How tough is 3 sciences with labs in a semester? Comparison to Med School would be appreciated.

[FutureD0C17]

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I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

 

[AlteredScale]

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

Imagine taking your bio course and squeezing that down into a two to three week course where there's one to two exams that make your grade and if you fail it you'll remediate or worse, get dismissed. Now add classmates who work just as hard as you, did superbly on the MCAT and are all gunning to do well.

Then repeat that two to three week process for 18 weeks. Add on top of that labs, comps or oral exams for clinical things, and two to four other normal classes that span across that semester.

Without a doubt and by far, more mentally challenging because your telling your mind to memorize a much larger amount of material in a shorter amount of time.

 

[arc5005]

Imagine taking your bio course and squeezing that down into a two to three week course where there's one to two exams that make your grade and if you fail it you'll remediate or worse, get dismissed. Now add classmates who work just as hard as you, did superbly on the MCAT and are all gunning to do well.

Then repeat that two to three week process for 18 weeks. Add on top of that labs, comps or oral exams for clinical things, and two to four other normal classes that span across that semester.

Without a doubt and by far, more mentally challenging because your telling your mind to memorize a much larger amount of material in a shorter amount of time.

that's kinda scary haha.

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

Last spring I took 4 science + labs. Chem II, Orgo II, Physics II, and Physiology. It was hell, but I doubt it is anything compared to med school.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Some medical school semesters range between 20-30+ credit hours worth of coursework. Just think of that.

 

[Goro]

My favorite analogy is that it's like getting an MS every semester.

Some medical school semesters range between 20-30+ credit hours worth of coursework. Just think of that.

 

[AM508]

Roughly triple what you did this semester. Here we usually run anywhere between 8 and 12 classes simultaneously (roughly 30 credits per semester)..

EDIT: to be fair, I *thought* taking 4 lab sciences at once was pretty brutal while I was doing it. I never really realized how much free time I really had in undergrad until it was gone.

 

[FutureD0C17]

Imagine taking your bio course and squeezing that down into a two to three week course where there's one to two exams that make your grade and if you fail it you'll remediate or worse, get dismissed. Now add classmates who work just as hard as you, did superbly on the MCAT and are all gunning to do well.

Then repeat that two to three week process for 18 weeks. Add on top of that labs, comps or oral exams for clinical things, and two to four other normal classes that span across that semester.

Without a doubt and by far, more mentally challenging because your telling your mind to memorize a much larger amount of material in a shorter amount of time.

Thanks. So it sounds like you're saying undergrad is a relative joke, which isn’t surprising. The problem is I don't think I could've dealt with much more while maintaining grades and/or sanity, so does that mean MS isn't for me? Am I signing up for hell? I'm definitely not a genius, not a dummy either haha, but I need time to digest new material and that time may not even be there with everything going on(I’d still like to sleep!). Just concerned I guess, IDK if I can hack it and want to avoid voluntarily getting myself in a situation that I can’t handle.

How many hours a week do you put into those 2-3 week assaults? Or maybe overall, in general, compared to undergrad is a better question. That condensed block sounds more consuming than a typical summer course and you're saying 4 more classes are being tacked on top of that? Pretty sick. Are those other 4 relatively easy? Can you sorta coast and keep them on the back burner while you deal with the condensed classes head on?

One common theme I see on SDN is "learn how to study", which I've read so much that it began to get annoying, but I think developing a failsafe plan is crucial. Looking back on this past semester, it was the first time I was really tested and it probably could’ve been much smoother if I didn’t procrastinate or get distracted as easily. Need to work on that for sure.

 

[WedgeDawg]

My easiest med school weeks are about as hard as my hardest undergrad weeks were

 

[TheBoneDoctah]

Ok now do all that with your eyes closed, standing on your head, balancing a sloth on your feet while juggling an apple.

