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[dragon72]

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I am from Houston and going to Howard in the Fall. Where are you going to stay up there? I don 't know where I am going to stay yet.

 

[Cablindian]

I just got a rejection letter from Howard, so I won't be seeing you all in the fall.. Good luck anyway 🙁

 

[dragon72]

I am going to Howard this Fall but I don' t know where to stay in D.C. I am from Houston, Texas. Anyone out there from Houston is going to Howard this fall?

 

[Crest]

Does anyone know whether first year med and dental students take classes together at Howard?

 

[grant555]

Dental students don't take classes with med students, but are taught by the same instructors as the meds when it comes to the basic sciences.

The main thing to deal with the first year is anatomy, biochem, and occlusion. There is one thing that I would do and that is start reading ahead in all three courses.

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781753090

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0683304917

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781727979

For gross, I would start on the back muscles since that is where the first year gross course begins. For biochem, I would just begin reading the second book above to make your life easier once the fall starts. I would do the same thing for the third book on occlusion.

If it hasn't already, a second year student will be assigned to help ease the transition.

As far as living, I would recommend Silver Springs, MD as a good option. Many HU dental students reside there, and are comfortable since it is relatively close to school via the metro or driving, but be advised that parking is limited around HU.

I hope this helps.

 

[hudentstu]

hey miraclegirl, Im from miami, fl. and going to Howard in august. see you there. Is anyone else from florida going to HU?

Anyone going to Howard out there?

 

[hudentstu]

Grant555, thanks for the tip. Are these the books that the D1 students will definately be using? If so, how did you find out?

Dental students don't take classes with med students, but are taught by the same instructors as the meds when it comes to the basic sciences.

The main thing to deal with the first year is anatomy, biochem, and occlusion. There is one thing that I would do and that is start reading ahead in all three courses.

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781753090

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0683304917

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781727979

For gross, I would start on the back muscles since that is where the first year gross course begins. For biochem, I would just begin reading the second book above to make your life easier once the fall starts. I would do the same thing for the third book on occlusion.

If it hasn't already, a second year student will be assigned to help ease the transition.

As far as living, I would recommend Silver Springs, MD as a good option. Many HU dental students reside there, and are comfortable since it is relatively close to school via the metro or driving, but be advised that parking is limited around HU.

I hope this helps.

 

[hudentstu]

Anyone know what the schedule looks like for this coming years D1 students?

 

[TX2thDR]

good info, any other confirmations about the first year books? from what i understand our books are actually pre-loaded onto the laptops we'll be receiving but it would be nice to preview the material before we begin..

i've already got that biochem book... i may as well start on that

 

[Crest]

any word on financial aid or when classes begin?

 

[Dr. Future]

Dental students don't take classes with med students, but are taught by the same instructors as the meds when it comes to the basic sciences.

The main thing to deal with the first year is anatomy, biochem, and occlusion. There is one thing that I would do and that is start reading ahead in all three courses.

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781753090

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0683304917

http://www.campusi.com/bookFind/asp/bookFindPriceLst.asp?prodId=0781727979

For gross, I would start on the back muscles since that is where the first year gross course begins. For biochem, I would just begin reading the second book above to make your life easier once the fall starts. I would do the same thing for the third book on occlusion.

If it hasn't already, a second year student will be assigned to help ease the transition.

As far as living, I would recommend Silver Springs, MD as a good option. Many HU dental students reside there, and are comfortable since it is relatively close to school via the metro or driving, but be advised that parking is limited around HU.

I hope this helps.

I just finished my first year at Meharry, so I can't answer any questions about Howard. I know Grant555 recommends that you start studying to get ahead, but in my opinion, your first year is extremely difficult (especially for us b/c we take our boards after our first year). You will be studying almost non-stop for the next four years of your life. ENJOY YOUR SUMMER before you start school! You will have plenty of time to study, well maybe not plenty, but you will be so tired of studying, you will have wished you had time off. So like I just said, go have fun, go on vacation, do something, just don't touch a book, b/c you will be so sick of studying very soon! Good luck all!

 

[Mr.E]

Anyone talk to admissions or the finacial aid department lately? I'm curious to know when they are supposed to send the financial aid award letter? And exactly when we get a class schedule?

 

[TX2thDR]

Anyone talk to admissions or the finacial aid department lately? I'm curious to know when they are supposed to send the financial aid award letter? And exactly when we get a class schedule?

