How OOS friendly are the SUNYs?

[LuluLovesMe]

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I haven't been able to find stats anywhere. What percentage of the class is OOS? Which SUNY is the most OOS friendly?

 

[cactus8910]

MSAR shows the # of IS and OOS applicants who apply, interview, and matriculate. You can work out the percentages based on that. I think US News has the acceptance stats.

 

[occams_razor]

stony brook: 22% OOS
suny downstate: 20% OOS
suny upstate: 7% OOS
suny buffalo: 18% OOS

this info is from MSAR 2015 edition - I highly suggest investing in it as there's a ton of helpful info

 

[NYCdude]

Much friendlier than non-New York state schools.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

Much friendlier than non-New York state schools.

annoying, ain't it? haha

 

[NYCdude]

annoying, ain't it? haha

haha I have to admit it peeved me a little bit. Only because if I tried to apply to a state school outside of New York I'd statistically have terrible chances, but if non-New Yorkers applied to NY schools, it's way easier for them.

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

haha I have to admit it peeved me a little bit. Only because if I tried to apply to a state school outside of New York I'd statistically have terrible chances, but if non-New Yorkers applied to NY schools, it's way easier for them.

agreed. hence why despite popular belief, NY is a very rough state to gain an admission despite the large number of schools.

 

[alpinism]

stony brook: 22% OOS
suny downstate: 20% OOS
suny upstate: 7% OOS
suny buffalo: 18% OOS

this info is from MSAR 2015 edition - I highly suggest investing in it as there's a ton of helpful info

Yep.

Stony brook and Downstate accept a bunch of Californians every year.

 

[efle]

agreed. hence why despite popular belief, NY is a very rough state to gain an admission despite the large number of schools.

sounds like california! except we aren't even OOS friendly, we just have a ridiculous amount of premeds in the UC system and many private schools

 

[DoctorLacrosse]

sounds like california! except we aren't even OOS friendly, we just have a ridiculous amount of premeds in the UC system and many private schools

yep! admittedly, California is even worse. I feel bad for you guys haha

 

[Serous Demilune]

Every SUNY interview I went on was about half Californian. And I could always tell who was before they even opened their mouths. Not a fan.

 

[efle]

Every SUNY interview I went on was about half Californian. And I could always tell who was before they even opened their mouths. Not a fan.

Yeah, it's hard not to get jealous of the californian students for being the smartest and sexiest amirite

 

[Serous Demilune]

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[occams_razor]

Does anyone know why some state schools like umass don't accept anyone out of state? Most state schools seem to accept few OOS people. Then there are schools like the SUNYs (other than upstate) that accept 20+% OOS. Who decides how many OOS students a school is allowed to accept and why does it vary so much?

 

[The Helpful Aye Aye]

Does anyone know why some state schools like umass don't accept anyone out of state? Most state schools seem to accept few OOS people. Then there are schools like the SUNYs (other than upstate) that accept 20+% OOS. Who decides how many OOS students a school is allowed to accept and why does it vary so much?

...the admissions committee

 

[occams_razor]

agreed. hence why despite popular belief, NY is a very rough state to gain an admission despite the large number of schools.

this! a lot of people don't realize how tough it is for NYers. not as bad as cali, but maybe the 2nd worst state.

Stony brook – interviews 19% of IS applicants, 4% of IS applicants matriculate
SUNY Buffalo - interviews 20% of IS applicants, 6% of IS applicants matriculate
SUNY upstate – interviews 29% of IS applicants, 7% of IS applicants matriculate
SUNY downstate – interviews 30% of IS applicants, 6% of IS applicants matriculate

 

[occams_razor]

...the admissions committee

well of course the adcom decides who to interview and accept, but are they the ones actually deciding what percentage needs to be IS vs OOS? I just looked up Umass and the reason they will only interview and accept MA residents is because the Massachusetts legislature set that residency requirement. Just curious if it's the state legislature setting the requirement for each state

 

[The Helpful Aye Aye]

well of course the adcom decides who to interview and accept, but are they the ones actually deciding what percentage needs to be IS vs OOS? I just looked up Umass and the reason they will only interview and accept MA residents is because the Massachusetts legislature set that residency requirement. Just curious if it's the state legislature setting the requirement for each state

I've gone to information sessions for some SUNY's and talked to admissions Deans- if there is some "quota" then the percentage they would accept on their own doesn't seem to put them in any danger of bottoming out. At Downstate the Dean said that they advocate harder for in-state residents, but the influx of qualified applicants from CA provides a large pool of students as well (so statistically the would be highly represented). The IS *matriculated* for SUNY schools is also skewed a bit because of B.A./M.D. students who are guaranteed seats meaning that regular applicants are competing for fewer seats than advertised.

That said, there's no point in obsessing over statistics or who decides what. Situations where established schools fail to meet bare minimum requirements (*coughRosalindFranklingcough*) are rare, so whatever happens beyond that is 100% school dependent. Trends can change from year to year on a whim and unless you sit on that committee you're extrapolating from statistics from a couple of years before you apply.

 

[Plue00]

New Yorkers complaining about how their state schools take a lot of OOS...

Virginian here, and our med schools take ~45-50% OOS... 22% at Stony Brook is looking amazing to me. Also, 2 of our 3 schools have BS/MD, so regular VA applicants are competing for even less spots :/

At the end of the day, all I can really say is thank god I'm not a Californian or one of those unfortunate states with no instate med schools.