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I want to stay in NY to be close to family but cannot find an attending position of even fellowship for now. I am actively license in NY. What else can I do to make a decent living. I see some doctors' offices need physicians to perform physicals for $85/hr. Can I do those jobs? Anything else can I do with AP/CP board and fellowship-training?


Any input is appreciated. Any job/fellowship opportunity in NY please PM me. Thanks a million.
 
Does this happen on other boards or does pathology always seem to get these chuckleheads...

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I want to stay in NY to be close to family but cannot find an attending position of even fellowship for now. I am actively license in NY. What else can I do to make a decent living. I see some doctors' offices need physicians to perform physicals for $85/hr. Can I do those jobs? Anything else can I do with AP/CP board and fellowship-training?


Any input is appreciated. Any job/fellowship opportunity in NY please PM me. Thanks a million.

You can probably do physicals if you review bates and fake it until you make it. Good luck to you.
 
Work as a Pathlogy assistant. They make better money than and academic pathologist.
 
Work as a Pathlogy assistant. They make better money than and academic pathologist.

I don't mind working as a PA, at least temporarily until I find a job/fellowship. Actually, I have applied for a few but received no response. Even PAs are competitive?
 
My advice: move.

Everyone should understand that in pathology you cannot be geographically restricted or things will be very tough - particularly in high demand cities, which is coincidentally where most training programs are. DO NOT get too attached to the city where your training program is, and don't let yourself start thinking about living there long term. Be willing to go anywhere and your odds will improve.

If you thought that you could finish training in NYC and get a good job as a fresh grad there, well I am sorry that you were deceived. You have to know somone - close friend or family connection. And even then there are so many people competing with you with those same types of connections and even several years work experience. It's going to be tough.

Don't work as a PA, that is a career killer. Time goes by and you haven't seen a slide in how long? It doesn't help you, and many employers will see it as a desperate move and wonder why you did it. "I wanted to stay in the area and couldn't find a real job" won't cut it.
 
I want to stay in NY to be close to family but cannot find an attending position of even fellowship for now. I am actively license in NY. What else can I do to make a decent living. I see some doctors' offices need physicians to perform physicals for $85/hr. Can I do those jobs? Anything else can I do with AP/CP board and fellowship-training?


Any input is appreciated. Any job/fellowship opportunity in NY please PM me. Thanks a million.

Simply put: move. No, you don't get to choose WHERE you work when you finish training. You may be lucky and find something where you want to be, you may not. NYC? Come on. Even the jobs that do open up in NYC pay squat because they know so many people like you are dying to stay there and work cheap. Move elsewhere, get a good job, make good money, and fly to NYC to visit family. Keep your eyes open on the NYC job market and move back when something opens up. Don't do anything non-pathology, it's not going to help your career in any way.
 
Work as a Pathlogy assistant. They make better money than and academic pathologist.

Not really. Maybe if one starts as an instructor. Most folks I know (myself included) who started off as an assistant professor make almost twice as much as a starting PA.
 
Simply put: move. No, you don't get to choose WHERE you work when you finish training. You may be lucky and find something where you want to be, you may not. NYC? Come on. Even the jobs that do open up in NYC pay squat because they know so many people like you are dying to stay there and work cheap. Move elsewhere, get a good job, make good money, and fly to NYC to visit family. Keep your eyes open on the NYC job market and move back when something opens up. Don't do anything non-pathology, it's not going to help your career in any way.

Great advice. Leave your family in NYC and go get a job somewhere else in the country and send money back to support them. You can visit them with your two weeks of vacation a year.

It may not have been your dream to do this but some times you do what you have to do. We have a lot of housekeeping staff from Ghana at my hospital. The one that cleans my office left her family behind for this opportunity. She sends money back to them. If you had to take a job in Normal, Illinois and were just a short flight from NYC, you are still way better off than a woman leaving her family and country and traveling 7000 miles to work for $8 an hour.
 
Great advice. Leave your family in NYC and go get a job somewhere else in the country and send money back to support them. You can visit them with your two weeks of vacation a year.

It may not have been your dream to do this but some times you do what you have to do. We have a lot of housekeeping staff from Ghana at my hospital. The one that cleans my office left her family behind for this opportunity. She sends money back to them. If you had to take a job in Normal, Illinois and were just a short flight from NYC, you are still way better off than a woman leaving her family and country and traveling 7000 miles to work for $8 an hour.

Does Normal, Illinois have path jobs? If yes, pls pm me. Thanks.
 
Does Normal, Illinois have path jobs? If yes, pls pm me. Thanks.
Yes. emphasis on plant pathology, particularly sorghum corn.
Adios a**h***.
And from your initial post, you could polish your English skills.
 
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The Department of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine of the Weill Cornell Medical College is seeking an academic cytopathologist for full-time appointment at the Assistant, Associate or Professorial level. Recruitment is sought to permit the department to handle an expanding case volume and also to expand its academic program in cytopathology.

The anatomic pathology facilities, including the faculty offices, sign-out rooms, conference rooms, house staff rooms, gross dissection room and the histology and cytopathology laboratories have been completely renovated and are thoroughly modern. Excellent Immunopathology and Molecular Pathology Laboratories support the translational research programs of the anatomic pathology faculty. Clinical and basic research collaborations are available with faculty within the Department, as well as with faculty from other Weill Cornell Medical College departments and from our neighboring institutions, Rockefeller University and Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center.

