How would you handle an arrogant friend going to SGU for med school

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I have this friend who is real arrogant. He is going to SGU this fall and is now bragging about it to everyone. Now he tells ppl "My med school makes me better than you. What are you going to do nursing?" It gets annoying bc ppl tell him "dude, you're going to the caribbean. you can't brag about anything" yet he still remains full of himself.

How would you handle this? I'm not someone who would start hating on him to his face. I don't see the point in trying to make someone depressed. I do want him to stop being so arrogant, though. I'm not really sure how to handle this since when I and others ignore him he still remains arrogant and starts talking ****.

And no, this is not a trolling post. I am completely serious. I am applying to US MD now but haven't gotten in yet, so I can't respond with "I start in the US next fall." That will definitely silence him if I get in bc my achievements will speak for themselves without me even having to say anything. Until then tho, how would you handle this?

Btw, personal attacks don't seem to phase him, either. When ppl do say like "you're going to the carribbean," these ppl aren't in med school period so the comment doesn't hold much weight against him. I try to calm him down by saying "you have to be humble as a doctor." It works sometimes but he remains arrogant and just talks **** the next day. I want him to stop all together...arrogance is sooo annoying to deal with. Btw, I'm his friend so I don't want to just stop hanging out with him. I just want him to be humbled a bit haha
 
rocketbooster said:
I have this friend who is real arrogant. He is going to SGU this fall and is now bragging about it to everyone. Now he tells ppl "My med school makes me better than you. What are you going to do nursing?" It gets annoying bc ppl tell him "dude, you're going to the caribbean. you can't brag about anything" yet he still remains full of himself.

How would you handle this? I'm not someone who would start hating on him to his face. I don't see the point in trying to make someone depressed. I do want him to stop being so arrogant, though. I'm not really sure how it handle this since when I and others ignore him he still remains arrogant and starts talking ****.

And no, this is not a trolling post. I am completely serious. I am applying to US MD now but haven't gotten in yet, so I can't respond with "I start in the US next fall." That will definitely silence him if I get in bc my achievements will speak for themselves without me even having to say anything. Until then tho, how would you handle this?
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Stop whining... it is what it is. Although the Caribbean is a last resort for a lot of people it still trumps nursing x23409234. And in the end if all goes well he'll be a doctor just like you and I. I too hate people that brag, but sometimes you just have to let it go. It will catch up to him eventually...when he sees no one wants to hang with me. Trust me I have experience with people like this.
 
what he's doing is douche-move. hes a douche-mover.


how do u consider this guy a friend?
 
Man up and tell the dude to stick it. Learn to stand up for yourself. He is clearly being a jerk - say something.

It's time to learn to be an adult and not a passive being.
 
bioman2006 said:
Ignore him. Let him wallow in his self-righteousness and conceit over getting into a Caribbean medical school. I can assure you, everyone else is laughing at this douchebag.

See how much he brags if he fails out, or can't pass the USMLE and gets kicked out, or can't land a family practice residency on his third attempt at matching.
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Yeah, he tells everyone "i'm jus gonna comeback to the US and take the same boards then do residency here." I don't think it's as easy as that...how do you know you'll do well on the boards? idk....then there's the ill bias towards IMGs you will have to overcome when getting residency

After he tried with the low blow of "what are you going to do, nursing?" I responded with a txt of "I won't hate on you because you know I can make you look real stupid and I know you don't want to go there. You're going to a foreign school." He stopped bragging as much after that, but I don't know if it was the statement or if he just realized he was a being a douche. I want something to show him the reality ASAP, but I don't think he'll see that for another few years.

Btw, to the other person about him becoming a doctor just like me and you. I agree...I told him "we will all be doctors. will be awesome." It's just annoying that he's bragging on false pretenses...he just says "I would never go to med school in the US. All the US med students are full of themselves and think they're better than everyone." How ironic....
 
How good of friends are you guys?
 
lol...sounds like high school drama. You guys are texting each other about this? Who cares about what other people are doing/thinking; you are your own person now. Man, screw people that try to intimidate you.
 
whip out your wang and show him whose got the bigger one
 
this is too funny.. how old r u? i think you should settle it on msn once and for all :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Just tell your friend to come to SDN. We'll put him in place.
 
