How to read 4th year clerkship schedules

[Coltuna]

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What is the difference between "Sub-I" and "Elective" during 4th year? Is Sub-I an away audition rotation whereas elective is at your home site?

 

[HomeSkool]

No. A subinternship (also called an acting internship at some schools) involves more responsibility and higher expectations than a regular elective. Essentially, you're expected to function at the level of a standard MS-4 on a regular rotation, but at the level of someone who's almost ready to be an intern on a sub-i.

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[Coltuna]

No. A subinternship (also called an acting internship at some schools) involves more responsibility and higher expectations than a regular elective. Essentially, you're expected to function at the level of a standard MS-4 on a regular rotation, but at the level of someone who's almost ready to be an intern on a sub-i.

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So for ER, are sub-I rotations where you'd obtain SLOE's whereas electives are more learning opportunities?

 

[HomeSkool]

They're both learning opportunities, but sub-i's are often a better place to get LORs because you take them later in the year, function at a higher level, and are more likely to impress your faculty. (I'm not sure if SLOEs are different. Perhaps someone else could enlighten us.) That said, you can get an LOR from any attending you feel would offer a strong recommendation for your residency application. Surgery was my second MS-3 rotation, and I made a very favorable impression on my attending, who was associate department chair at a very famous and prestigious medical center. He wrote a strong LOR for me based on my performance as an MS-3, and it helped me land the training spot I wanted.

As an aside, you're expected to complete at least one sub-i in your desired specialty.

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[Coltuna]

They're both learning opportunities, but sub-i's are often a better place to get LORs because you take them later in the year, function at a higher level, and are more likely to impress your faculty. (I'm not sure if SLOEs are different. Perhaps someone else could enlighten us.) That said, you can get an LOR from any attending you feel would offer a strong recommendation for your residency application. Surgery was my second MS-3 rotation, and I made a very favorable impression on my attending, who was associate department chair at a very famous and prestigious medical center. He wrote a strong LOR for me based on my performance as an MS-3, and it helped me land the training spot I wanted.

As an aside, you're expected to compete at least one sub-i in your desired specialty.

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SLOE's are just basically standardized LOR's I'm pretty sure, but I could be completely wrong. So I guess that sub I's for auditon rotations would probably be a good idea so programs can see how you'd function as a part of the team?

 

[HomeSkool]

SLOE's are just basically standardized LOR's I'm pretty sure, but I could be completely wrong. So I guess that sub I's for auditon rotations would probably be a good idea so programs can see how you'd function as a part of the team?

Yep.

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[Coltuna]

Yep.

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