I called again today to find out and I keep getting a message saying to call during office hours (even though I already am) and to leave a message with a number... My private loans are still awaiting approval/verification through Howard and the sooner I get these loans, the sooner I can quit my job 👍

 

[Mr.E]

I called again today to find out and I keep getting a message saying to call during office hours (even though I already am) and to leave a message with a number... My private loans are still awaiting approval/verification through Howard and the sooner I get these loans, the sooner I can quit my job 👍

If you don't mind me asking, what lender did you go thru for private loans (I'm assuming the private loans are those that go directly to you and not the school?)? I'm looking into the "tuition answer loan" from Salle Mae, hoping that I can qualify and quit my job and head up to find a place in Maryland sometime in July.

 

[TX2thDR]

If you don't mind me asking, what lender did you go thru for private loans (I'm assuming the private loans are those that go directly to you and not the school?)? I'm looking into the "tuition answer loan" from Salle Mae, hoping that I can qualify and quit my job and head up to find a place in Maryland sometime in July.

hey thats exactly what i'm trying to do. i applied through Chase and Wells Fargo but got denied because I had no cosigner. Citibank CitiAssist is what I'm currently waiting for and it has a better interest rate than the others. you can to to www.citibank.com and select student loans or simply go to www.studentloan.com

 

[miraclegirll]

I was just wondering where you guys are planning to live and what you've heard about on campus housing in regards to safety. Also, is it recommended to have a car?

 

[Mr.E]

I was just wondering where you guys are planning to live and what you've heard about on campus housing in regards to safety. Also, is it recommended to have a car?

I'm planning on looking for housing in Montgomery county. Montgomery county is safer than DC. Living near the school is going to be dangerous, but people do it. So it all depends on what your willing to put up with for the next 4 years. In montgomery places like Silver Spring, Gaithersburg, Germantown are safer communities. I've heard that several HU students live there. These places range from a 20 minute commute to upwards of 45 minutes by train or metro. Parking is hard to find near Howard, so the commute by train or metro is preferable and allows for study time.

 

[Mr.E]

hey thats exactly what i'm trying to do. i applied through Chase and Wells Fargo but got denied because I had no cosigner. Citibank CitiAssist is what I'm currently waiting for and it has a better interest rate than the others. you can to to www.citibank.com and select student loans or simply go to www.studentloan.com

Try looking into loans like the "tuition answer loan" from Salle Mae or other loans that offer upward of 30,000 to 40,000 in addition to what the school determines. These loans are not contingent on school determining a students budget, so they go directly to the borrower. You will likely still have to take out loans from other lenders, but it will supplement you income a bit more than if you rely solely on what the school says you can live on, which I think amounts to no more than 14,000 for nine months.

 

[RozhonDDS]

I'm planning on looking for housing in Montgomery county. Montgomery county is safer than DC. Living near the school is going to be dangerous, but people do it. So it all depends on what your willing to put up with for the next 4 years. In montgomery places like Silver Spring, Gaithersburg, Germantown are safer communities. I've heard that several HU students live there. These places range from a 20 minute commute to upwards of 45 minutes by train or metro. Parking is hard to find near Howard, so the commute by train or metro is preferable and allows for study time.

My brother lives in Germantown, he is a chemist at MedImmune, and has lived in large cities his whole life and usually never complained, but he said Germantown is a dump and the crime around the town is horrible, he just signed a lease closer the D.C., but its your call

 

[Mr.E]

My brother lives in Germantown, he is a chemist at MedImmune, and has lived in large cities his whole life and usually never complained, but he said Germantown is a dump and the crime around the town is horrible, he just signed a lease closer the D.C., but its your call

Thanks a bunch. This is just another reason why SDN is awesome.

 

[Crest]

Orientation begins on Aug 14. I think the class schedule should be up within the next week or so on HUCD's website.

 

[Dr IWannaBe]

Orientation begins on Aug 14. I think the class schedule should be up within the next week or so on HUCD's website.

Hi Crest,

Did you get my PM?

Dr. IWannaBe

 

[cbennett]

LOOK at there stats on predent.com for the GPA of the students that applied and who were accepted. It is MUCH lower for the ones that were accepted than for the ones who applied but due to the race of the students who had the lower grades they got accepted. I wonder if they follow that polocy you always see when applying to schools or a job aboud "not discimiating based on race, relig creed.... and so forth. The entire administrative commitee should be locked up for DISCRIMINATION.

