I have the worst luck....

[Marenda87]

SO i thought this would never happen to me! I was at work and my father called me. He told me I was denied from Ferris state universitity. I was disappointed and asked why . He said because I didnt send my transcripts in. I clearly remembered sending them in Nov. to reach the Jan 31 deadline. So i called the school and to make a long story short THEY FORGOT TO SEND THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!! The director of the school called Ferris and told them my story and sent an email. It was good Friday so nobody was in the office. Do yuo guys think Ferris will reconsider my application because it was not my fault?

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[RNtoPharmD]

I have a similar incidence when the school I applied lost my PCAT score and sent me a rejection letter. Finally, they asked Harcourt to resend the score overnight and reconsider my file for an interview. Contact the school ASAP. They can reverse the decision during this time before they makes final decision for acceptance/denial

I applied to Ferris too. I didn't even check if they received all my stuffs. They never send us anything to warn you if you missed anything. So I think it's not your fault

 

[eelo]

SO i thought this would never happen to me! I was at work and my father called me. He told me I was denied from Ferris state universitity. I was disappointed and asked why . He said because I didnt send my transcripts in. I clearly remembered sending them in Nov. to reach the Jan 31 deadline. So i called the school and to make a long story short THEY FORGOT TO SEND THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!! The director of the school called Ferris and told them my story and sent an email. It was good Friday so nobody was in the office. Do yuo guys think Ferris will reconsider my application because it was not my fault?

How is this not your fault? I understand that you didn't make the initial error, but the only person in any position to make sure your file was correct and complete was you, and you failed to do that. Ferris State, and any other school, is unlikely to 'reconsider' your application because there are many, many people who DID take the steps to ensure that their application(s) were full and complete. You should have followed up before the closing date to make sure all the information was received, and not depended on others to take care of things for you. This is graduate professional school.

The inability or unwillingness to ensure an application is full and complete is the first stop in dumping out unqualified applicants. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the application, there is some sort of statement to the effect that "...incomplete applications will not be considered for admission," or something like that. That's where your application, and possibly many others, got put into the No pile.

This is a learning experience for you- next year, you need to show all your prospective schools that you are willing and able to take the steps required of you. And you absolutely should NOT cry "It's not my faaaaaauuuuuuullllttttttt!!!!!"

I'm sure this sounds harsh, but there is no excuse for an incomplete application at the graduate school level.

 

[tangentlink]

How is this not your fault? I understand that you didn't make the initial error, but the only person in any position to make sure your file was correct and complete was you, and you failed to do that. Ferris State, and any other school, is unlikely to 'reconsider' your application because there are many, many people who DID take the steps to ensure that their application(s) were full and complete. You should have followed up before the closing date to make sure all the information was received, and not depended on others to take care of things for you. This is graduate professional school.

The inability or unwillingness to ensure an application is full and complete is the first stop in dumping out unqualified applicants. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the application, there is some sort of statement to the effect that "...incomplete applications will not be considered for admission," or something like that. That's where your application, and possibly many others, got put into the No pile.

This is a learning experience for you- next year, you need to show all your prospective schools that you are willing and able to take the steps required of you. And you absolutely should NOT cry "It's not my faaaaaauuuuuuullllttttttt!!!!!"

I'm sure this sounds harsh, but there is no excuse for an incomplete application at the graduate school level.

How is this his fault? He entrusted an institution to complete its job to send a transcript to his desired pharmacy school and it failed to do so, so it is his fault? While I do agree that he should have verified that his school sent his transcript, he should not be blamed for his school's insufficiency.

We all trust desired services to complete their jobs and thats what they should do. If I purchase a plane ticket to travel for a certain date and it is canceled by the airline on the day of departure, is it my fault I couldn't get to my destination on time?

 

[tharper14]

Just call the school asap and explain the situation. My application was cancelled because I didn't apply for undergraduate studies at my school for Fall 08 (it's required) but I had applied and got in for Spring 08. I had talked to one of the adcoms and he specifically told me that I didn't need to apply again for Fall 08. Well of course he was wrong (well it was more of a misunderstanding), my app was cancelled and I called them as soon as I found out. Lucky I kept the email from the adcom and he was able to fix the whole situation.

My point is, many adcoms are understanding, they understand that these things happen and if they haven't made a final decision, they may be willing to still consider your application. Just call them first thing Monday.

 

[AggiePharmer]

I agree with tharper, but would like to add that if Ferris gives you a hard time about your situation, and doesn't seem willing to budge, just remember that you're evaluating their program as much as they're evaluating your file. I'm not suggesting that you withdraw your candidacy, but if their adcom ISN'T understanding about this, and you somehow fought your way through the ad-com to secure an offer...

would you still accept an offer from their program knowing that their bad (in not informing you otherwise) may negatively weigh on my subconscious for the next four years?

