HPSP and "Years of Service" for Basic Pay

[DredPiratRobrts]

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How does HPSP influence Basic Pay via years of service? Are the years of service calculated from ODS (or commissioning) onward? For example, when I start residency will I have Basic Pay as an O-3 with 4 years of service (since I will have been an Ensign for 4 years in med school and would have been commissioned 4 years prior)?

 

[elderjack21]

How does HPSP influence Basic Pay via years of service? Are the years of service calculated from ODS (or commissioning) onward? For example, when I start residency will I have Basic Pay as an O-3 with 4 years of service (since I will have been an Ensign for 4 years in med school and would have been commissioned 4 years prior)?

This is the way that I understand it...

Your time in school is in the IRR (individual ready reserve) and does not count towards basic pay at all.

However, once you start residency that time will then count towards pay. So when you graduate, you will be an O-3 (LT for Navy, CPT for Army/AF) with zero years in service.

 

[orbitsurgMD]

This is the way that I understand it...

Your time in school is in the IRR (individual ready reserve) and does not count towards basic pay at all.

However, once you start residency that time will then count towards pay. So when you graduate, you will be an O-3 (LT for Navy, CPT for Army/AF) with zero years in service.

Your time in school is in the ready reserve. Your drill component is combined into a six week block served at a military facility or on school orders and for which you receive reserve drilling pay and benefits. Generally you have to report to an ROTC command office on starting your six weeks duty. You also are required to perform PRT while on your drilling time.

IRR assignment does not require any drilling duties and you do not receive any pay at all or enjoy any benefits, including accrual of good years toward reserve retirement. IRR is the "default" status you are assigned if not otherwise on active duty or in drilling reserve status.

Medical school time has been modified post-DOPMA (ca. 1982) so that none of the years spent in HPSP status as a drilling reservist count toward satisfying time in service toward pay (so you start as an 0-3, less than 2 rather than an O-3 with 3 or 4 years service on graduation as pre-DOPMA.) The years in med school are added into the calculation as good reserve years only after fulfilling the minimum active or reserve service to qualify for retirement once eligible by service after medical school. Medical school time while in HPSP does not credit toward the 8-year commitment in commissioned service incurred by taking your initial Oath of Office either. That clock starts when you are superceded to O-3 on graduation, and it runs eight years straight, regardless of your status--active duty, ready reserve or IRR.

 

[The White Coat Investor]

My HPSP contract (and my orders upon starting AD) specifically state I will not get credit toward pay or retirement for time in the HPSP program. Upon graduating from a 3 year civilian residency, I was paid as an O-3 with 3 years.

 

[Milamber]

Question as a former Marine 4 years enlisted if I go the route of HPSP would I still have 4 years of IRR service or would I be exempt from it because I all ready did 4 years of IRR? Thanks!

 

[NavyFP]

Question as a former Marine 4 years enlisted if I go the route of HPSP would I still have 4 years of IRR service or would I be exempt from it because I all ready did 4 years of IRR? Thanks!

Yes, you will still have the 4 year IRR obligation. (provided you do no internship or residency time on active duty)

 

[Milamber]

Also if I go the HPSP program as a former Marine with 4 years in when I begin my tour would I be getting paid as an O-3 with 4 years of service or would I get paid as an O-3 with 8 years of service. Thanks

 

[NavyFP]

Also if I go the HPSP program as a former Marine with 4 years in when I begin my tour would I be getting paid as an O-3 with 4 years of service or would I get paid as an O-3 with 8 years of service. Thanks

O-3 with 4.

 

[The White Coat Investor]

O-3 with 4.

Wouldn't it be O-3E (assuming he was enlisted?)

 

[NavyFP]

Wouldn't it be O-3E (assuming he was enlisted?)

You are correct.

 

[Milamber]

You are correct.

thanks for the info. I knew I'd get credit for being enlisted but I wasn't sure if I would get credit for time served. I'll double check with my recruiter (for all the help recruiters are)but I assume you are right. BTW do you know why I wouldn't get comped for my time served?

 

[FutureNavyFP]

thanks for the info. I knew I'd get credit for being enlisted but I wasn't sure if I would get credit for time served. I'll double check with my recruiter (for all the help recruiters are)but I assume you are right. BTW do you know why I wouldn't get comped for my time served?

If you were prior commissioned then you get comped with half of your commissioned time that counts towards advancement. If you are prior enlisted then you will only get credit for time in service (not time in HPSP) that counts towards pay.

Is this what you are asking?

 

[haujun]

Wouldn't it be O-3E (assuming he was enlisted?)

O-3E applies if you spent over 4 years that is 4 years plus ONE day. Thus you have to enlisted for at least five years.😎