 

[thomast98]

LOOK at there stats on predent.com for the GPA of the students that applied and who were accepted. It is MUCH lower for the ones that were accepted than for the ones who applied but due to the race of the students who had the lower grades they got accepted. I wonder if they follow that polocy you always see when applying to schools or a job aboud "not discimiating based on race, relig creed.... and so forth. The entire administrative commitee should be locked up for DISCRIMINATION.

Yup, basically if you're dumb and black you have one foot in the door but if you're white or even dumb and white you have no shot...makes a ton of sense. I know someone who attends howard and they said if it wasn't for the huge curves, half of his class would have failed out already... 👎

 

[Crest]

LOOK at there stats on predent.com for the GPA of the students that applied and who were accepted. It is MUCH lower for the ones that were accepted than for the ones who applied but due to the race of the students who had the lower grades they got accepted. I wonder if they follow that polocy you always see when applying to schools or a job aboud "not discimiating based on race, relig creed.... and so forth. The entire administrative commitee should be locked up for DISCRIMINATION.

RACIST? DISCRIMINATION? REALLY? This topic is one that has been talked about ad nauseum on the boards. May I ask if your shallow perception of Howard (and Meharry I'm assuming) is based off of your own rejection from the school? CBENNETT, my friend, Howard's method of accepting its students is not based SOLELY off of gpa and standardized test scores. Of course they have requirements, just as any other ACCREDITED dental school, but we all know that high test scores and a competitive GPA does not necessarily equate good interpersonal skills and/or empathy for those under your care. I apologize, CBENNET, if Howard breaks away from the norm by not giving way entirely to the "stats" game, but rather by seeking students who are interested in careers in dentistry for reasons outside of its monetary benefits. To my knowledge, Howard has been kicking out excellent dentists for years, so clearly they must be doing something right. Thus, if your the son/daughter of an established dentist with an excellent GPA and stellar DAT scores, unless you have done extensive volunteering or shown your committment to serving the underserved or even displayed a true desire to attend Howard, then it likely isn't gonna get you that coveted acceptance letter. Sorry!!!!

-And by the way, if Howard is so "racist". What accounts for the non-african american student population? Or furthermore, the content of the non-african american students?

 

[Crest]

Yup, basically if you're dumb and black you have one foot in the door but if you're white or even dumb and white you have no shot...makes a ton of sense. I know someone who attends howard and they said if it wasn't for the huge curves, half of his class would have failed out already... 👎

Okay THOMAST98, because you want to piggyback off of what someone else said, its your turn. I must say that was a rather ignorant statement. The "dumbness" and igorance of those who make comments and formulate opinions on issues they know nothing about never ceases to amaze me. Lets face it THOMAST98, regardless of what your imaginary friend who attends Howard said, the fact remains that if a school is full of "dumb" students (black, white, or red), then that likely means that the students do not pass the boards, which means that they do not receive degrees, which means that they do not go on to practice dentistry, which means that the school usually loses its accreditation. Hmmm, does any of this apply to Howard? I'm afraid not! Once again an ignorant post has graced the pages of studentdoctor.net. Do your research next time before you make another "DUMMY" of yourself. 😉

 

[hockeydentist]

RACIST? DISCRIMINATION? REALLY? This topic is one that has been talked about ad nauseum on the boards. May I ask if your shallow perception of Howard (and Meharry I'm assuming) is based off of your own rejection from the school? CBENNETT, my friend, Howard's method of accepting its students is not based SOLELY off of gpa and standardized test scores. Of course they have requirements, just as any other ACCREDITED dental school, but we all know that high test scores and a competitive GPA does not necessarily equate good interpersonal skills and/or empathy for those under your care. I apologize, CBENNET, if Howard breaks away from the norm by not giving way entirely to the "stats" game, but rather by seeking students who are interested in careers in dentistry for reasons outside of its monetary benefits. To my knowledge, Howard has been kicking out excellent dentists for years, so clearly they must be doing something right. Thus, if your the son/daughter of an established dentist with an excellent GPA and stellar DAT scores, unless you have done extensive volunteering or shown your committment to serving the underserved or even displayed a true desire to attend Howard, then it likely isn't gonna get you that coveted acceptance letter. Sorry!!!!

