Hypothetical Question. How quickly could graduating resident find a job at this point?

[ladysmanfelpz]

Considering life choices and decisions. If I were to change my path, how quickly could I get a job? I'm fine with waiting until boards or after. Would that be doable? I did get my license in another state, hedging my bets you could guess, as I have had some second thoughts. Just curious on turn around and don't want to damage long term future potential with large gap in employment, but fine with a few months gap.

Obviously won't be my first pic, but as long as I have some income I'm good.

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[calvnandhobbs68]

I mean it depends on how restricted you are geographically and how picky you are. Want the last like 5 recruiting emails CompHealth keeps throwing in my spam folder since last week?

Outpatient Adult Psychiatrist - Harrison, NY
- 3 days per week in Psych ER, 2 days in OP Mental Health Services Clinic
- 10-12 patients per day
- No call
- Academic Appointment through New York Medical College

Virginia Opportunities:

• Inpatient Adult Psychiatrist No fellowship is required, and J-1 visa sponsorship is available.
• Consult-Liaison Psychiatrist (Hybrid schedule available)
  No fellowship is required, and J-1 visa sponsorship is available.

New England Opportunity:

• Inpatient Child/Adolescent Psychiatrist
  Fellowship not required.

Highlights for All Roles:

• Flexible scheduling options, including hybrid models and four-day workweeks (4x10s)
• Competitive compensation over 350k+ range annually
• PRN positions also available

1. Adult Psychiatrist – Fort Wayne, IN
Schedule: 14 days on / 14 days off

• 100% inpatient setting
• 3-year employment contract
• Approx. 15 patients per day
• Supervision of 3 Nurse Practitioners
• You’re free to leave once all patients have been seen

2. Outpatient Psychiatrist – Beaumont, TX
Child/Adolescent or Adult Focus

• 100% outpatient, on-site (no hybrid/remote)
• Monday–Friday, 32–40 hours per week
• Call schedule to be discussed with client
• Opportunity for resident supervision and academic involvement (not required)
• Brand-new $70 million facility with expanding inpatient and outpatient services
• Currently in the first year of a Psychiatry Residency Program

I could keep going lol.

 

[Merovinge]

If you have a license in the state and mutual parties want to move fast, it can happen awfully quick, certainly within a few months or even less. It also depends on the practice environment for how long credentialing will take. You can always work a (crummy) tele job or locums for a bit so there is no gap in employment, in this era I really wouldn't be worried about a gap.

 

[michaelrack]

find a job - 1 week
get credentialed in a state you are licensed in: 2-4 months
if not licensed in that state; probably 6 months.

 

[mistafab]

I would say 2-4 months at the soonest. The trouble isn't getting the job, it is all the credentialing that slows it down. That is assuming you already have the license in the state in question.

 

[comp1]

It is 3 months typically, 4-6 at the VA unfortunately. I imagine it could happen faster, but I wouldn't trust any HR that said it unless I knew someone personally there.

 

[ladysmanfelpz]

How come so long with credentialing? What all goes into it? Didn't we already have background check with getting the license? I'm guessing its just a lot of the same stuff we always have to do such as CV, references, education and training verification and the delay is between programs and your workplace of interest.

 

[nexus73]

How come so long with credentialing? What all goes into it? Didn't we already have background check with getting the license? I'm guessing its just a lot of the same stuff we always have to do such as CV, references, education and training verification and the delay is between programs and your workplace of interest.

For hospitals at least they have a whole department primarily focused on approving and maintaining credentialing/privileges for doctors. It takes time because it's a laborious process. The annoying thing is you typically have to submit everything to the hospital (e.g. past employers, references, past malpractice insurance documents) all of which takes you a ton of time, but then they have to verify all of that is accurate which also takes a ton of time. And once the hospital gets everything verified and there are no red flags it has to go to a credential committee which may only meet once a month so if you missed the meeting this week, you may not be up for approval for another month. I suspect there is a way to make this much more efficient, but for hospitals it's more of a feature than a bug. For most doctors they don't need you to start this month (and if they do it's sometimes possible to expedite the process). But for employed doctors it creates significant friction which makes it harder to just up and leave for another job because you can't just give 2 weeks and be working at the next hospital within 2 weeks.

 

[comp1]

The hospital is on the hook for everything you do and if it can be shown they missed anything in your history, they can even be on the hook for punitive damages. Most places have their own special forms and processes, much of it highly duplicative within various part of the hospital. There is a cost to slow hiring, there is a much, much greater cost to bad hiring. Licensing is just a start, it is not some sort of outsourcing of credentialing. The licensing board is not going to be the one sued. The hospital is going to do much more detailed checks than a licensing board. They are going to call your references and if you are a new grad, your PD. Most credentialing boards only meet monthly because it is a bunch of bigwigs and they only bring you up when your packet is 100% complete. If there are any red flags, your hiring manager will have to write a justification of why they should still hire you. They also have to figure out what your actual salary will be which is a very complex process as well. There are IT issues with getting you access too and enrolled in all the other programs

 

[2025DandW]

If you are just looking for a temporary/locums position until you find ya permanent position, it depends on how desperate a hospital is to onboard you. I just got credentialed in two weeks, and I was dragging my feet. This is not the first time I was able to be credentialed in a short period of time, and I have worked at numerous hospitals throughout my career, so my CV is quite extensive.

 

[calvinhobbes]

Super fast for ****ty jobs from comp health lol. Takes about 4 months for a legit hospital/huge name employer.

 

[2025DandW]

Super fast for ****ty jobs from comp health lol. Takes about 4 months for a legit hospital/huge name employer.

 

[2025DandW]

Not Comphealth, and my “legitimate” former employer is allegedly credentialing locums positions in 2 weeks from emails I have received. If I remember correctly, it took me 4-6 months to credential with them. However, they are having trouble keeping psychiatrists now. On average, locums has taken me about two months with “legitimate” facilities. The for profit players, think UHS, etc., are usually the ones moving faster. But, if you choose to do so, you can provide good care at these facilities; nothing is stopping you.

 

[2025DandW]

Not Comphealth, and my “legitimate” former employer is allegedly credentialing locums positions in 2 weeks from emails I have received. If I remember correctly, it took me 4-6 months to credential with them. However, they are having trouble keeping psychiatrists now. On average, locums has taken me about two months with “legitimate” facilities. The for profit players, think UHS, etc., are usually the ones moving faster. But, if you choose to do so, you can provide good care at these facilities; nothing is stopping you.

I should clarify that 4-6 months was for a W2 job. I have never had a locum position take over 2 months.