I hate people who say "where you go for undergrad doesn't make a difference"

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A) Quit your bitching and put in the work to get the grades you want. B) Transfer to a different school if you feel so betrayed by the system.

I especially agree with B. Transfer to one of these easy state schools, stay stoned, and rock the MCATs.

The only thing dumber than overpaying for undergrad prestige is overpaying for med school prestige.
 
I know a friend of mine going to Brown got a A in o-chem with a 66%. I know that at my state school i'll need to get at least a 85% to get a A in that class.

Sigh. They aren't the same tests.

The student at Brown was not graded on a raw percentage of the exam, but rather on how they did relative to the rest of the class.

I don't mean to be condescending, but you do know how this sort of grading works, right?

It's not that 60-70 is always set as a B at Brown, like 80-90 is a B at your state school. It's just like how the MCAT is scored actually. Your percentile determines your score, not the raw number of questions.
 
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I have the stats for Emory University (I can't find Vandys). If you look at Emory's stats, it shows that there is not 1 person with a 3.5/30 and the rest with higher gpas. Its really well spread out. I don't know how to upload the chart on this forum



Go Spurs Go, your argument is ******ed, get your facts straight first.
That reads like it's supporting Gospursgo's argument. (i.e. no one with 3.5/30, only higher.)

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Never mind. Can be worded better, I think you meant there are more than just one, and they are spread pretty evenly around 3.5/30.
 
I hate when people presume that supposedly top ranked undergraduate institutions are better / more difficult that state schools. Many medical schools realize that difficulty levels vary from school to school and degree to degree (I bet my computer science degree from a state school required more complex analytical and critical thinking skills than most basic science degrees at so-called prestigious colleges, but on the other hand maybe I am wrong).

Collegiate academia is a meritocracy, so the notion that schools, traditionally known as good, will already self-select for a greater population of students that can make it into medical school (keep in mind that this has nothing to do with doing well in medical school, I went to a state school and scored in the top 10% on my boards which is the most important objective data point used when matching for residency, there were many people in my class from prestigious schools who were not as fortunate). Those that get into medical school after going somewhere like Vanderbilt would have probably still gotten in if they went somewhere else (save a community college).

-senior medical student (T-97days to MD) & proud graduate of a "lowly & inferior" state school

P.S. When medical school starts and all of the best-of-the-best are lumped together, they naturally needed to realign on a new bell curve. It was interesting to see those who fell to the left on that new curve and couldn’t handle it. Beware of your arrogance, it will probably come back to bite you; but again, that's just my opinion, no disrespect intended. 🙂
 
^^^ dude serende's arguement is so weak. It makes no ssense.



Hahaha, according to people on this forum, I wasted 200,000. Vandy costs 52K a year.

If you spent $200,000 on undergrad, you're even dumber than your original post lead me to believe. :laugh:
 
I hate it when...people assume that since I went to a no-name school that I didn't work my butt off for the grades I got. Just because you think you worked hard and didn't get the payoff you wanted...You chose to attend Vandy so deal with the competitive courses and students.

The clever students figure out how to get the possible grades for their application. If that means taking the pre-reqs at a local state during the summer, so be it.
 
I hate it when people say they that where you go for undergrad doesn't make a difference. For example, then, why do kids at top schools (ie top 20 schools) have such high acceptance rates to medical schools? 80-90 percent of the pre-meds at Vanderbilt/Emory/Rice/Cornell/etc with a 3.5+ and a 30+ mcat score got into medical school. At some crappy school, I am sure that 80-90 percent of the kids with 3.5s will NOT be making it into medical school. As a result, Medical school adcoms understand how rigorous the classes are at top schools.


I guess my viewpoint may be biased because I am a Vanderbilt student who has to deal with extremely tough classes, while my friends at state schools easily make As without working hard. I struggled to keep a 3.53 here my first semester (I was taking 2 intro science classes where the average is a C/C-.) I made an A/A-/A-/B- in my classes but I had to work like 5 hours a day outside of class to do it

I hate when people at Vanderbilt think they go to a "top" school.
 
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