-And by the way, if Howard is so "racist". What accounts for the non-african american student population? Or furthermore, the content of the non-african american students?

I believe meharry and howard are both privately funded schools and private schools don't necassarily follow the same rules when it comes to selecting students as state supported schools. I could be wrong about the state funding, but again theres nothing wrong with bringing in diversity in the dental profession.

 

[Yah-E]

Congrats to all who are accepted to Howard. Washington DC is a great city to be in for 4 years! I was looking at Howard Dental's tuition, being a private school, the tuition is quite inexpensive (<$30K/year). Over 50% female, hey, you can't beat that.

I was also looking at the OMFS department info. Howard has a female chairman and accepting 3 residents a year. Interesting.

Dentistry need schools such as Howard and Meharry: 1) to provide an opportunity for minorities to get into dentistry and 2) look for other attributes in applicants other than numbers.

Come to think of it, my school (Nova Southeastern University) probably has the 3rd highest minority student population year after year after Howard & Meharry. Roughly 1/3 of each class are Hispanics/Spanish (with less than a hand full of African Americans if any) out of 106 students each year. Only difference is that at NSU, the admission GPA continues to climb with the next incoming class hovering around 3.63 and 20 DATs.

Nonetheless, get ready to enjoy 4 great years of dental school and taking the NBDE Part 1 immediately after 1st year is not a bad thing. It works for NSU perfectly! 👍

 

[cbennett]

Dentistry need schools such as Howard and Meharry: 1) to provide an opportunity for minorities to get into dentistry and 2) look for other attributes in applicants other than numbers. :

Schools #1 job is to provide an education to the most qualified students. Does anyone think that the NBA needs teams that give whites/asians/hispanics/na an opportunity to play.
Hell lets give that team a 30 point handicap while were at it. HOWARD IS RACIST and every person in the administration should be locked up for discrimination. All you need to do is look at predent.com and see that the numbers on the people who apply are significantly higher than who are accepted but because the people with the lower scores are "most likely black" they give them that 30 handicap i refered to above. I would feel insulted to go to Howard knowing i got in just because of my race.
BTW i am 50%+ NA for anyone that is curious and i will not put that down on my application becasue i have higher ethical standard and i would feel like S$%$ knowing that i participated in racism by accepting an offer that i got through a school discrimintating against someone else. I hope that everyone at that school with below par stats knows that they got in BY INDIRECTLY DISCRIMINATING better qualified students. Also for those of you who think that im pissed that i dident get accepted there i am going to be a senior next year with a 3.79 gpa and 3.84 science GPA at UCLA/PENN and will not even think about applying to HOWARD

 

[cbennett]

-And by the way, if Howard is so "racist". What accounts for the non-african american student population? Or furthermore, the content of the non-african american students?

WHAT non-american student population. I am looking right now at the 42nd official guide to dental schools published by the ADEA in 2003-2004 and out of 255 black applicants 75 are accepted or just under 1/3 are accepted. For asians which are the "smartest race" only 3 out of 585 were accepted or about 1/200
AND FOR THE GRAND TOTAL of the 83 people entering 75 black, 1 hispanic, 0 NA, 3 ASIANS, AND i am guessing the last four people are either from another country, dident state race, or are white.

SO I AM NOT SURE WHERE the non-black student population is but its certainly not at howard. i think that you better check your stats before you speak and as well as the person who told thomas to. and i am pretty sure the non-black population that is in the school is there to help boost the stats.

 

[cbennett]

I, but again theres nothing wrong with bringing in diversity in the dental profession.

I dont mind diversity as long as its not at someones expence. A MORE QUALIFIED STUDENT HAD TO BE REJECTED INORDER TO ALLOW A LESS QUALIFIED STUDENT TO GET THE ACCEPTANCE. That my friend is where i have a problem

 

[hockeydentist]

I dont mind diversity as long as its not at someones expence. A MORE QUALIFIED STUDENT HAD TO BE REJECTED INORDER TO ALLOW A LESS QUALIFIED STUDENT TO GET THE ACCEPTANCE. That my friend is where i have a problem

cbennett you bring up a very valid point.