Short answer: NO COMPARE MAYN

 

[AlteredScale]

Thanks. So it sounds like you're saying undergrad is a relative joke, which isn’t surprising. The problem is I don't think I could've dealt with much more while maintaining grades and/or sanity, so does that mean MS isn't for me? Am I signing up for hell? I'm definitely not a genius, not a dummy either haha, but I need time to digest new material and that time may not even be there with everything going on(I’d still like to sleep!). Just concerned I guess, IDK if I can hack it and want to avoid voluntarily getting myself in a situation that I can’t handle.

How many hours a week do you put into those 2-3 week assaults? Or maybe overall, in general, compared to undergrad is a better question. That condensed block sounds more consuming than a typical summer course and you're saying 4 more classes are being tacked on top of that? Pretty sick. Are those other 4 relatively easy? Can you sorta coast and keep them on the back burner while you deal with the condensed classes head on?

One common theme I see on SDN is "learn how to study", which I've read so much that it began to get annoying, but I think developing a failsafe plan is crucial. Looking back on this past semester, it was the first time I was really tested and it probably could’ve been much smoother if I didn’t procrastinate or get distracted as easily. Need to work on that for sure.

Undergrad is hard without a doubt. What you were doing was comparable to the business of what med school is. We have three labs as well. Clinical Medicine, OS (magic medicine), and anatomy lab.

For the most part those 4 other classes are constantly on the go, usually they'll reqiure to in some way...find some time to study for them while you feel essentially overwhelmed with the 2-3 week courses.

You can handle med school. Don't worry. The thing though is the first week they through you in you just say "there's no way my brain is going to retain this at all" and with the peril of not passing you figure out how to get through it. Don't worry! You'll experience is soon enough and you'll pass like 99% of anyone who's accepted to med school.

Also listen to wedge dawg. His advice is FIRE.

 

[deleted610572]

I took 4 science classes all with labs my last 3 semesters of undergrad while also working 30-35 hrs per week and that was still nothing compared to medschool.

After saying that you will be fine! Many have gotten through it before you and many will after you.

It's a different learning style. As much as everyone likes to believe that they know how to study in undergrad, they don't. After the adjustment period of medical school coursework you will get used to it and be fine.

Short answer is yes you will study harder than ever before in medical school but you will still sleep and find time for fun. You will become an efficient studier.

 

[GatorsKW14]

You really can't compare the two. As a premed, you think you know how hard med school will be, but in the first week you will realize that you had no clue lol. The biggest differences are that you need to learn a ridiculous amount of material (including A LOT of memorization) in a small amount of time, you need to study in a way that allows you to actually retain that information rather than going through a brain-dump like many of us do in undergrad classes (if you don't retain, it will bite you in the butt big time once boards come around and when you are on rotations), and EVERY SINGLE PERSON in your class is just as smart, if not smarter than you (there will be days when you wonder why they even accepted you into med school lol). The positive side is that you are learning material that you are actually interested in, rather than little details about physics that have little to no relevance to your future career. If this is really what you want to do with your life, you will adapt and put in the work. Based on what you have said, you seem like a hard worker and that is key to succeeding in med school. Now, if you studied for 60+ hours/week and still didn't do well in your classes, that is a different story.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Medical school is harder, but in many ways it's more enjoyable than undergrad in my opinion. I don't think I could really put up with the slower pace of medical school as well as the focus on trying to turn things into a learning experience as opposed to just providing me the materials for me to actually learn it on my own time and self. ( When it comes down to it, there's a progression of handholding, college lectures are often than not very babied courses with the teacher spending time on lots of nothing to provide you an example of why or how followed by a long conversation repeating basic content from as far as the first week).

In many ways it's like comparing a graduate level curriculum in sciences to your intro psych course in first year. The speed and the amount of REAL content is extraordinarily different. But at the same time you're not being pulled around all over the place with a fishhook in your mouth and you're able to really on your own time focus on what you need. And because of that at least for me, I've really learned to appreciate content and topics that I originally wouldn't have ever ( Ex. I don't really like Renal, but because I put in the time and effort to really get an understanding of real content as opposed to fluff I began to like it more.).

