basic science subjects there is in Pathoma. It's why RR Path blows BRS Path out of the water, although Phloston swears by it.

For the sake of time it is difficult to commit to multiple path sources. His notes are good, but I never found the time to do that + audio + RR path + Pathoma. It ended up being audio + Pathoma + supplemental RR Path for me.

I haven't been too impressed by BRS. Physio is decent. I've heard her actual text is much better.

 

[DermViser]

For the sake of time it is difficult to commit to multiple path sources. His notes are good, but I never found the time to do that + audio + RR path + Pathoma. It ended up being audio + Pathoma + supplemental RR Path for me.

I haven't been too impressed by BRS. Physio is decent. I've heard her actual text is much better.

Pathoma is a relatively new source that's apparently is the new gold standard for Path. I used Goljan Audio + his book RR Path during the med school Pathology course. Before RR Path existed BRS Path was the gold standard for years.

BRS only works if your foundation is strong already. Her bigger Physiology text is excellent.

 

[PL198]

I don't know about 275+ but he studied quite hardcore, I believe he needed a high score bc he's an Australian med student going for Plastics. He tends to nit-pick on really small details like certain Pharm Cards not having every last miniscule drug/detail, more just being overly anal-retentive (he's a good guy though).

That beind said, he has no idea what the American match involves, and I guarantee that PDs aren't saying to themselves, let's take this guy bc he got a 260 over this guy who got a 250. It's one freakin' metric. It's not the entire application.

I'm pretty sure I said if I get 270+ I will tattoo it on my body. I stand by this commitment.

 

[PL198]

I see what you're saying. That's fair. I've just seen and heard a lot of people from school and here ask which to use as if they were making a choice. Not the best comparison, and yeah I find using them for their respective strengths to be most beneficial.

I don't understand that really. Maybe one pass in the dedicated time, I guess. It seems like pathoma is the high yield path stuff that you should have memorized long before it's ever time to take step 1. I feel like RR path would be better for dedicated time because it ties everything in together, to help you retain some of the minute concepts that you otherwise wouldn't have remembered or understood.

Honestly I can't see myself using RR path for my class because it's just so damn huge, it would take me forever to go through. a 10 pg pathoma chapter is like 1.5 hours of video at 2x speed so a 30 pg goljan video? long time for the audio. of course it's more all encompassing but that's not really what I need now for my path class.

 

[RJGOP]

I'm pretty sure I said if I get 270+ I will tattoo it on my body. I stand by this commitment.

If you do that well on the boards you'll realize by then that you could get hepatitis (among many other things) from a dirty needle and decide otherwise. 😛

 

[NeuroLAX]

I don't understand that really. Maybe one pass in the dedicated time, I guess. It seems like pathoma is the high yield path stuff that you should have memorized long before it's ever time to take step 1. I feel like RR path would be better for dedicated time because it ties everything in together, to help you retain some of the minute concepts that you otherwise wouldn't have remembered or understood.

Honestly I can't see myself using RR path for my class because it's just so damn huge, it would take me forever to go through. a 10 pg pathoma chapter is like 1.5 hours of video at 2x speed so a 30 pg goljan video? long time for the audio. of course it's more all encompassing but that's not really what I need now for my path class.

Some chapters are a faster read than others, but the entire thing is definitely a commitment. I dabbled in RR path during systems blocks but I always found myself getting better use of my time with Pathoma, sometimes even over my course lectures.

 

[cbrons]

I'm going to use both. I assume pathoma is easier to learn path from since it's much more concise and not as tied into the other subjects. After I get my path solid, I plan to use RR and goljan audio

Pathoma is the best thing to watch when starting a new subject bc it gives you big picture. Def something to watch before you watch the terribad lectures done by ur own professors and before reading the textbook. For pathology class itself though i just think doing pathoma, glossing over garbo class notes, discussing with study group, reread pathoma, then doing a bazillion prac questions from BRS and Utah webpath and other places is the way to go.


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[DermViser]

Pathoma is the best thing to watch when starting a new subject bc it gives you big picture. Def something to watch before you watch the terribad lectures done by ur own professors and before reading the textbook. For pathology class itself though i just think doing pathoma, glossing over garbo class notes, discussing with study group, reread pathoma, then doing a bazillion prac questions from BRS and Utah webpath and other places is the way to go.


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Yes, WebPath is an excellent long time resource for Step 1: http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/webpath.html

 

[PL198]

If you do that well on the boards you'll realize by then that you could get hepatitis (among many other things) from a dirty needle and decide otherwise. 😛

I'm cool with a 270 and hepatitis

 

[RJGOP]

I'm cool with a 270 and hepatitis

How about 270 and AIDS?

 

[PL198]

How about 270 and AIDS?

debatable, at 290 that option becomes valid for discussion IMO

 

[RJGOP]

debatable, at 290 that option becomes valid for discussion IMO

Bro, trust me, you neither want a 290 step 1 or AIDS and/or Hep. With a step 1 that high residency programs wont even want you. They'll think you're the rainman autistic savant who has a photographic memory but lacks basic social skills. Unless you like pathology. AIDS is self explanatory.

 

[PL198]

Bro, trust me, you neither want a 290 step 1 or AIDS or Hep. With a step 1 that high residency programs wont even want you. They'll think you're the rainman autistic savant who has a photographic memory but lacks basic social skills. Unless you like pathology. AIDS is self explanatory.

agreed on all points, was trolling

 

[RJGOP]

agreed on all points, was trolling

Lol, that's what I figured, but you never know.

 

[Smokemont]

However much sattar has made is likely not enough. Pathoma is pure gold.