 

[Mr.E]

Schools #1 job is to provide an education to the most qualified students. Does anyone think that the NBA needs teams that give whites/asians/hispanics/na an opportunity to play.
Hell lets give that team a 30 point handicap while were at it. HOWARD IS RACIST and every person in the administration should be locked up for discrimination. All you need to do is look at predent.com and see that the numbers on the people who apply are significantly higher than who are accepted but because the people with the lower scores are "most likely black" they give them that 30 handicap i refered to above. I would feel insulted to go to Howard knowing i got in just because of my race.
BTW i am 50%+ NA for anyone that is curious and i will not put that down on my application becasue i have higher ethical standard and i would feel like S$%$ knowing that i participated in racism by accepting an offer that i got through a school discrimintating against someone else. I hope that everyone at that school with below par stats knows that they got in BY INDIRECTLY DISCRIMINATING better qualified students. Also for those of you who think that im pissed that i dident get accepted there i am going to be a senior next year with a 3.79 gpa and 3.84 science GPA at UCLA/PENN and will not even think about applying to HOWARD

Is Howard selecting less competitive applicants at the expense of others? Howard considers every aspect of one's application, which includes one's desire to serve the underrepresented communites in our country and afar. Perhaps the more "competitive" applicants are those who've express a whole-hearted desire to serve those mentioned above. Howard's been around a longtime, and obviously they've chosen the right group of individuals to meet a need. Seriously folks, grades aren't everything. Has anyone ever been treated by a Ivy league doctor or dentist? How about an average graduate? In my life I've been seen by physicians and dentists alike, who've graduated from everything from Harvard to foreign medical schools. Guess what? The Ivy league graduate didn't sh#t magic medicine out of his or her a@@. When it's all said and done, it's the individual who will become a deservingly respected member of the dental community. IMO I will venture to guess that this debate over GPA/sGPA etc., is a predent issue, because once your in it doesn't matter. I've said enough! Good luck to all the 2007 applicants, those with stellar GPAs and not so stellar.

 

[TX2thDR]

HOWARD IS RACIST and every person in the administration should be locked up for discrimination.

hahaha. hmm.. ok guy. there seems to be a bit of animosity in your statements, are you really bypassing Howard as an option? or have they bypassed you... you claim to have a 3.8 gpa... well you can claim whatever you want. why even bother with this thread? you are obviously "too good" for Howard.

whoever said a school's responsibility was to provide an education to the most qualified students? i never heard that before. the NBA teams have a different goal in mind: to WIN. Howard has a different one, to provide an education to people who care about other people, not just themselves.

i know quite a few selfish and arrogant pricks. they have excellent grades but does that give them the right to automatically be accepted? i also know quite a few cheaters with good grades. does that give them a right? how about some clumsy nerd with big hands and just book smarts? if you aren't ignorant you'll catch my drift.

 

[thomast98]

What a joke. It's like the police department taking the black guy who scores an 80 on the test over the white guy who scores a 90 just because the black guy has darker skin...It's B.S.

 

[Crest]

What a joke. It's like the police department taking the black guy who scores an 80 on the test over the white guy who scores a 90 just because the black guy has darker skin...It's B.S.

But what if the black guy has more experience in a related field or seems to exhibit a higher work ethic? There is more to life than test scores...but, if thats the ONLY angle that you choose to defend your argument, then i won't waste time debating back and forth with you. Dumb, unjust, racist...call it what you want. The fact remains that there are 53 other dental schools to choose from. So if your disgruntled that Howard looks at more than numbers to determine one's acceptance...then move on. Its a private school and quite frankly they can do whatever the hell they want. I'm not losing any sleep, you probably shouldn't either. Good Luck!

 

[Crest]

I dont mind diversity as long as its not at someones expence. A MORE QUALIFIED STUDENT HAD TO BE REJECTED INORDER TO ALLOW A LESS QUALIFIED STUDENT TO GET THE ACCEPTANCE. That my friend is where i have a problem

TEST SCORES/GPA DOES NOT NECESSARILY EQUATE QUALIFIED!

 

[cbennett]

I would never take my kid to a dentist that graduated from howard if he/she was black. Not becasue i'm racist, but because i am against racism and i would rather know my kid was in the hand a student that had to work to get were he was not had **** handed to him. (I DO REALIZE THAT NOT ALL BLACKS HAD GOT IN BECAUSE OF THERE RACE, but many did so i would not want to take the risk.)