 

[The_Sunny_Doc]

The positive side is that you are learning material that you are actually interested in, rather than little details about physics that have little to no relevance to your future career.

I actually found Physics to be much more interesting than much of what we learn in med school. It was all theory based, with very little memorization of details.

 

[Mad Jack]

Thanks. So it sounds like you're saying undergrad is a relative joke, which isn’t surprising. The problem is I don't think I could've dealt with much more while maintaining grades and/or sanity, so does that mean MS isn't for me? Am I signing up for hell? I'm definitely not a genius, not a dummy either haha, but I need time to digest new material and that time may not even be there with everything going on(I’d still like to sleep!). Just concerned I guess, IDK if I can hack it and want to avoid voluntarily getting myself in a situation that I can’t handle.

How many hours a week do you put into those 2-3 week assaults? Or maybe overall, in general, compared to undergrad is a better question. That condensed block sounds more consuming than a typical summer course and you're saying 4 more classes are being tacked on top of that? Pretty sick. Are those other 4 relatively easy? Can you sorta coast and keep them on the back burner while you deal with the condensed classes head on?

One common theme I see on SDN is "learn how to study", which I've read so much that it began to get annoying, but I think developing a failsafe plan is crucial. Looking back on this past semester, it was the first time I was really tested and it probably could’ve been much smoother if I didn’t procrastinate or get distracted as easily. Need to work on that for sure.

Have you taken biochemistry? Biochem is one of the worst courses you can take in undergrad. In medical school, we had to learn all of it in two and a half weeks. And then all of immunology (another wonderful course from undergrad) in another two and a half weeks. Add in a week of basic hematology. Know all of it, and be ready for a test on all of it at once that is four hours long, with no breaks whatsoever. If you fail the test (anything below a 70), you're on probation. If you fail another test, you're out. And that's just half of our courses- the other half in first year was gross anatomy, embryology, histology, and clinical skills, which you took concurrently with the systems-based courses. So not only do you have to know all of biochem, hematology basics, and immunology in a six week span, but you're learning it at the same time as the thorax (heart and lungs, lymphatics, muscles, all of it), how to do a full cardiac and respiratory history and physical, week 10-16 embryology, thorax specific embryology, and histology relevant to the block.

Then comes block week. Four hour anatomy test on Monday. Four hour clinical skills exam sometime between Tuesday and Thursday. Four hour exam on heme/immuno/biochem on Friday. Fail anything once, you remediate. Fail a second thing during the year, you're out. And while all this stuff is going on, you've still got mandatory extra visits and things you're required to do- spending a day with a pathologist, or a primary care doctor, or a dentist or whatever so you get an idea of what everyone does in and outside of the hospital. Rinse and repeat five more times, and you're done with the first year of medical school.

 

[TUVIX]

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

You said you went days without sleep. Was that a regular thing for you? One big mistake I made in undergrad was having a crazy sleeping schedule where I went to bed at different hours and woke up at different hours all of the time. I would pull all-nighters in the library before an o-chem exam etc.

In grad school I thankfully had the self awareness to realize that this was causing me a lot of problems. I am the kind of person who needs my sleep, and even if you are someone who requires less sleep you can still benefit from a regular sleep schedule. So in grad school (SMP) I decided that i would keep a consistent sleep schedule. I would not allow myself to study past 10 PM unless it was in the 3 days leading up to an exam. Even on those days I would normally stick to this rule anyway. I would be in bed by 11 and wake up at 8. This schedule fluctuated a little bit but not much. Because of this schedule I had to use the hours I was awake very well and I managed to do that. I got straight A's and felt physically pretty damn well. Now, I am sure medical school is going to be harder and require me to break from this to some extent, how much so I won't know until later this year and beyond. This was long winded but my point is to break bad habits and not bring them with you to medical school.

