I have a uterus.

[mokamadness]

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How many times have I wanted to just paste that statement into the 'diversity' question inevitably asked on secondaries?

Probably hundreds.

 

[YouNeverKnow22]

in b4 the lock? maybe?

 

[Depakote]

How many times have I wanted to just paste that statement into the 'diversity' question inevitably asked on secondaries?

Probably hundreds.

That doesn't make you unique as you might think. I'd venture to say that ~50% of my med school class has one. If you had uteri then that would definitely be unique.

 

[bruceleehiiiyaa]

stupid joke.

 

[mokamadness]

That doesn't make you unique as you might think. I'd venture to say that ~50% of my med school class has one. If you had uteri then that would definitely be unique.

I know that being female doesn't add to the diversity of any medical class, save maybe mili-med classes. I was just venting a little on the fact that most of the time, the answer to this question is bs; most of us have traveled, are fluent in two languages, and have a nationality that is not directly European.

Yeah, having uteri would be awesome. Then I’d definitely have something great to put for the answer to the diversity question. 😀

 

[austinap]

I know that being female doesn't add to the diversity of any medical class, save maybe mili-med classes. I was just venting a little on the fact that most of the time, the answer to this question is bs; most of us have traveled, are fluent in two languages, and have a nationality that is not directly European.

Yeah, having uteri would be awesome. Then I’d definitely have something great to put for the answer to the diversity question. 😀

Soo... you're saying that being of European descent, never having traveled, and speaking only one language will bring diversity! Awesome! 🙄

 

[vandyam]

Soo... you're saying that being of European descent, never having traveled, and speaking only one language will bring diversity! Awesome! 🙄

Lol, I'm right there w/ you -- awesome indeed ^.^

 

[Naijaba]

I know that being female doesn't add to the diversity of any medical class, save maybe mili-med classes. I was just venting a little on the fact that most of the time, the answer to this question is bs; most of us have traveled, are fluent in two languages, and have a nationality that is not directly European.

Yeah, having uteri would be awesome. Then I'd definitely have something great to put for the answer to the diversity question. 😀

I'm confused, you really think the norm is that applicants have traveled, speak more than one language, and are not European? I don't think any of those are the norm.

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

 

[austinap]

I'm confused, you really think the norm is that applicants have traveled, speak more than one language, and are not European? I don't think any of those are the norm.

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

Only the cute ones. Besides, sometimes I need the distraction.

 

[mokamadness]

Soo... you're saying that being of European descent, never having traveled, and speaking only one language will bring diversity! Awesome! 🙄

Not what I mean at all. Just that probably half of those who are applying are going to list those things in their 'diversity' statement. Since being part of the 50% of people who have a uterus doesn't increase diversity, how do the other 'diverse' experiences that 50% of applicants are going to list (myself included, though I don't consider them to be that extraordinary) in that area actually increase overall diversity of the student population?

I'm confused, you really think the norm is that applicants have traveled, speak more than one language, and are not European? I don't think any of those are the norm.

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

I do think those are common traits for many applicants. Maybe not to be fluent, but to have used the Spanish learned in high school while traveling through Mexico.

Do girls distract men from learning by wearing skimpy clothes?! I'd believe it! 😛 Maybe not intentionally, but that would be an interesting psychological experiment!

 

[austinap]

Not what I mean at all. Just that probably half of those who are applying are going to list those things in their 'diversity' statement. Since being part of the 50% of people who have a uterus doesn't increase diversity, how do the other 'diverse' experiences that 50% of applicants are going to list (myself included, though I don't consider them to be that extraordinary) in that area actually increase overall diversity of the student population?

Well, I was kidding.

Seriously though, I think there's a difference between doing something that actually *may* broaden your perspective compared to just something you are. It didn't require any effort for you to have a uterus, but it does require at least some degree of effort to go see the world and try to understand things from a different perspective. These experiences may not be 'diverse' as compared to the pool of med school applicants, but you'd be surprised how many people have never even wanted to go see the world, let alone had the motivation to go do it.

