I have been told that podiatry students sit for USMLE

[obdurate]

Is this true or a fabrication?

I would like to get a definitive answer to settle an academic dispute.

Some podiatry students are insisting that their first two years are identical to medical school and can opt to take the USMLE Part I.

Is this true?


Thank you

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[Instatewaiter]

Is this true or a fabrication?

I would like to get a definitive answer to settle an academic dispute.

Some podiatry students are insisting that their first two years are identical to medical school and can opt to take the USMLE Part I.

Is this true?


Thank you

No they cannot. They take a different exam called the APMLE. You have to go to an ACGME or AOA accredited school or get EFMG certified (ie go to an internation MEDICAL school) to take the USMLE.

 

[kwel]

Is this true or a fabrication?

I would like to get a definitive answer to settle an academic dispute.

Some podiatry students are insisting that their first two years are identical to medical school and can opt to take the USMLE Part I.

Is this true?


Thank you

They take APMLE, but you're right that their first two years are a lot like med school. Same with dental and pharm school. I have seen podiatry students studying First Aid though, so who knows.

 

[obdurate]

They take APMLE, but you're right that their first two years are a lot like med school. Same with dental and pharm school. I have seen podiatry students studying First Aid though, so who knows.

I graduated med school in the 1980s (MD) and have a less than favorable knowledge of how the field was back then. From time to time podiatrists would approach us to join our group and we declined. Recently a podiatrist has requested to join us (multi-specialty), and claims that their education and training has "evolved" and is similar to MD/DO. I realize they are not full body physicians, but can not get a good read on how podiatry training has developed because the sources vary. The physician sites do not list podiatry among their ranks for chat purposes and I prefer not to waste too much time vetting a provider that could be a potential source of confusion. The podiatry threads on this site are vague, immature and seem to be sponsored. Any experience with working with podiatrists in a clinical setting would be helpful, or a source of information NOT generated by podiatrists for references. Thank you.

 

[gibbman]

As for our boards, podiatry students take the APMLE steps 1, 2 and 3, the tests themselves are somewhat different than the USMLE. As where the USMLE is case vignettes the APMLE is more just questions based on facts, for example what nerve innervates this muscle, or what medication has its action on X. Many students use first aid to study, because First Aid covers everything that we are tested on for the APMLE (biochem, pharm, lower extremity anatomy, general anatomy, micor, phys, and path). Podiatry school is almost identical to a traditional MD or DO school for the first year or two depending on the podiatry school you attend. At Des Moines University, we attend almost all the same classes as the DO students and are graded on the same scale. The only exception the first year is that we as podiatry students take intro to podiatric medicine and the DO students take history of medicine and OMM. Our second year consists of systems courses just as the DO program, but we take lower limb anatomy (after having taken general anatomy), and more podiatry specific courses. Our third and fourth year is spent on rotations just like our DO counterparts, we rotate through private practice and internal medicine, but our other rotations are more geared towards podiatry. After 4 years of podiatry school we perform a three year residency, which depending on the residency you place into grants you training in forefoot, rearfoot, and ankle treatment qualification. Podiatrists have full privileges to admit and operate at most if not all hospitals.

 

[Textbookversion]

I graduated med school in the 1980s (MD) and have a less than favorable knowledge of how the field was back then. From time to time podiatrists would approach us to join our group and we declined. Recently a podiatrist has requested to join us (multi-specialty), and claims that their education and training has "evolved" and is similar to MD/DO. I realize they are not full body physicians, but can not get a good read on how podiatry training has developed because the sources vary. The physician sites do not list podiatry among their ranks for chat purposes and I prefer not to waste too much time vetting a provider that could be a potential source of confusion. The podiatry threads on this site are vague, immature and seem to be sponsored. Any experience with working with podiatrists in a clinical setting would be helpful, or a source of information NOT generated by podiatrists for references. Thank you.

It depends on the school. The one in our state they take all the basic science classes with med students, have their own clinical classes and then do rotations mainly with podiatrists but I think they may also do a medicine and surgery rotation in a med student slot.

I think that's basically the standard approach now for podiatry although I'm by no means an expert. They also have 3 year surgical residencies now with board exams and stuff.