Other bad habits I changed: Eating poorly, not drinking enough water, not taking study breaks, not being focused and present while trying to learn.

 

[chizledfrmstone]

Med school is like taking 23-25 credits first year and 25-28 credits second year.

That seems like a lot but remember in undergrad you strive to maintain a 3.5+ GPA (preferably 3.7+). In med school you just want that 70+.

 

[arc5005]

Have you taken biochemistry? Biochem is one of the worst courses you can take in undergrad. In medical school, we had to learn all of it in two and a half weeks. And then all of immunology (another wonderful course from undergrad) in another two and a half weeks. Add in a week of basic hematology. Know all of it, and be ready for a test on all of it at once that is four hours long, with no breaks whatsoever. If you fail the test (anything below a 70), you're on probation. If you fail another test, you're out. And that's just half of our courses- the other half in first year was gross anatomy, embryology, histology, and clinical skills, which you took concurrently with the systems-based courses. So not only do you have to know all of biochem, hematology basics, and immunology in a six week span, but you're learning it at the same time as the thorax (heart and lungs, lymphatics, muscles, all of it), how to do a full cardiac and respiratory history and physical, week 10-16 embryology, thorax specific embryology, and histology relevant to the block.

Then comes block week. Four hour anatomy test on Monday. Four hour clinical skills exam sometime between Tuesday and Thursday. Four hour exam on heme/immuno/biochem on Friday. Fail anything once, you remediate. Fail a second thing during the year, you're out. And while all this stuff is going on, you've still got mandatory extra visits and things you're required to do- spending a day with a pathologist, or a primary care doctor, or a dentist or whatever so you get an idea of what everyone does in and outside of the hospital. Rinse and repeat five more times, and you're done with the first year of medical school.

okay, i'm glad biochem is one of the worst, because I'm on my last 2 weeks of biochem and I'm over it. Everything - all the enzymes, pathways, molecules have seemed to blend together. askdfahdkjakfjlaLDjalkdjlkAD

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Med school is like taking 23-25 credits first year and 25-28 credits second year.

That seems like a lot but remember in undergrad you strive to maintain a 3.5+ GPA (preferably 3.7+). In med school you just want that 70+.

You replace the fear of getting a B or C with the fear of getting a 69.9% post curve.

 

[DocWinter]

Med school is much harder, because it is much more in a quicker time. Each test every other week is about as much material as a cumulative final in say orgo our physics.
However, you become much much better at doing it. It's like a eager person with a resolution to lose weight going to the gym and feeling exhausted and beyond sore the next day, and looking at a body builder going out for a three hour workout everyday and assuming he is putting himself through torture to get to that level. It's no longer torture for the bodybuilder, it's just life.

 

[costales]

And the **** never ends. On the wards you will be pimped on a daily basis by an attending on the why and wherefores of the malady of the hour or whatever random stuff that pops up in their head, and you will be told to read, or read more - which you will do every night. (It gets worse in residency because you can't say you're a student anymore - the patient is yours.) BTW in med school you really need to know the basic science, but you also need to understand what's important and clinically relevant. The rest goes to the garbage can. People who struggle tend to get bogged down in the weeds, or get sidetracked by distractors, and forget the big picture.

 

[Mad Jack]

You replace the fear of getting a B or C with the fear of getting a 69.9% post curve.

What's a curve?

 

[The_Sunny_Doc]

Other bad habits I changed: Eating poorly, not drinking enough water, not taking study breaks, not being focused and present while trying to learn.

Your sleep schedule sounds great! I'm realizing how important it is to get 6 hours of sleep every night. It's tough though with so much material to get through, and our mandatory class attendance. It will serve you well in med school to keep some sort of sleep schedule, though!