LOL hahaahaha. no...he gets real drunk and then starts to drunk rage on everyone. the thing is since he brings this stuff up when he's drunk, you know it's what he actually believes in his mind.

it's funny bc...i'm the 22 year old and he's the 25 year old. he'll just start txting our friends and start fights. it doesn't really make sense. he always feels bad the next day when he's sober and apologizes. if he something/someone could convince him of the truth, then he would no longer drunk rage on this. he really does think he's better than everyone hahaha.

we call him the manchild. I just want a way to humble him asap. the sooner he realizes he's not the ****, the sooner he'll stop drunk raging.
 
honestly sometimes i feel like people deserve the kind of friends they have



edit: okay it sounds a little different now that you mention it's when he is drunk. but still doesn't explain keeping him as a friend with all of this headache. i hate aggressive drunks.
 
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDm6N44Nafc[/YOUTUBE]

lol@" wanna get in the 99 percantile on the USMLE. Go ahead and do it, and this is your opporunity."

The campus looks beautiful, though. I'm pretty sure your friend will have an awesome time there.
 
Chemdude said:
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDm6N44Nafc[/YOUTUBE]

lol@" wanna get in the 99 percantile on the USMLE. Go ahead and do it, and this is your opporunity."

The campus looks beautiful, though. I'm pretty sure your friend will have an awesome time there.
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Girl at 1:03 makes me want to go there.
 
Chemdude said:
[YOUTUBE]

lol@" wanna get in the 99 percantile on the USMLE. Go ahead and do it, and this is your opporunity."

The campus looks beautiful, though. I'm pretty sure your friend will have an awesome time there.
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i wonder when IMG's will figure out the two digit USMLE score is not a percentile
 
my mcat (30) is only 2 pts higher than his (28) so i can't really brag using that. most premeds recognize gpa as legit if there is a big enough difference between the 2 gpas. he has a 3.3 and I have a 3.7, so I can just own him with that. I'm not interested in using petty tactics like that, though, like I said. I want something to just make him realize SGU is not as tight as he thinks.

oh, but he thinks gpa is real tight also. he always tells ppl "I have a 3.3 with a cell bio major. That is not an easy major. Not many ppl have it. Med schools know that and respect it." *siiiighh* so delusional. my school only had straight biology majors, not bio specialties, so I can't comment on bio vs cell bio majors. I'm sure he would say straight bio is worthless like most premeds try to claim haha. personally, i like the extra classes on ecology, plants, evolution, etc. I know they don't relate to med school but they interested me...I also took the other cell classes tho like advanced cell, micro, genetics, anatomy, physiology, etc. anyways, that's getting offtopic
 
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rocketbooster said:
my mcats only 2 pts higher than his so i can't really brag using that. most premeds recognize gpa as legit if there is a big enough difference between the 2 gpas. he has a 3.3 and I have a 3.7, so I can just own him with that. I'm not interested in using petty tactics like that, though, like I said. I want something to just make him realize SGU is not as tight as he thinks.

oh, but he thinks gpa is real tight also. he always tells ppl "I have a 3.3 with a cell bio major. That is not an easy major. Not many ppl have it. Med schools know that and respect it." *siiiighh* so delusional
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he'll learn eventually.. either put up with it or put him in his place. simple as that.
 
dude u r too nice for ur own good.. seriously.. u r not his senorita. u need to put him in his place or stop talkin about it. people will not be so forgiving to you as you r forgiving to them.
 
Your friend is "that guy", he needs validation from the rest of you for his accomplishments and he can only get it by deprecating yours.

Unfortunately, by coming onto an anonymous internet forum and touting your academic plumage in an attempt to show us what an unqualified tool he is, you're getting pretty close to being "that guy" too.

But don't worry. We all still think you're cool, no matter what he says.
 
Mister J said:
Your friend is "that guy", he needs validation from the rest of you for his accomplishments and he can only get it by deprecating yours.