 

[Trastuz]

I worked with a podiatry student on my medicine rotation at the VA. One day the attending was pimping him on what the CHADS2 score was. His response: "cardiac...., heart....., um..... aches... drugs....." The attending stopped him before he could finish. I really liked the kid actually, but it was hands down one of the funniest days I've had during med school.

I have no idea what they study but if it's the same stuff as us their level of comprehension (from my n=1 experience) is no where close to the same.

 

[arez10]

I worked with a podiatry student on my medicine rotation at the VA. One day the attending was pimping him on what the CHADS2 score was. His response: "cardiac...., heart....., um..... aches... drugs....." The attending stopped him before he could finish. I really liked the kid actually, but it was hands down one of the funniest days I've had during med school.

I have no idea what they study but if it's the same stuff as us their level of comprehension (from my n=1 experience) is no where close to the same.

At my school, we had a 5 month long class on Internal Med taught by an internist, but I promise you I have never learned this score. I cannot control what breadth of info my curriculum contains. Sadly, I'm sure that student was mortified even thought it wasn't his/her fault and yet you consider that one of the funniest days you've had during med school...maybe try some humility.

 

[Trastuz]

At my school, we had a 5 month long class on Internal Med taught by an internist, but I promise you I have never learned this score. I cannot control what breadth of info my curriculum contains. Sadly, I'm sure that student was mortified even thought it wasn't his/her fault and yet you consider that one of the funniest days you've had during med school...maybe try some humility.

A: It was funny because instead of saying "I'm not familiar with this score" like you just did, he fabricated random words to fill in the mnemonic.

B. It is healthy to learn to laugh at yourself.

C. I didn't laugh at him. Even I think that would be rude and unprofessional. But I can't help that it was really funny.

D. Case in point. If you did 5 months of internal medicine and never heard of CHADS2 it is clear that your curriculum is not equal to that of any med student's.

 

[yehhhboiii]

I don't understand why people who have never been to medical school try so hard to convince us that their curriculum is basically the same.

 

[flodhi1]

At my school, we had a 5 month long class on Internal Med taught by an internist, but I promise you I have never learned this score. I cannot control what breadth of info my curriculum contains. Sadly, I'm sure that student was mortified even thought it wasn't his/her fault and yet you consider that one of the funniest days you've had during med school...maybe try some humility.

Humor is a level 4 mature defense mechanism classified by Valliant. I bet you they didn't teach you that in Podiatry school

 

[music2doc]

Humor is a level 4 mature defense mechanism classified by Valliant. I bet you they didn't teach you that in Podiatry school

Level 5, my man, it's the one and only level 5 defense mechanism (at least according to our class syllabus at the school we both attend).

5. Level V:

• Humor, openly expressing feelings and ideas without hurting

Although everywhere else I look Level 5 doesn't appear to exist, so maybe they were just spewing B.S.

 

[heybrother]

I'm loath to post in this forum, but the individual who started this thread isn't looking for answers. He's a longtime forum troll (banned repeatedly) who runs a forum exclusively dedicated to badmouthing podiatry and posting insanity. Below are two of his recent posts in our forum. The posts he has made in this forum are posted word for word on his other forum. Thanks.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=13651870&postcount=31
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showpost.php?p=13653477&postcount=37

 

[feet2017]

This is coming from someone that will be entering pod school this upcoming fall. If the curriculums were exactly the same then we wouldn't be earning a DPM degree would we....

In response to the OPs question about integration with "medical school" I am not sure if you consider D.O. medical school or only M.D., no insults to the D.O.'s WesternU,midwestern, DMU, and i believe rosalind franklin all have integration to some degree. possibly temple university as well, but i am not sure. level of integration wise westernU has the highest level with basically 2 years, besides OMM obviously. DMU and midwestern also has a relatively high level of integration as well. for DMU it is about 1.75/2.00 years, i am not sure about midwestern to be exact.

In regards to USMLE, I don't know why any pod student would even take it. There is no purpose.

 

[Traum]

"There's no purpose (for podiatry students) to take the USMLE? You are joking correct?
You can be similar to, or almost as, apes and humans are similar also, however, at the end of the day, very different.

Are you a physician or a foot dentist? Are you caring for in-house patients, physician title, or just a foot, detritus removals, elective procedures, or dealing with trauma, or complex pathophysiology of wounds, CXC, IL-12, IL-8 etc... this is real. This is medicine. This requires physicians. Not non medical school trained, non physicians.