Who the hell picks a SN after a toothpaste company???crest get a life. Your argument is a joke. You make PRESIDENT BUSH look like a good debater. You obviously are one of those idiots at Howard that got in(or wold get in) because your skin tone not because of your intellectual potential. I got a ? about what you(crest) said. You mentioned some thing like "what if the black guy had more experieance" DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THEY GOT IN BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE(experience in what FAILING) I some how doubt that of 255 blacks that applied and the 75 that got accepted all had more experiance than the other 1300 people that applied and only 8 got accepted. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU SAYING THEY PLAN TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS WHEN THEY GRADUATE i really doubt all of them will plus if that was true wouldent it be about income and area you plan to move to and not skin color. Also i would think there would be more Latinos and Native Americans, and poor white and asian kids(but there are not).
So the obvious reason these people got in was because of skin tone.

And one more ? for crest, What qualifies a student as Qualified, you failed to mention what you thought made a student qualified in you post above.

Please be sure to respond to both (2) the ?s above and CLEARLY give your opinion.

 

[Crest]

I would never take my kid to a dentist that graduated from howard if he/she was black. Not becasue i'm racist, but because i am against racism and i would rather know my kid was in the hand a student that had to work to get were he was not had **** handed to him. (I DO REALIZE THAT NOT ALL BLACKS HAD GOT IN BECAUSE OF THERE RACE, but many did so i would not want to take the risk.)

Who the hell picks a SN after a toothpaste company???crest get a life. Your argument is a joke. You make PRESIDENT BUSH look like a good debater. You obviously are one of those idiots at Howard that got in(or wold get in) because your skin tone not because of your intellectual potential. I got a ? about what you(crest) said. You mentioned some thing like "what if the black guy had more experieance" DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THEY GOT IN BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE(experience in what FAILING) I some how doubt that of 255 blacks that applied and the 75 that got accepted all had more experiance than the other 1300 people that applied and only 8 got accepted. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU SAYING THEY PLAN TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS WHEN THEY GRADUATE i really doubt all of them will plus if that was true wouldent it be about income and area you plan to move to and not skin color. Also i would think there would be more Latinos and Native Americans, and poor white and asian kids(but there are not).
So the obvious reason these people got in was because of skin tone.

And one more ? for crest, What qualifies a student as Qualified, you failed to mention what you thought made a student qualified in you post above.

Please be sure to respond to both (2) the ?s above and CLEARLY give your opinion.

No, CBENNETT you get a life. I became disinterested in everything you had to say along time ago. Its obvious that your trying to pull every trick out of your hat to prove your failing argument, but to try to be funny and make a big deal out of an SN NAME?! How JUVENILE is that??? Grow up! A wise person once said "never argue with an idiot because from a distance, people may have trouble telling you apart"...truer words were never spoken. So with that being said, I will bid you adieu. Good luck in life, your a joke. Start your own Howard bashing thread. This one wasn't intended for those purposes. If you have a rebuttal to anything I have said, you can take that up with me in private messages. Im sure that the good folks on SDN are tired of reading this BS. And as for as my intellectual potential or ethnicity, dont speak on things you know nothing about. The notion that you use assumptions and not facts, would parallel yourself more to the debating techniques of George Bush, not I.

 

[Mr.E]

I would never take my kid to a dentist that graduated from howard if he/she was black. Not becasue i'm racist, but because i am against racism and i would rather know my kid was in the hand a student that had to work to get were he was not had **** handed to him. (I DO REALIZE THAT NOT ALL BLACKS HAD GOT IN BECAUSE OF THERE RACE, but many did so i would not want to take the risk.)

Who the hell picks a SN after a toothpaste company???crest get a life. Your argument is a joke. You make PRESIDENT BUSH look like a good debater. You obviously are one of those idiots at Howard that got in(or wold get in) because your skin tone not because of your intellectual potential. I got a ? about what you(crest) said. You mentioned some thing like "what if the black guy had more experieance" DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THEY GOT IN BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE(experience in what FAILING) I some how doubt that of 255 blacks that applied and the 75 that got accepted all had more experiance than the other 1300 people that applied and only 8 got accepted. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU SAYING THEY PLAN TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS WHEN THEY GRADUATE i really doubt all of them will plus if that was true wouldent it be about income and area you plan to move to and not skin color. Also i would think there would be more Latinos and Native Americans, and poor white and asian kids(but there are not).
So the obvious reason these people got in was because of skin tone.