 

[mokamadness]

Well, I was kidding.

Seriously though, I think there's a difference between doing something that actually *may* broaden your perspective compared to just something you are. It didn't require any effort for you to have a uterus, but it does require at least some degree of effort to go see the world and try to understand things from a different perspective. These experiences may not be 'diverse' as compared to the pool of med school applicants, but you'd be surprised how many people have never even wanted to go see the world, let alone had the motivation to go do it.

Yeah, I know what you mean. It's just hard to answer that question without bringing 'what you are' into it. URM/socioeconomic disadvantage/ etc., all of those are what you were born with, so its weird that being a white female with a broad background would be increase diversity less than the other factors. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the type of diversity that disadvantaged/URM students bring too!

So, here's to my diversifying uterus 🙂 (just kidding...)

 

[Mashizhao]

I'm confused, you really think the norm is that applicants have traveled, speak more than one language, and are not European? I don't think any of those are the norm.

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

Only those who look. Some of us are too busy.

 

[olemissbabydoc]

I have a uterus and a brain. I choose to use both. (the answer I give to anyone who questions my decision to enter medicine and want to parent too).

 

[YouNeverKnow22]

I have a uterus and a brain. I choose to use both. (the answer I give to anyone who questions my decision to enter medicine and want to parent too).

love your avatar I'm considering neonatology as a specialty, the only other specialty that interests me other than sugery (which is my top choice as of now).

 

[long]

I have a uterus and a brain. I choose to use both. (the answer I give to anyone who questions my decision to enter medicine and want to parent too).

Because women who choose to stay home with their kids are just mindless dolts that never use their brain, right?.

👎

 

[bruceleehiiiyaa]

Because women who choose to stay home with their kids are just mindless dolts that never use their brain, right?.

👎

i dont know about you...but its hard work man. calculating the cost of diapers and **** IN YOUR MIND..thats hard.

 

[NJDIF]

haha i love these.

the diversity question is such a crock of BS on those applications.

for one school that i applied to on a whim, i put down that since i was white, i set a "norm" by which diversity can then exist in the first place. i wrote that i was so white, that anyone standing next to me is "diverse" by comparison and without white males like me, there can be no environment to "diversify"

for the sake of this story, ill have the ending be that i got in to said schools with a full scholarship.

 

[mokamadness]

haha i love these.

the diversity question is such a crock of BS on those applications.

for one school that i applied to on a whim, i put down that since i was white, i set a "norm" by which diversity can then exist in the first place. i wrote that i was so white, that anyone standing next to me is "diverse" by comparison and without white males like me, there can be no environment to "diversify"

for the sake of this story, ill have the ending be that i got in to said schools with a full scholarship.

You might just be my new hero. 😀

 

[MossPoh]

I always found the fact that to be diverse, one can't be a white male kind of irritating. There is so much to diversity. Within every community there are tons of different kinds of people. Those essays were always such a load. I've heard of places touting themselves as "80% diverse". What the hell does that mean?

 

[casillas]

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

wow

 

[olemissbabydoc]

Because women who choose to stay home with their kids are just mindless dolts that never use their brain, right?.

👎

negative! I think its wonderful to stay home with your kids - I hope I have the opportunity, at least for a little bit..

(its just you normally hear people say you want to be a doctor AND a mother, like its some insane idea)

 

[JeetKuneDo]

diversity is overrated.

 

[MaryLennox]

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

excellent . . . if this is true, i'm going to band together with all the girls in my (future) med school class to wear skimpy outfits on exam days in order to distract dudes and drop the curve. 👍👍

 

[olemissbabydoc]

hahah. for real. weigh in guys. I see shortshorts and halters in my future for exam days 🙂

 

[austinap]

excellent . . . if this is true, i'm going to band together with all the girls in my (future) med school class to wear skimpy outfits on exam days in order to distract dudes and drop the curve. 👍👍

I vote in favor of this. Just be aware that it could work in your disadvantage: if you get one uggo in your group to wear skimpy outfits, I won't want to look up from my test a bit.