The time to step up is ever more impt with the massive changes coming...DNPs, PAs, NPs, IMGs. and then....there's the DPM that cannot give a flu shot due to scope issues

Why not expand and play a real role in medicine/health care and part of ACA/ACOs? There was some parity talk last year in CA for podiatrists w/AMA, CMA, AOA, AOFAS--however, have not heard anything since. Anyone know what happened?


Taking the USMLEs would be an awesome start.

Why not progress forward, IF your podiatry training classes are similar/identical to medical school, then take the USMLE and excel on the exam to prove your physician level status. Perhaps, that would help solidy the chest thumping of "physician" and "parity" etc... No short cuts in life son.

CHAD2 is basic. The fact that a podiatry student did not know this, speaks volumes, and hence, why they are relegated to the foot and sometimes ankle depending on whatever state they are in.

One day, these pod students may attend school rotations, hospital residency--the USMLE would critically evaluate at a tertiary level the medical science acumen to clinical situtations and prove that their knowledge is at a MD level.

Why not take the high road? FOr over 250K+ in podiatry training school debt, some of these students deserve a lot better than the CHADS2 example. There are many more embarrassing examples to elucidate, however, suffice to say......no back door.

If they are physicians--prove it.

 

[jellybean2020]

Attention:

Traum is a known troll in the podiatry forums. He has a failed past in podiatry and remains extremely bitter it. He spends his time making new usernames posing as various premeds/pod students/MD's/DPM's/etc. Sometimes he'll even make accounts to reply to his own posts.

His posts are easy to identify to podiatry forum regulars, since he pulls these stunts on a weekly basis. We're used his antics. You guys probably aren't. Please don't be fooled.

On a happier note, Happy Valentines everyone!

 

[Law2Doc]

They take APMLE, but you're right that their first two years are a lot like med school. Same with dental and pharm school. I have seen podiatry students studying First Aid though, so who knows.

FWIW, I have a friend who completed podiatry school and subsequently enrolled in an allo med school. He was given no credit for any courses previously taken, so apparently his med school didn't consider the basic science training equivalent.

 

[PatchAdamsFan]

Of course he wouldn't get credit. Whereas the courses may be similar, or even the same in some instances, it is hard to find parity between classes of different doctoral programs (not to mention the legal ramifications).

 

[flodhi1]

Level 5, my man, it's the one and only level 5 defense mechanism (at least according to our class syllabus at the school we both attend).



Although everywhere else I look Level 5 doesn't appear to exist, so maybe they were just spewing B.S.

I laughed when I read about "Level 5". I'm going to stick with humor being in level 4.

 

[The kitchen sink]

okay simple question.

why don't they make podiatry a residency that you can apply to from an MD or DO school?

 

[music2doc]

okay simple question.

why don't they make podiatry a residency that you can apply to from an MD or DO school?

Because, well, would YOU consider doing just feet after all the work you've done for your MD? I know I wouldn't. I did a foot/ankle workshop to get my hands, err feet, dirty. That was enough for me. I prefer medicine personally. That's why I went to medical school (i.e., not podiatry school, dental school, pharmacy school, optometry school, etc.).

 

[PatchAdamsFan]

A fair opinion, but that remark inadvertently insults just about every autonomic MD/DO specialty there is.

 

[The kitchen sink]

Because, well, would YOU consider doing just feet after all the work you've done for your MD? I know I wouldn't. I did a foot/ankle workshop to get my hands, err feet, dirty. That was enough for me. I prefer medicine personally. That's why I went to medical school (i.e., not podiatry school, dental school, pharmacy school, optometry school, etc.).

fair point. that's the reason i entered medical school as well but I figured podiatry was a field created back in the day as a separate, autonomous group of practitioners before the development many of the surgical fellowships we have today and that is why it continues to be a seperate field today? disclaimer - this is an assumption im making with absolutely no background info so please correct me if im wrong

Basically ill pose another question, would it not make more sense to lets say enter a gen surg residency and upon completion do a fellowship in foot surgery and then practice as a general surgeon / foot surgeon as you please?

 

[kwel]

Because, well, would YOU consider doing just feet after all the work you've done for your MD? I know I wouldn't. I did a foot/ankle workshop to get my hands, err feet, dirty. That was enough for me. I prefer medicine personally. That's why I went to medical school (i.e., not podiatry school, dental school, pharmacy school, optometry school, etc.).