Eating habits also become very important in med school, IMO. I make an effort to eat healthy by packing all my meals, and don't tend to struggle with my weight or getting sick, unlike many of my classmates. It makes a huge difference to invest that hour every day, or few hours on the weekends, to prep fresh and healthy food. Making chicken stock today (the apartment smells so good!) after roasting a whole chicken in the crock. It's so lovely to look forward to delicious meals! Sometimes it's the only bright spot during stressful days.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

What's a curve?

The reason about ~10% of our class has not failed out. KCU's tests are stupid hard.

 

[Mad Jack]

The reason about ~10% of our class has not failed out. KCU's tests are stupid hard.

I'm kidding anyway- we've had to curve I believe three exams thusfar due to their material and difficulty being drastically different than what was expected.

 

[oOKawaiiOo]

..........I..........wait....... hold on.......... Can I still turn down my acceptance? What have I done with my life?!

 

[AM508]

..........I..........wait....... hold on.......... Can I still turn down my acceptance? What have I done with my life?!
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You'll survive.

 

[deleted610572]

You'll survive.

Barely....

 

[oOKawaiiOo]

You'll survive.

Well I'm not smart at all -- something I remind myself everyday Like I have a terrible habit of forgetting people names...... Even called the doctor by the wrong name......the doctor Ive worked for ....for 6 months! I even called my gf my EX gf name!

but hey...... im human. 🙄

 

[TUVIX]

Well I'm not smart at all -- something I remind myself everyday Like I have a terrible habit of forgetting people names...... Even called the doctor by the wrong name......the doctor Ive worked for ....for 6 months! I even called my gf my EX gf name!

but hey...... im human. 🙄

Just don't start a fight with anyone.

 

[just_SAIYAN]

Just don't start a fight with anyone.

LOLzzzz

 

[NontradCA]

I think the people here are grossly exaggerating. When you're doing undergrad physics, bio, and orgo the information is extremely abstract, and the concepts are difficult to conceptualize. The basics of them require a lot of time investment. Think about it this way: this question has been asked and answered many times, yet med students still pass and have lives. FWIW I've taken 27 units in a semester of undergrad and it was more demanding than the preclinical years of med school.

Med school isn't hard. The truth is that med students and doctors have huge egos, of which can be easily bruised if they come to realization that their education is not that special or daunting as they make it out to be.

 

[Azete]

I think the people here are grossly exaggerating. When you're doing undergrad physics, bio, and orgo the information is extremely abstract, and the concepts are difficult to conceptualize. The basics of them require a lot of time investment. Think about it this way: this question has been asked and answered many times, yet med students still pass and have lives. FWIW I've taken 27 units in a semester of undergrad and it was more demanding than the preclinical years of med school.

Med school isn't hard. The truth is that med students and doctors have huge egos, of which can be easily bruised if they come to realization that their education is not that special or daunting as they make it out to be.

This.

Poll a random sample of medical students and the majority will only put in 45-50 hours per week including class time -- no more than a typical full-time job. It feels like more because it's mentally exhausting and most people don't realize how little time they actually spent working in undergrad.

Those that study more usually are gunning for a top class ranking (getting 95+ on every exam is much harder than just aiming for a B), don't actively study when they're studying (a lot of facebook/phone time), or never developed time management skills.

 

[tankaer]

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

I haven't started med school yet but I did that exact combination of classes plus 2 more non-lab sciences in the same semester while taking an MCAT prep course on the weekends and tutoring gen chem students a few hours a week.

It was a rough semester but it was doable and I think it helped my application. Time management and effective studying are key. Good luck to you.

 

[68PGunner]

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

Your schedule is cake. The only real class time that you have to do is 3-4 hrs lab three times a week. Otherwise, your 3 50 mins lecture four times a day is just more of a formality. When I was in your shoes, I probably spend 15-20 hrs a wk to get A's.

 

[KP2AZ]

looking at the title--> med school is tougher. You haven't done anything like med school yet. but don't worry, everyone is in the same boat! you will be able to do more than you think you can!