 

[long]

negative! I think its wonderful to stay home with your kids - I hope I have the opportunity, at least for a little bit..

(its just you normally hear people say you want to be a doctor AND a mother, like its some insane idea)

Ok. The way you said it just sounded like it could be construed that you think motherhood is a mindless, inane task.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

.

 

[sunset823]

I vote in favor of this. Just be aware that it could work in your disadvantage: if you get one uggo in your group to wear skimpy outfits, I won't want to look up from my test a bit.

*snort* love it, so true - I, for one, would be one of those who wouldn't want to display myself in short shorts/skirts and halters, which would likely RAISE the curve - oh, and the fact that by the time exams roll around I'll be in dank 40ish degree weather

 

[Naijaba]

In order to provide you with some context, I went to UC Irvine..."the only UC in the OC" (ick). It's less of a joke when scantily clothed females actually are distracting during exams.

 

[MaryLennox]

*snort* love it, so true - I, for one, would be one of those who wouldn't want to display myself in short shorts/skirts and halters, which would likely RAISE the curve - oh, and the fact that by the time exams roll around I'll be in dank 40ish degree weather

ok, well when it's cold we will just all wear thin shirts with no bras. is seeing nipple distracting??

 

[ButImLETired]

Well, I was kidding.

Seriously though, I think there's a difference between doing something that actually *may* broaden your perspective compared to just something you are. It didn't require any effort for you to have a uterus, but it does require at least some degree of effort to go see the world and try to understand things from a different perspective. These experiences may not be 'diverse' as compared to the pool of med school applicants, but you'd be surprised how many people have never even wanted to go see the world, let alone had the motivation to go do it.

I totally agree. I find it really interesting when people on this website get stumped by the diversity question, cause they're "just white" or "just asian". I'm biracial, trilingual, have grown up in a few different countries, and I didn't mention it in my diversity essays. It's not what makes me different from everyone else, because at least as far as my race is concerned, it's just what I was born to be, which isn't interesting. What makes me diverse isn't my race or background, it's my opinions and interests and unique perspective. You are your own advocate- if you don't think you're different from the mass of pre-meds applying, first of all I feel sorry for you (do you REALLY only like medicine, research, volunteering, and shadowing? Really?!) and second I'm worried you won't be able to convince anyone else you're worthy of a second look. The last thing you want to be in this process is a wallflower.

 

[xmsr3]

haha i love these.

the diversity question is such a crock of BS on those applications.

for one school that i applied to on a whim, i put down that since i was white, i set a "norm" by which diversity can then exist in the first place. i wrote that i was so white, that anyone standing next to me is "diverse" by comparison and without white males like me, there can be no environment to "diversify"

for the sake of this story, ill have the ending be that i got in to said schools with a full scholarship.

As a white male who grew up in an upper middle class suburb I hate these questions with a passion. I have seen this question twice and here is what I was forced to put down.

I am a member of a religious minority, secular humanist, which I explain in very flowery language and proceed to try to use to show my dedication to helping others.

In reality, secular humanist=liberal atheist,(not really a religion at all) which is a risk to admit to, especially in uber religious America, but what can I do? The very question reeks of affirmative action and implies that, having representatives of every race, religion and ethnicity will somehow make us a better school.

Well maybe if everyone was from a different background and a different perspective, but since most pre-meds are essentially middle class bio majors, that theory dosn't hold water.

If we all take the same classes and we all have a strong work ethic and a desire to help others, then what does it matter what race, religion or gender you are?

What you are born as, or into, doesn't add to diversity, except in a quota system(which is just racism pure and simple). Its your experiences and world views that determine diversity.

I just hope the fact that I mentioned something I chose to believe and that influences my world view, gives me some points considering that most people will talk about gender or race.

 

[austinap]

As a white male who grew up in an upper middle class suburb I hate these questions with a passion. I have seen this question twice and here is what I was forced to put down.