That's really dumb to say. Ever heard of subspecialties? Lots of those require medical school. I don't see how podiatry is any different than other medicine subspecialties that focus on one specific organ

 

[WhovianDO]

That's really dumb to say. Ever heard of subspecialties? Lots of those require medical school. I don't see how podiatry is any different than other medicine subspecialties that focus on one specific organ

Aren't there hand surgeon specialties? Same thing, right? Lol

 

[music2doc]

That's really dumb to say. Ever heard of subspecialties? Lots of those require medical school. I don't see how podiatry is any different than other medicine subspecialties that focus on one specific organ

Umm... note: working on feet doesn't require med school. I did med school. Why would I do med school if my primary interest were foot-specific? (Now, a better example for you to use would be opto vs optho, but even then I would only do med school if there were something opthos could do that I wanted to be able to do but optos couldn't do it.)

 

[Rendar5]

okay simple question.

why don't they make podiatry a residency that you can apply to from an MD or DO school?

Foot & Ankle Surgery actually is a subspecialty of orthopedics, iirc. . As an ED doc referring people out, I will refer mid and forefoot injuries, diabetic ulcers, and toenail issues out to both doctors and podiatrists depending on a patient's comfort level. I don't refer directly to the subspecialists, though, I refer to the orthopedic groups that will then ensure that my patient is seen by the appropriate subspecialist in the practice.

 

[Rendar5]

Aren't there hand surgeon specialties? Same thing, right? Lol

Hand and spine are the two major subspecialities that are shared by orthopedists with other specialties (plastics and neurosurg). Foot is ortho specific.

EDIT: Actually now that I think about it, sports is shared by ortho, FM, IM, and EM.

 

[Borrow]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

 

[jellybean2020]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

4 of the 9 podiatry schools have DO programs and share classes/faculty. Here's one example:

http://www.dmu.edu/pm/curriculum/

The basic science courses for podiatric medical students are the same as for students in the Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) program. Students also take the same exams and are held to same standards which further promotes interdisciplinary professional education.

Btw Borrow I totally shared your skepticism, but I've come to understand it's a matter of stepping up your game (whether that means cutting out distractions, or getting your study habits in gear). Most are forced to, and those that still don't...well they crash and burn out of school.

Also, I earnestly wish that none of the 9 programs would admit applicants with the stats you posted. (I had a 3.65 and a 29 myself and could have gone to most DO schools I'd like to think). Unfortunately it's mostly a matter of supply and demand. The current level of training in pod school (and afterwards once you're in surgical residency) far outstrips general public awareness of the profession. Raising admission criteria would mean a massive plunge in applicant numbers that no school is willing to take. Instead they're willing to do with higher attrition rates and hope students step their game up once they're in.

 

[Textbookversion]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

Well the reality is GPA is reflection of past behavior (so it doesn't necessarily say much about future behavior) and MCAT is more a reflection of intelligence (which isn't all that important for the first two years).

You could be dumb as a brick as long as you sit in your apartment staring at the slides for long enough you can get at least a C. I think it's pretty common to have a graduation rate of ~80% so there is definitely attrition.

n=1 the podiatry person I know seems sharp. But those MCAT averages are absurd.

 

[Food]

I don't understand why everyone on here is being such an ******* to Podiatry and podiatry students. I'm on my IM rotation and I've had a podiatry student, a pharmacy student, and a PA student rotate for brief amounts of time with our team. Yeah - not everyone knows what a CHADS or CHADS2 score is. Some med students don't know it either. At the end of the day, the podiatry student had a lot to teach me about interpreting extremity x-rays for signs of osteomyelitis, etc. They are pretty good at wound care too. The pharmacy students are incredibly valuable. Honestly, I've been impressed with how willing all the non-medical students are to help me out. I can ask them a question about something I don't know (antibiotic dosing for patients on hemodialysis) and they will print out nice, concise resources for me to look at. And podiatry students don't take the USMLE just like nurses with 35+ years of experience can't take the USMLE. I don't think they should, either.