And one more ? for crest, What qualifies a student as Qualified, you failed to mention what you thought made a student qualified in you post above.

Please be sure to respond to both (2) the ?s above and CLEARLY give your opinion.

Doesn't the black graduate from Howard have to take the same examines as other dentist in order to graduate and become licensed? Howard graduates pass their boards and graduate, so how are they not qaulified? Your statement above is bigotry at its finest! Seriously how old are you? It really sickens me to see the racist comments on this message board, despite the ongoing qualifying remarks "I'm not a racist." If it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, well, it's probably is a duck!

 

[Mr.E]

I would never take my kid to a dentist that graduated from howard if he/she was black. Not becasue i'm racist, but because i am against racism and i would rather know my kid was in the hand a student that had to work to get were he was not had **** handed to him. (I DO REALIZE THAT NOT ALL BLACKS HAD GOT IN BECAUSE OF THERE RACE, but many did so i would not want to take the risk.)

Who the hell picks a SN after a toothpaste company???crest get a life. Your argument is a joke. You make PRESIDENT BUSH look like a good debater. You obviously are one of those idiots at Howard that got in(or wold get in) because your skin tone not because of your intellectual potential. I got a ? about what you(crest) said. You mentioned some thing like "what if the black guy had more experieance" DO YOU REALY THINK THAT THEY GOT IN BECAUSE THEY HAD MORE EXPERIENCE(experience in what FAILING) I some how doubt that of 255 blacks that applied and the 75 that got accepted all had more experiance than the other 1300 people that applied and only 8 got accepted. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU SAYING THEY PLAN TO SERVE UNDERSERVED AREAS WHEN THEY GRADUATE i really doubt all of them will plus if that was true wouldent it be about income and area you plan to move to and not skin color. Also i would think there would be more Latinos and Native Americans, and poor white and asian kids(but there are not).
So the obvious reason these people got in was because of skin tone.

And one more ? for crest, What qualifies a student as Qualified, you failed to mention what you thought made a student qualified in you post above.

Please be sure to respond to both (2) the ?s above and CLEARLY give your opinion.

Here is Howard's website information:

STATISTICS ON FALL 2004 CLASS

- 55% are females
- 78% are underrepresented minorities
- Class size: 83

- National Board Results: Average passing score Part I 80% and Part II 83%


As it states 78% of the class is underrepresented minorities: Essentially that is approximately 65 students, leaving 18 to 20 seats for non-minorities. Also, the 'underrepresented minorities' is plural not singular, meaning it represents blacks, latinos, Indians etc. During my interview the groups was very diverse and throughout my tour of the school the student body seemed equally diverse. Sadly, this probably will not convince you otherwise.

 

[vize]

statements from people like cbennett and thomast98 are just statements made because of what they've supposedly heard or what they've selectively heard. like mr. e and others have said, how are you not qualified if you're able to pass all of the tests and become licensed? it's like they're mad at the fact that someone could be less of a nerd and still become a dentist. sorry to break it to you, but paper numbers don't mean **** when it comes to being a good dentist. they're only useful for majority of schools to gauge how you will perform as a dentist based off of the statistics of others who have performed well while also scoring well on paper.

another thing that amazes me is how much people want to be segregated on these forums. i always see threads like 'white pre-dents!', 'persian pre-dents!', etc. who really gives a ****? aren't we all supposed to help out others who are interested in the same field as us? i've only checked out the white pre-dents thread and it seemed like a haven for people to rant about how pissed off they are that whites are slowly losing the 100% acceptance rate that they once had. once again i'm sorry to hurt your reality, but diversity is natural; not having diversity is unnatural.

 

[hockeydentist]

statements from people like cbennett and thomast98 are just statements made because of what they've supposedly heard or what they've selectively heard. like mr. e and others have said, how are you not qualified if you're able to pass all of the tests and become licensed? it's like they're mad at the fact that someone could be less of a nerd and still become a dentist. sorry to break it to you, but paper numbers don't mean **** when it comes to being a good dentist. they're only useful for majority of schools to gauge how you will perform as a dentist based off of the statistics of others who have performed well while also scoring well on paper.

another thing that amazes me is how much people want to be segregated on these forums. i always see threads like 'white pre-dents!', 'persian pre-dents!', etc. who really gives a ****? aren't we all supposed to help out others who are interested in the same field as us? i've only checked out the white pre-dents thread and it seemed like a haven for people to rant about how pissed off they are that whites are slowly losing the 100% acceptance rate that they once had. once again i'm sorry to hurt your reality, but diversity is natural; not having diversity is unnatural.

wow this thread starting to turn real ugly..