The successful candidate should possess strong diagnostic skills, be capable of participating in the service responsibilities of a large, busy and demanding cytopathology service, and have a strong commitment to an academic career and to resident education and medical student teaching. Established diagnostic expertise, a record of scholarly publications and experience in translational research is highly desirable. Board certification in Anatomic Pathology, Board eligibility/certification in Cytopathology, and eligibility for unrestricted medical licensure in New York State is required. Academic rank and compensation will be commensurate with the level of experience and scholarly accomplishments. Interested applicants should forward curriculum vitae, statement of interests, and the names and contact information of three references to:

Karen Gardiner
Associate Recruiter
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[email protected]

The position is available immediately. Applications will be evaluated upon receipt and will be accepted until the position is filled.

This position has been posted twice in the past month.
 
For the O/P - Your first post makes you sound like a troll. If this is not the case I suggest that you provide more information about yourself, such as:

- Where you trained
- What your fellowship training was in
- Whether you have worked as an attending before

If you can convince people that you are not just trolling you might receive less of a hostile response and useful tips about job openings that are suitable for you.
 
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Great advice. Leave your family in NYC and go get a job somewhere else in the country and send money back to support them. You can visit them with your two weeks of vacation a year.
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What exactly do you mean by "family". A husband should of course take his wife and kids with him when he moves to take a physician job.

If a female doctor can't get her husband to move, I guess she would have to choose between her career and family.
 
What exactly do you mean by "family". A husband should of course take his wife and kids with him when he moves to take a physician job.

If a female doctor can't get her husband to move, I guess she would have to choose between her career and family.

Mike's old school. :laugh:

There's not much of a difference today, same decision irrespective of the gender role.

I believe that, if I live long enough to see it, society will grow a greater appreciation of historical norms. These did not develop out of happenstance -- they evolved over generations and generations of trying **** that did not work. They represent a form of knowledge that we should not so lightly -- or so eagerly -- seek to discard... for negative consequences are surely to be had.

I would have to jump on the wagon and say either move or be more open to alternate careers. Very few people enjoy the opportunity to get the job and location of their choosing these days, regardless of specialty. Good luck.
 
the reason I put "family" in quotes is that I was also curious if pathstudent was talking about mother, father, siblings etc rather than spouse and children. I am definitely old school... and old (at least compared to most of the posters on SDN)
 
I don't mind working as a PA, at least temporarily until I find a job/fellowship. Actually, I have applied for a few but received no response. Even PAs are competitive?

Yes, PA spots can be competitive. As an employer, why would someone hire a pathologist over a PA to do PA duties? They're generally better at it than we are.
 
Simply put: move. No, you don't get to choose WHERE you work when you finish training. You may be lucky and find something where you want to be, you may not. NYC? Come on. Even the jobs that do open up in NYC pay squat because they know so many people like you are dying to stay there and work cheap. Move elsewhere, get a good job, make good money, and fly to NYC to visit family. Keep your eyes open on the NYC job market and move back when something opens up. Don't do anything non-pathology, it's not going to help your career in any way.

I agree with the advice about moving. That is your best chance to practice pathology in the United States.

I also agree with the posts about your English skills. I know it's not nice to pick on this, but as an employer considering an applicant who comes from a non-English speaking background, I would be paying lots of attention to the applicant's language skills (spoken, comprehension, and especially in pathology, written).
 
You do not need to fake anything, review what you learned in medical school, and you can work as General Practitioner. Did you know that internal medicine doctors treat dermatologic conditions such as eczema, but most know very little compared to a dermatologist. Stay uptodate by listening to NEJM audio summaries and clinical practice articles.
 
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You do not need to fake anything, review what you learned in medical school, and you can work as General Practitioner. Did you know that internal medicine doctors treat dermatologic conditions such as eczema, but most know very little compared to a dermatologist. Stay uptodate by listening to NEJM audio summaries and clinical practice articles.

General practice is a specialty in its own right.
 
Leave NY. All of your problems begin there.

Get out into the lower density pop areas of the country. It is your only hope.

Think of the Pathology job market as the Zombie Apocalypse: where there are lots of people like NYC, there are TONS of zombies. Run away from there.
 
General practice is a specialty in its own right.

True or False:

The American Board of Medical Specialties lists "General Practice" as a specialty?

As a pathologist the OP probably does not have much clinical experience and has probably never written a prescription. However, the reason people take USMLE step 3 is to see if they are able to practice medicine unsupervised. This is the prerequisite for moonlighting.
 
I want to stay in NY to be close to family but cannot find an attending position of even fellowship for now. I am actively license in NY. What else can I do to make a decent living. I see some doctors' offices need physicians to perform physicals for $85/hr. Can I do those jobs? Anything else can I do with AP/CP board and fellowship-training?


Any input is appreciated. Any job/fellowship opportunity in NY please PM me. Thanks a million.

there is a lab director position at Weil. it is in the classified section of this website. Also, you could work as a Nurse practitioner, just search for seeking nurse practitioner. However, if you didn't do any clinical training, you may not be interested. Nurse practitioner jobs are supervised, and much of their work is in documentation, history, physical, and taking telephone orders from the attending or residents.

Good luck!
 
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