I am a member of a religious minority, secular humanist, which I explain in very flowery language and proceed to try to use to show my dedication to helping others.

In reality, secular humanist=liberal atheist,(not really a religion at all) which is a risk to admit to, especially in uber religious America, but what can I do? The very question reeks of affirmative action and implies that, having representatives of every race, religion and ethnicity will somehow make us a better school.

Well maybe if everyone was from a different background and a different perspective, but since most pre-meds are essentially middle class bio majors, that theory dosn't hold water.

If we all take the same classes and we all have a strong work ethic and a desire to help others, then what does it matter what race, religion or gender you are?

What you are born as, or into, doesn't add to diversity, except in a quota system(which is just racism pure and simple). Its your experiences and world views that determine diversity.

I just hope the fact that I mentioned something I chose to believe and that influences my world view, gives me some points considering that most people will talk about gender or race.

It might just be me, but my guess is that adcoms would see the the 'secular humanist' line immediately. Is there really nothing else about you that makes you unique? I don't think it's necessary that you spend a year in Africa working at an AIDS clinic, but there has to be something about you that's interesting. What has shaped your perspective thus far? Any interesting hobbies?

 

[xmsr3]

It might just be me, but my guess is that adcoms would see the the 'secular humanist' line immediately. Is there really nothing else about you that makes you unique? I don't think it's necessary that you spend a year in Africa working at an AIDS clinic, but there has to be something about you that's interesting. What has shaped your perspective thus far? Any interesting hobbies?

This is why I hate these kinds of questions. Because they ask us to say why we are unique.

BUT the fact is that, though every person is unique to the extent that no one else believes exactly as they do, NO ONE IS TRUELY UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT THE QUESTION IS WORDED! Remember that you are unique, just like everybody else!

What do I believe? Pretty much the same as most pre-meds or I wouldn't be applying? Any interesting hobbies? Well I love politics, running, reading, which describes a lot of people.

The only unique thing about me is that my entire world view was shaped by Star Trek, (which also inspired me to go into military medicine). After falling in love with that show I started thinking how cool it would be if the real world was like the federation. When my friends pointed out that the federation was a socialist utopia I had no choice but to admit that I had been wrong, (up to that point I was a hard core conservative) and start working towards a world where everyone has equality of oppertunity to maximize their potential and no one starves, is homeless or goes without healthcare.

That belief is what drove me into military medicine, the desire to live in near socialist system where the basic essentials of life are guaranteed to all in exchange for performing one's duties.

BUT HOW CAN I PUT THAT IN AN ESSAY! IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

Heck even if I just included the part about the military and how it epitomisizes my ideals, I would still be running the risk of pissing off a conservative adcom.

Which is why all essays suck! Our fates can be decided based on the subjective gut feeling of some stranger who dosn't know us and could interprete our essay to mean something we didn't intend.

And everytime we are rejected we have no idea why! All that second guessing can drive a person mad!

 

[austinap]

This is why I hate these kinds of questions. Because they ask us to say why we are unique.

BUT the fact is that, though every person is unique to the extent that no one else believes exactly as they do, NO ONE IS TRUELY UNIQUE IN THE SENSE THAT THE QUESTION IS WORDED! Remember that you are unique, just like everybody else!

What do I believe? Pretty much the same as most pre-meds or I wouldn't be applying? Any interesting hobbies? Well I love politics, running, reading, which describes a lot of people.

The only unique thing about me is that my entire world view was shaped by Star Trek, (which also inspired me to go into military medicine). After falling in love with that show I started thinking how cool it would be if the real world was like the federation. When my friends pointed out that the federation was a socialist utopia I had no choice but to admit that I had been wrong, (up to that point I was a hard core conservative) and start working towards a world where everyone has equality of oppertunity to maximize their potential and no one starves, is homeless or goes without healthcare.

That belief is what drove me into military medicine, the desire to live in near socialist system where the basic essentials of life are guaranteed to all in exchange for performing one's duties.