 

[darknecrosforte]

In serious martial arts training, a common concept seen is something that can accurately be nicknamed "Concentration of death". The effect of being on the brink of death allows you to tap into unconscious abilities and enhanced physical performance. Martial artists will perform their drilled techniques faster and stronger and with relaxed muscles rather than tense ones. What it really means is an active amygdala and hormones probably.

The initial shock in med school is probably necessary to activate the physiology to cram this information in the brain.

So just do what you can now. Accept the darkness when it comes.

 

[KP2AZ]

In serious martial arts training, a common concept seen is something that can accurately be nicknamed "Concentration of death". The effect of being on the brink of death allows you to tap into unconscious abilities and enhanced physical performance. Martial artists will perform their drilled techniques faster and stronger and with relaxed muscles rather than tense ones. What it really means is an active amygdala and hormones probably.

The initial shock in med school is probably necessary to activate the physiology to cram this information in the brain.

So just do what you can now. Accept the darkness when it comes.

Deep, very deep. But probably true.

 

[Launcelot]

The biggest difference is the amount of time you end up spending because of the sheer volume of information you'll have to learn. I read through a 40 slide powerpoint in about an hour (that's speed reading and skipping redundant information [or rereading to make sure it's redundant]). Now we end up getting at least 4 of these powerpoints every school day. So that's at least 4-5 hours a day after school just for slides if you're on top of it (and that's just reading it once through)... And in addition to that, we'll get a bunch of histology slides, anatomy lab structures, and OMM concepts/techniques to study for.

All I can really recommend is a very good study chair, table, and lamp for your place or to call dibs on a really good spot on campus. After all, you'll be spending at least 2 solid years here sitting and reading...

 

[Labrat07]

I don't know about you guys but I'm scared 🙂.

 

[yanks26dmb]

I just got done half killing myself with bio/ochem/physics with labs, and TBH, it took everything I had to power through at the end. Definitely felt the stress, got burnt out, and went days without sleep during finals...no fun at all! It's over though and I survived, however, I don't know that I want to be subjected to this kind of workload/stress for years to come. It may have been a wake up call. I mean, some weeks I was locked in my office for 60+ hrs. Is that normal?

I'm wondering how you guys felt going through similar class loads, and if possible, I would love to hear comparisons to med school.

As an M1, there is no comparison. bio/ochem/physics + labs is no match for medical school coursework. This block (5 weeks) our exam will cover 60+ hours of classes (doesn't include lab time), 1,500+ slides of material (all of which are fair game), and cardiac, renal, pulmonary, and neck anatomy (this material is in addition to the 1,500 slides).

Oh, and this isn't counting doctoring/OMM class/lab time and/or studying that goes into those practicals/theory exams.

So yeah, there's no comparison.

Counting time on campus, I put in 80 hours a week, every single week. 60 would be considered light...

 

[Launcelot]

I don't know about you guys but I'm scared 🙂.

I will say some things that are easier in my opinion in medical school than in UG. You don't have to be as creative with medical school. No designing or planning your major/study like you do in UG. There's usually a learning specialist at your COM with a pre-made study schedule and some outlines on study techniques, complete with available tutors.

No choosing classes (they do it for you), no having to pick some extraneous topic to write about (because there's no writing at my COM other than your name on a sign-in sheet), close to no PowerPoint presentations required, and heck, some COMs won't even require you to choose what you wear (they'll choose it for you in your student handbook). No math (except for knowing specific things cardio or electrophysiology, which is more conceptual than plug and chug), no essay questions (everything's multiple choice), and everything lecture-wise is usually recorded. Professors are usually open-door with students, and upperclassmen are readily available to answer your questions with experience. Theoretically, you can go into medical school as a OMM robot whose only other ability is to work a left click button on a mouse and at least make it up to COMLEX 1.

After all this, success should be (at least conceptually) straight forward. All that's left out of this equation is you and your time.

 

[dushash]

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