How to Shop Around and Save on Your Mortgage

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Hi Everyone... since there are a lot of new residents that will be first time home buyers on this site, I wanted to post some information that could prove to be very useful. If this goes over well, I will put together a "how-to" specifically for new residents and the first-time home buyer experience. Anyway, let's get to the point:

First: Make sure you are working with an experienced, professional loan officer. The largest financial transaction of your life is far too important to place into the hands of someone who is not capable of advising you properly and troubleshooting the issues that may arise along the way. But how can you tell?

Here are FOUR SIMPLE QUESTIONS YOUR LENDER ABSOLUTELY MUST BE ABLE TO ANSWER CORRECTLY. IF THEY DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS…RUN…DON'T WALK… RUN…TO A LENDER THAT DOES!

1) What are mortgage interest rates based on? (The only correct answer is Mortgage Backed Securities or Mortgage Bonds, NOT the 10-year Treasury Note. While the 10-year Treasury Note sometimes trends in the same direction as Mortgage Bonds, it is not unusual to see them move in completely opposite directions. DO NOT work with a lender who has their eyes on the wrong indicators.)

2) What is the next Economic Report or event that could cause interest rate movement? (A professional lender will have this at their fingertips.)

3) When Bernanke and the Fed "change rates", what does this mean… and what impact does this have on mortgage interest rates? (The answer may surprise you. When the Fed makes a move, they can change a rate called the "Fed Funds Rate" or "Discount Rate". These are both very short- term rates that impact credit cards, Home Equity credit lines, auto loans and the like. On the day of the Fed move, Mortgage rates most often will actually move in the opposite direction as the Fed change. This is due to the dynamics within the financial markets in response to inflation. For more information and explanation, just give us a call).

4) Do you have access to live, real time, mortgage bond quotes? (If a lender cannot explain how Mortgage Bonds and interest rates are moving in real time and warn you in advance of a costly intra-day price change, you are talking with someone who is still reading yesterday's newspaper, and probably not a professional with whom to entrust your home mortgage financing. Would you work with a stockbroker who is only able to grab yesterday's paper to tell you how a stock traded yesterday, but had no idea what the movement looks like at the present time and what market conditions could cause changes in the near future? No way!)

Be smart... Ask questions… Get answers!

More than likely, this is one of the largest and most important financial transactions you will ever make. You might do this only four or five times in your entire life… but a qualified, professional lender does this every single day. It's your home and your future, so make absolutely sure you are putting them in the right hands.

Feel free to ask any questions here in this thread and I'll do my best to answer them.
 
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Here are FOUR SIMPLE QUESTIONS YOUR LENDER ABSOLUTELY MUST BE ABLE TO ANSWER CORRECTLY. IF THEY DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWERS…RUN…DON’T WALK… RUN…TO A LENDER THAT DOES!

Here are the four questions I recommend you ask a prospective lender or mortgage broker:

1) May I have a few references with regard to the service you provided sometime in the last 3 months?

2) What fees will I pay outside of "points?" (they should be able to provide exact dollar amounts)

3) When will you sell my mortgage to someone else?

4) Who will be servicing my mortgage?

Also, I recommend you spend at least an hour on this site:

mortgageprofessor.com

Keep in mind this thread is a soft-sell advertisement by a lender ("Just call us with questions")

Remember with mortgages, like with investing, you get what you DON'T pay for. Typical mortgages (20% down 30 year fixed, 15 year fixed, 5/1 ARMs etc) are very competitive commodities and are generally priced pretty darn closely to each other. The market gets confusing because the lenders vary the points, fees, and rates so it is hard to compare things directly, and prices (points, rates, and sometimes even fees) change once or twice a day. What you are looking for is transparency and good service. They can give you any rate you want, if you're willing to pay more in fees and points.

Bear in mind that "doctor's loans" are like "doctor's investments." What makes you think you're so special that the financial services industry is willing to cut you a break? A doctor's loan usually isn't too bad when compared to other 0% down loans, but pales in comparison to a standard, traditional mortgage.
 
I totally agree with everything you just posted, you should definitely ask those questions as well. Very good advice.

The only thing I would beg to differ on is this -
"What makes you think you're so special that the financial services industry is willing to cut you a break?

The reason some lenders, say Bank of America, offer doctor loans is because they want to win the doctor's business down the road.