 

[cbennett]

No, CBENNETT you get a life. I became disinterested in everything you had to say along time ago. Its obvious that your trying to pull every trick out of your hat to prove your failing argument, but to try to be funny and make a big deal out of an SN NAME?! How JUVENILE is that??? Grow up! A wise person once said "never argue with an idiot because from a distance, people may have trouble telling you apart"...truer words were never spoken. So with that being said, I will bid you adieu. Good luck in life, your a joke. Start your own Howard bashing thread. This one wasn't intended for those purposes. If you have a rebuttal to anything I have said, you can take that up with me in private messages. Im sure that the good folks on SDN are tired of reading this BS. And as for as my intellectual potential or ethnicity, dont speak on things you know nothing about. The notion that you use assumptions and not facts, would parallel yourself more to the debating techniques of George Bush, not I.

I do believe you failed to answer my 2 questions i asked you. I knew that since i got you backed in a corner you would just change the subjet as you just did that is why i wrote my message the way i did

 

[cbennett]

? it's like they're mad at the fact that someone could be less of a nerd and still become a dentist.

nerd??? i think not. well i guess thats determined by your definition of a nerd. What makes you not a nerd? Do you play any division 1 sports because i played tennis my freshman and sophomore year for UCLA and turned down an offer when i was in high school to play ice-hockey for Boston College(another division 1 team). As well, in high school i made the Pa first-allstate team for ice-hockey,tennis my senior year.

I love how you attack me when you know nothing about me rather than debate. Back to the real topic I use logic and facts when i debate you make statements and accusations with no backing.

I am still waiting for thoses answers. I hope you don't bitch out because i am making you look like too much of an a$$

 

[Sprgrover]

I do believe you failed to answer my 2 questions i asked you. I knew that since i got you backed in a corner you would just change the subjet as you just did that is why i wrote my message the way i did

And because of your lack of respect for other guests and insults you are now being warned.

Please keep the posts on topic and professional as I don't like closing down threads.

 

[cbennett]

And because of your lack of respect for other guests and insults you are now being warned.

Please keep the posts on topic and professional as I don't like closing down threads.

You seemed to like closing my thread yesterday. If you remember what i wrote in my introduction your choice not to close this thread but to close the other one only supports what i wrote in the closed white pre-dents 2 thread.

Whats a warning do anyway??? dident seem to affect me. anyway i'm my brothers sn so i couldent give a crap what it does.

 

[Crest]

I do believe you failed to answer my 2 questions i asked you. I knew that since i got you backed in a corner you would just change the subjet as you just did that is why i wrote my message the way i did

Do you have nothing else better to do on your summer break?! PM me, we can go from there. This was once a positive thread. Hopefully, there can be a return to normalcy.

 

[Crest]

You seemed to like closing my thread yesterday. If you remember what i wrote in my introduction your choice not to close this thread but to close the other one only supports what i wrote in the closed white pre-dents 2 thread.

Whats a warning do anyway??? dident seem to affect me. anyway i'm my brothers sn so i couldent give a crap what it does.

Lol, on second note don't PM me. Your beyond ignorant, so therefore I'm not going to entertain this anymore.

 

[Sprgrover]

You seemed to like closing my thread yesterday. If you remember what i wrote in my introduction your choice not to close this thread but to close the other one only supports what i wrote in the closed white pre-dents 2 thread.

Whats a warning do anyway??? dident seem to affect me. anyway i'm my brothers sn so i couldent give a crap what it does.

Don't assume 'like' and a willingness to take action against inappropriate behavior are one in the same.

What's a warning? Well, there are rules to SDN. One of them is that you extend respect and courtesy to others - the same things I'm sure you value and appreciate in your interactions with others either face to face or online. Disagreements and debates are expected, but we ask that guests don't resort to name calling, insults, and other rude behavior. Continued violations will be met with disciplinary action up to and including being banned from SDN. And similar to closing threads, I don't like having to resort to such measures. Please play nice.