Unfortunately, by coming onto an anonymous internet forum and touting your academic plumage in an attempt to show us what an unqualified tool he is, you're getting pretty close to being "that guy" too.

But don't worry. We all still think you're cool, no matter what he says.
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hehehe, yeah. I know it may look like that. I was jus hoping someone would have some advice how to silence him in a nice way on my part. however, looks like there aren't any nice ways to handle it, which is probably why I couldn't come up with any alternatives myself other than being mean and putting him in his place.

personally, I don't like to respond when ppl act stupid because giving them attention gives them the reaction they are looking for. even if you try to put them down, it really just feeds them because they aren't going to take anything you say seriously.

ignoring and acting like you don't care usually seems to be the best thing. it definitely works with picking up girls haha
 
Key his car and write Prick down the side.. Works like a charm
 
the youtube video makes me want to go to SGU LOL!
 
He needs to join sdn. No need to inform him of all the negatives of Caribbean like the high attrition rate and difficulty of gaining US residency. Just let him figure that on his own, the hard way. I hear that if you don't stand a good shot of passing the USMLE, caribbean schools won't let you take it. OP, I'd just suggest kick back, grab a beer, and see where your friend is in a few years. He doesn't sound very motivated.
 
Ask him what residency he'll try to match into. With his arrogance, he'll probably say something like Neuro/Plastic Surgery. Then laugh in his face four years later when he can only get into Family Practice.

I suggest being sarcastically enthusiastic about his acceptance to SGU. Say it's the best university and that you'd go there if your stats were as good as his. That should stroke his ego enough and he'll have nothing to say.
 
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doxycycline said:
Caribbean is a last resort for a lot of people it still trumps nursing x23409234.
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You know....not every nurse is a failed med student wannabe. Very tool-ish to slam nursing as a way to build up some radom premed's ego. :annoyed:
 
Your friend will have to fight an uphill battle for residency. It's tough if you're coming from a Caribbean school.
 
mmmcdowe said:
I wonder who the Columbia of the carib is?
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pitt1166 said:
Girl at 1:03 makes me want to go there.
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major hottie.

rocketbooster said:
my mcat (30) is only 2 pts higher than his (28) so i can't really brag using that. most premeds recognize gpa as legit if there is a big enough difference between the 2 gpas. he has a 3.3 and I have a 3.7, so I can just own him with that. I'm not interested in using petty tactics like that, though, like I said. I want something to just make him realize SGU is not as tight as he thinks.

oh, but he thinks gpa is real tight also. he always tells ppl "I have a 3.3 with a cell bio major. That is not an easy major. Not many ppl have it. Med schools know that and respect it." *siiiighh* so delusional. my school only had straight biology majors, not bio specialties, so I can't comment on bio vs cell bio majors. I'm sure he would say straight bio is worthless like most premeds try to claim haha. personally, i like the extra classes on ecology, plants, evolution, etc. I know they don't relate to med school but they interested me...I also took the other cell classes tho like advanced cell, micro, genetics, anatomy, physiology, etc. anyways, that's getting offtopic
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HA! Major pre-med pwnage!
 
The video looked pretty cool.. But I think Im going to stick with a US med school.. But everybody else should give up and apply in the Carib... PLEASE haha
 
I know I might be in the minority here, but wtf is wrong with nursing? I am premed myself, but so what if someone else is in nursing? The simple fact is that MDs couldn't do their job without the support offered by the nursing staff. I thought about nursing myself for a while. Then I realized I am just not nice enough to do it, plus I am way to big of a control freak 🙂
 
teddy bear doc said:
I know I might be in the minority here, but wtf is wrong with nursing? I am premed myself, but so what if someone else is in nursing? The simple fact is that MDs couldn't do their job without the support offered by the nursing staff. I thought about nursing myself for a while. Then I realized I am just not nice enough to do it, plus I am way to big of a control freak 🙂
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Nurses can get paid six figures and they have the advantage of not having to be on call. It's a good lifestyle and I know a girl who was accepted to an Ivy League school as an undergrad and who later chose this route.
 