 

[Food]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

Well I hate to burst your bubble, but I had a 38 MCAT and got destroyed on the USMLE by people who had 27 on their MCAT. I would say success in medical school is 95% stubborn, hard work and 5% intelligence. My MCAT demonstrates better "intelligence" given an equal mastery of material. The reason I suffered on the USMLE was because I wasn't able to work as hard or consistently as the people who did better than I did. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Medicine is rigorous because of volume of information, not complexity. Put a person with a 22 MCAT in some linear algebra classes, and you'll see them suffer.

 

[Ferocity]

lol one of these threads again...

successful troll is successful.

 

[The kitchen sink]

Well I hate to burst your bubble, but I had a 38 MCAT and got destroyed on the USMLE by people who had 27 on their MCAT. I would say success in medical school is 95% stubborn, hard work and 5% intelligence. My MCAT demonstrates better "intelligence" given an equal mastery of material. The reason I suffered on the USMLE was because I wasn't able to work as hard or consistently as the people who did better than I did. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Medicine is rigorous because of volume of information, not complexity. Put a person with a 22 MCAT in some linear algebra classes, and you'll see them suffer.

I wholeheartedly agree this post. Medical school is defined by how hard you are willing to work. I know people with low MCATs that absolutely murdered the USMLE. It's quite a testament to how determined these individuals are and how far hard work can get you.

 

[Trastuz]

I don't understand why everyone on here is being such an ******* to Podiatry and podiatry students. I'm on my IM rotation and I've had a podiatry student, a pharmacy student, and a PA student rotate for brief amounts of time with our team. Yeah - not everyone knows what a CHADS or CHADS2 score is. Some med students don't know it either. At the end of the day, the podiatry student had a lot to teach me about interpreting extremity x-rays for signs of osteomyelitis, etc. They are pretty good at wound care too. The pharmacy students are incredibly valuable. Honestly, I've been impressed with how willing all the non-medical students are to help me out. I can ask them a question about something I don't know (antibiotic dosing for patients on hemodialysis) and they will print out nice, concise resources for me to look at. And podiatry students don't take the USMLE just like nurses with 35+ years of experience can't take the USMLE. I don't think they should, either.

Agree with this. Like I said, I liked the podiatry student I worked with. I just thought it was really funny when he acted like he had korsakoff syndrome. All I was trying to point out is that their education is not the same as ours. Just like a pharmacist's is not the same as ours and just like ours is not the same as an MBA.

Who cares what their GPA/MCAT was. They know a lot of stuff we don't and if you go through your life thinking no one can teach you anything if they're not MD/DO you're going to have a crappy career.

 

[level]

I don't understand why people who have never been to medical school try so hard to convince us that their curriculum is basically the same.

Agree.

 

[obiwan]

Well I hate to burst your bubble, but I had a 38 MCAT and got destroyed on the USMLE by people who had 27 on their MCAT. I would say success in medical school is 95% stubborn, hard work and 5% intelligence. My MCAT demonstrates better "intelligence" given an equal mastery of material. The reason I suffered on the USMLE was because I wasn't able to work as hard or consistently as the people who did better than I did. We all have strengths and weaknesses. Medicine is rigorous because of volume of information, not complexity. Put a person with a 22 MCAT in some linear algebra classes, and you'll see them suffer.

i hope then that you are now working harder

 

[flodhi1]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

"The basic science courses for podiatric medical students are the same as for students in the Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine (D.O.) program. Students also take the same exams and are held to same standards which further promotes interdisciplinary professional education."

http://www.dmu.edu/pm/curriculum/

Attrition rate for Podiatry school is almost triple that of medical school (no surprise).

With that being said. I still highly doubt that the class average for the Podiatry students is higher than the medical students lol just saying.

 

[kwel]

i have a hard time believing the notion that podiatry students take the SAME (or very similar) classes as medical students. it defies logic that podiatry schools would have average gpa's of 3.1 and 21 mcats having anything over a 5% graduation rate if the classes had the same rigor. most medical students scored 3.7+ and 30+ and have to work their butt off to keep their head above water in these classes.

I don't see why you have a hard time believing they take the same classes.. if you think med school classes are hard then I feel very bad for you. Sure, it's a lot of info, but it's not HARD. I think with time, lots of reading, and a good memory most people can get through med school. It's really no different than doing an undergrad bio major, except with higher volume of info. And without a GPA on the line med school is a self-motivated cakewalk compared to undergrad. It's getting IN to med school that's hard.