A doctor's loan usually isn't too bad when compared to other 0% down loans, but pales in comparison to a standard, traditional mortgage.A doctor's loan usually isn't too bad when compared to other 0% down loans, but pales in comparison to a standard, traditional mortgage."

Sure, 9 out of 10 times, a 20% down, 30 yr fixed loan will have a SLIGHTLY better interest rate than the best doctor loans, but in all reality, a GOOD physician loan is meant for people who don't have that 20% to put down on a home. Which, I would think would be a good majority of folks, especially new residents.

All in all though, when shopping for a mortgage - you need to look around, educate yourself and THEN, make a decision.
 
Having just secured a mortgage loan (pending completion of underwriting) its been overall a good experience. I found 4 lenders who gave me good faith estimates and I kept telling each what the other was offering and they were fighting with each other to keep lowering fees and the interest rate (without me having to buy it down). I was able to get the lender to pay for my appraisal, cut out all "commitment fees" etc. and lock me in at a very good rate without an origination fee just to match the other lenders. I did feel bad having to tell the loan officers that I ended up not using because they had spent so much time working on it for me - but I guess that is what they are used to in this industry.

I don't really see why it matters if somebody else buys my loan or services it. The terms and the payment will never change. I have direct withdrawl from my checking for the monthly payment. I have never had to contact the bank.
 
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Why do you really care what the answers to these two questions are?

I personally don't think these are huge issues - but - many times if a mortgage is through a smaller broker/lender/bank, the loan might get sold a few times. It's just a hassle at best, at worse you could end up with a company that has horrible customer service. Most people are used to this though, because as I'm sure you know, they do it with credit cards all the time!

But, a lot of the bigger banks won't ever sell your loans...

All good questions... keep em coming!
 
what are some good websites for shopping for mortgages? ie, comparing mortgage rates, etc.
 
As I shop around for the best lender...I feel more like I am buying a used car than anything else...can't wait till I am done with this process.
 
Hey guys,

As match day is today, I wanted to bring this post back up for all the new residents that will be buying homes in their new cities. Hope the info helps.

Congratulations! 👍
 
If any of you have had success with a doctor's loan this year (since those 267 loan laws changed 2years ago) I'd be really grateful to hear your story and hear who your mortgage contacts are. I am looking for a mortgage serving Virginia.

Please PM me if you can refer any loan officers who are familiar with the physician's loan.
 
how about not getting a mortgage and just buying a house that you can afford. think about how much you could/would actually save. just a thought...
 
how about not getting a mortgage and just buying a house that you can afford. think about how much you could/would actually save. just a thought...

While one may wish to opt for an all-cash deal to allow for greater bargaining ability during price negotiations, a low mortgage rate is a good inflation hedge and the money you don't have tied up in your house can be used for other things. A reasonable amount of leverage can be a useful financial tool.
 
While one may wish to opt for an all-cash deal to allow for greater bargaining ability during price negotiations, a low mortgage rate is a good inflation hedge and the money you don't have tied up in your house can be used for other things. A reasonable amount of leverage can be a useful financial tool.

you have some good points. you're assuming that your salary will keep track with inflation but that may not be the case. If you pay full cash you also don't have to fork over origination/closing fees and you also are free to choose whether or not to pay for insurance. the only thing you are obligated to pay is property taxes. There must also be a major psychological advantage to actually owning your home (rather than having the bank own it) and having the freedom to spend your money how you see fit. just my opinion
 
RE: Bowzer.. it is a bit more complicated than that.
 
Some people advocate paying cash for a home, but most do not. If you've got hundreds of thousands, sure, it may be an option. But when you think that real estate appreciates on average less than the S&P500, many people think it's better to finance and invest in the market.

It's all about personal choice. And of course the fact that most people don't have enough money to pay cash for a home.

In my opinion, financing a car, vacation, consumer goods or anything similar is a bad move. However, financing a home or education make sense.
 
I read a statistic a few years ago. Over 90% of the homes that sell for $3 million and above are paid for with CASH. Presumably these are the folks who have the most borrowing power and the most to gain with the mortgage tax deduction and access to some of the best financial advice out there.

BTW, 30% of houses in this country have ZERO mortgage debt.


you won't get into a 3 mill+ house if you believe shoveling your income over to the bankers "makes sense." just my opinion
 
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