TopSecret said:
Nurses can get paid six figures and they have the advantage of not having to be on call. It's a good lifestyle and I know a girl who was accepted to an Ivy League school as an undergrad and who later chose this route.
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haha what?!
 
bleargh said:
haha what?!
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Compared to physicians, nurses have a better lifestyle, especially if they work at a doctor's office. It's basically 9-5 with all weekends off, no overnight calls or admissions to the hospitals on holidays. They also do not carry a tremendous debt burden and do not have to spend a lot of their youth in training.
 
I guess I just don't understand why so many people bag on nurses all the time. It's like looking down on a plumber for having that occupation, yet everyone is all happy to see the plumber when the toilet is backing up all over the floor. And I think nursing could be a good lifestyle, the same way EM is supposedly a lifestyle specialty, with shift work and all that. Like I said, it isn't for me personally, but we need nurses in the world, not just pompous premeds and MDs (myself included :laugh:)
 
TopSecret said:
Compared to physicians, nurses have a better lifestyle, especially if they work at a doctor's office. It's basically 9-5 with all weekends off, no overnight calls or admissions to the hospitals on holidays. They also do not carry a tremendous debt burden and do not have to spend a lot of their youth in training.
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big if, and much less pay. why do you even need nurses to work offices?
 
bleargh said:
big if, and much less pay. why do you even need nurses to work offices?
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Large private practice perhaps. However, I used to go see a doc for allergies and she had a couple nurses who did most of the testing and such, so maybe its more common than we think outside of straight up family practice.
 
bleargh said:
big if, and much less pay. why do you even need nurses to work offices?
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for clinic days. on clinic days, the doctor basically does nothing. the nurses and PAs do all the work. the nurses do all the patient prep, clean-up, vitals, shots, EKGs, etc. the PAs do most of the provider work, like wellness exams, suturing, etc. the doctor comes in for the last 5 minutes, reviews what the PA did and then approves it. the doctor may have to make a few changes and then that's it. so basically, that's all the doctors do on clinic days hahaha. this is based on a FP clinic day, btw. the doctor also spends lots of time talking to me about how awesome her life is LOL. she's like "basically, this is like a lab. the PI has a bunch of ppl working for her who do most of the work and then the PI takes all the credit (in the clinic, takes all the gratitude of the patient and most of the $$) haha.

the coolest thing about what I saw is the doctor is a DO. despite what SDN tries to portray, DOs practice no differently than MDs. DOs just have it a lil harder getting residency, that's all. and yes, I know someone will say "she's in FP, that's why, she couldn't get another residency" but the thing is there are many MD FPers, as well. as some song goes (I forget the title), "think about it, for a a second."
 
OP, the friends with whom you choose to associate are a reflection of who *you* are. Maybe instead of thinking about what you can do to shut this guy up, you would gain more by thinking about why shutting him up matters so much to you.
 
rocketbooster said:
for clinic days. on clinic days, the doctor basically does nothing. the nurses and PAs do all the work. the nurses do all the patient prep, clean-up, vitals, shots, EKGs, etc. the PAs do most of the provider work, like wellness exams, suturing, etc. the doctor comes in for the last 5 minutes, reviews what the PA did and then approves it. the doctor may have to make a few changes and then that's it. so basically, that's all the doctors do on clinic days hahaha. this is based on a FP clinic day, btw. the doctor also spends lots of time talking to me about how awesome her life is LOL. she's like "basically, this is like a lab. the PI has a bunch of ppl working for her who do most of the work and then the PI takes all the credit (in the clinic, takes all the gratitude of the patient and most of the $$) haha.

the coolest thing about what I saw is the doctor is a DO. despite what SDN tries to portray, DOs practice no differently than MDs. DOs just have it a lil harder getting residency, that's all. and yes, I know someone will say "she's in FP, that's why, she couldn't get another residency" but the thing is there are many MD FPers, as well. as some song goes (I forget the title), "think about it, for a a second."
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I'll give you 100 dollars if you tell every adcom you interview with what you wrote in your first paragraph.

As far as the 2nd paragraph goes, most people on SDN are pretty on board with the idea that DO = MD, so I don't know what you've been smoking.
 
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