BUT HOW CAN I PUT THAT IN AN ESSAY! IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

Heck even if I just included the part about the military and how it epitomisizes my ideals, I would still be running the risk of pissing off a conservative adcom.

Which is why all essays suck! Our fates can be decided based on the subjective gut feeling of some stranger who dosn't know us.

And everytime we are rejected we have no idea why! All that second guessing can drive a person mad!

Hey, that sounds unique to me. Also, I'd highly doubt that anyone going into military medicine would be able to piss off a 'conservative' adcom. I might rephrase the star trek stuff to sound a little less 'trekky', but I'm sure there's a way to make that work.

 

[xmsr3]

Well, ok If I am ever faced with the diversity question again I will use the military medicine idea, but I only have 6 secondaries inbound and 2 of them don't have essays, and 2 that do don't ask about diversity. So it is probably a moot point.

Of course the 2 schools that did ask about diversity/minority status were Duluth and Hopkins, not schools I was counting on getting into anyways, so its not as if my answer will cost me my dreams of Army medicine.

 

[long]

The only unique thing about me is that my entire world view was shaped by Star Trek,

BUT HOW CAN I PUT THAT IN AN ESSAY! IT SOUNDS ABSOLUTELY NUTS!

LOL! This is fantastic. I think you should use it anyway.

 

[mokamadness]

The only unique thing about me is that my entire world view was shaped by Star Trek

I would definately give your app a second look if I read that Star Trek has been the most influential idea in your life!

 

[austinap]

Well, ok If I am ever faced with the diversity question again I will use the military medicine idea, but I only have 6 secondaries inbound and 2 of them don't have essays, and 2 that do don't ask about diversity. So it is probably a moot point.

Of course the 2 schools that did ask about diversity/minority status were Duluth and Hopkins, not schools I was counting on getting into anyways, so its not as if my answer will cost me my dreams of Army medicine.

Duluth just wan't to hear that you'll work with under served populations. Duluth is *not* a diverse town. It's a beautiful town, but at least racially, they have to settle for very little diversity.

 

[neuro1986]

(uterus didelphys)

should I mention this to demonstrate my diversity?

of course, I'd hope they didn't ask me to prove it in my interview...

 

[thinker]

That doesn't make you unique as you might think. I'd venture to say that ~50% of my med school class has one. If you had uteri then that would definitely be unique.

it will definitely make her unique if she was a male with a uterus

 

[DrAnteater]

How many times have I wanted to just paste that statement into the 'diversity' question inevitably asked on secondaries?

Probably hundreds.

don't put down uterus put down vagina it catches the eye more 👍

 

[RogueUnicorn]

i FULLY support the decision of any lovely lady who wishes to distract me by sexual means.

 

[DrAnteater]

i FULLY support the decision of any lovely lady who wishes to distract me by sexual means.

This can go either way. If I were to apply to a gynecology residency which supposedly is primarily female, I would put down that the diversity I could bring comes from the fact I have a penis.

 

[MrBurns10]

As a side question, do you think girls distract males from learning? I think it's true, especially during summer when girls wear less. Opinions?

Sometimes that can be a good thing. Remember in Saved by the Bell when Zack Morris got a 1502 on the SAT while being distracted the whole time by a cute (by 90s standards) female? And everyone knows SBTB was based on a true story.

 

[Chemdude]

Sometimes that can be a good thing. Remember in Saved by the Bell when Zack Morris got a 1502 on the SAT while being distracted the whole time by a cute (by 90s standards) female? And everyone knows SBTB was based on a true story.

The definition of "cuteness" differs by era? Please elaborate....

 

[Chemdude]

If I started a thread called "I have a scrotum", it would have been closed by now...

Discrimination at its worst...

 

[MrBurns10]

The definition of "cuteness" differs by era? Please elaborate....

80s hot:

2009 hot:

Yes. Small difference.

 

[futureboy]

80s hot:

2009 hot:

Yes. Small difference.

Hot it hot. Only the hair styles and wardrobe change...