 

[yehhhboiii]

I don't see why you have a hard time believing they take the same classes.. if you think med school classes are hard then I feel very bad for you. Sure, it's a lot of info, but it's not HARD. I think with time, lots of reading, and a good memory most people can get through med school. It's really no different than doing an undergrad bio major, except with higher volume of info. And without a GPA on the line med school is a self-motivated cakewalk compared to undergrad. It's getting IN to med school that's hard.

Props on the whole being super smart thing.

 

[kwel]

Props on the whole being super smart thing.

99% of med students pass their classes. I'd hardly call that a rigorous curriculum

 

[Aclamity]

I don't see why you have a hard time believing they take the same classes.. if you think med school classes are hard then I feel very bad for you. Sure, it's a lot of info, but it's not HARD. I think with time, lots of reading, and a good memory most people can get through med school. It's really no different than doing an undergrad bio major, except with higher volume of info. And without a GPA on the line med school is a self-motivated cakewalk compared to undergrad. It's getting IN to med school that's hard.

lol I agree. sounds like Borrow has some issues
with biochem, which is just about the most mindless
course in med school as long as you can stomach
all those details.

 

[Borrow]

lol I agree. sounds like Borrow has some issues
with biochem, which is just about the most mindless
course in med school as long as you can stomach
all those details.

i dont even know what this means. you're saying biochem is easy if you can handle memorizing the trillion little details? of course its easy to figure out, that's not what makes medical school difficult. with your logic anatomy is the easiest medical school course we take because its just mindless memorization if you can stomach all those little details

 

[kjamess]

gotta love the pod fan boys

 

[jellybean2020]

Let's close this thread shall we? The OP is a throwaway account made by a known troll from the podiatry forums. He made this thread to fling poop around. Don't play into it. You guys are awesome, we're awesome. Everybody's awesome. Let's go home

 

[Aclamity]

i dont even know what this means. you're saying biochem is easy if you can handle memorizing the trillion little details? of course its easy to figure out, that's not what makes medical school difficult. with your logic anatomy is the easiest medical school course we take because its just mindless memorization if you can stomach all those little details

meaning it doesn't require much conceptual thinking, like physics or engineering or ochem does. In general biology is just a bunch of memorization. Granted, it's quite an undertaking to study the details, but medicine is one of those things where your performance is proportional to the # of hrs you study. Can't say the same for the aforementioned subjects. Not trying to burst your bubble, I just disagree that podiatry students would fail out of med school. Just because you didn't get a 3.7+/30+ doesn't mean you can't handle med school

 

[level]

Let's close this thread shall we? The OP is a throwaway account made by a known troll from the podiatry forums. He made this thread to fling poop around. Don't play into it. You guys are awesome, we're awesome. Everybody's awesome. Let's go home

Awesome, if someone does not agree that podiatry school and medical school are equivalent in basic science training they are trolls, or insulting podiatry, non-awesome and we should go home because you awesomely said so. Furthermore I should believe the OP was not valid and consider podiatry as a bonafide medical specialty, and since we are all awesome, my opinion would be awesome. Thank you for your awesome and clearly well informed advice. I suspect podiatry studies to be awesomely awesome for those who could not get into medical school and not on par with the MD curriculum (I can not address the DO curriculum, only went to MD school). Have an awesome day. I suppose you should be referring to me as an awesome troll. Awesome. So I guess that according to your logic the USMLE I should be offered to podiatry students but is awesomely not because - no awesome or rational answer. This would certainly clarify any misunderstanding and all could live awesomely ever after.

 

[level]

I don't understand why people who have never been to medical school try so hard to convince us that their curriculum is basically the same.

This, according to Jellybean2020, would be an "awesome" statement.

When can we expect podiatry to be an ABMS medical specialty?

 

[jellybean2020]

This, according to Jellybean2020, would be an "awesome" statement.

When can we expect podiatry to be an ABMS medical specialty?

Why am I getting the feeling you're the OP again with a new account? Listen, nobody is claiming that podiatry school is equal to MD/DO school. 4 out of 9 pod school simply share many of the same pre-clinical classes in their curriculum. Which is actually a fact, not my opinion. That's all that was said. Nothing more. No posturing was made, no bragging was done. Stop trying to stir up dissension please.