Good luck!

 

[RNtoPharmD]

This is a learning experience for you- next year, you need to show all your prospective schools that you are willing and able to take the steps required of you. And you absolutely should NOT cry "It's not my faaaaaauuuuuuullllttttttt!!!!!"

IMO,this partially school's fault. I have applied to 13 schools. I probably won't spend time hunting down each single one of them to make sure they received all needed stuffs. Some schools don't even pick up the phone or answer any e-mail/voicemail. How would you think if > 1,000 applicants call them to ask once in a while if they need more documents. Their phone would keep ringing all days. .. I would consider myself emphathetic for not calling them too often. And They even post this on their website:
March 18, 2008: The total number of applicants this year is750. Letters of admission should be sent out in mid April after all files have been reviewed and the admissions formula has been finalized by the Admissions Committee. Phone/email inquiries asking us how far along we are only slows the entire evaluation process down. Please be patient with us.


If they don't at least e-mail/call/mail/notify me regarding the missing documents BEFORE the final decision, I would consider my file complete. If they don't want to notify him/her for any missing documents, they should at least has online tracking system to allow applicants to monitor the status of their file!! Yes, if he/she forgot to request transcript, then it's totally her fault. However, the poster requested it.

Thanks for posting. I'm gonna give Ferris State a buzz tomorrow to bother them to see if they receive all documents🙂

 

[UES Girl]

SO i thought this would never happen to me! I was at work and my father called me. He told me I was denied from Ferris state universitity. I was disappointed and asked why . He said because I didnt send my transcripts in. I clearly remembered sending them in Nov. to reach the Jan 31 deadline. So i called the school and to make a long story short THEY FORGOT TO SEND THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!! The director of the school called Ferris and told them my story and sent an email. It was good Friday so nobody was in the office. Do yuo guys think Ferris will reconsider my application because it was not my fault?

I don't want to sound harsh but you should blame no one but yourself - How in the world did you never make sure that the school receive your transcripts ? 😱😱😱

Sure in the ideal hypothetical situation evertying would go fine - but in the real world acciedents happen and it is YOUR responsibility as an applicant to make sure everything is ok. You can't just let things go with the flow and assume everything would be fine. Call me crazy but I have actually made sure my transcripts would be sent twice - just in case if something got lost. It cost me 6 ! extra dollars and took a half hour of my time but at least I made sure I wouldn't be rejected for some silly reason like that. I don't think the school should give you a second chance either - you couldn't even even bother yourself to make sure your transcripts were received properly.

 

[medicalCPA]

Welcome to the club of people with rotten luck. I was inducted earlier this month.

Seriously, though, I think you should call the admissions office. The worst they can tell you is "No."

 

[Marenda87]

Yes it is kinda harsh considering i sent three transcripts at the same time and called to see if they were sent. So I think it is NOT my fault the school is incompetent to send all 3 but end up sending only 2 transcripts and not the other oneone. I do not think you should judge my ablity in a graduate program by somebody elses mistake. Even the Director of registrar at the university admitted to me it was their mistake and he personally called the dean for me.

 

[mustang sally]

How is this not your fault? I understand that you didn't make the initial error, but the only person in any position to make sure your file was correct and complete was you, and you failed to do that. Ferris State, and any other school, is unlikely to 'reconsider' your application because there are many, many people who DID take the steps to ensure that their application(s) were full and complete. You should have followed up before the closing date to make sure all the information was received, and not depended on others to take care of things for you. This is graduate professional school.

The inability or unwillingness to ensure an application is full and complete is the first stop in dumping out unqualified applicants. I'm pretty sure that somewhere in the application, there is some sort of statement to the effect that "...incomplete applications will not be considered for admission," or something like that. That's where your application, and possibly many others, got put into the No pile.

This is a learning experience for you- next year, you need to show all your prospective schools that you are willing and able to take the steps required of you. And you absolutely should NOT cry "It's not my faaaaaauuuuuuullllttttttt!!!!!"

I'm sure this sounds harsh, but there is no excuse for an incomplete application at the graduate school level.

I wish you the best of luck in convincing Ferris to reconsider your application; however, I have to agree with eelo on this one. It might have been the school's mistake but ultimately you are the one who is responsible to make sure your application is complete. Next time I would call Ferris (or whatever school) instead of the registrar's office.

 

[eelo]

Yes it is kinda harsh considering i sent three transcripts at the same time and called to see if they were sent. So I think it is NOT my fault the school is incompetent to send all 3 but end up sending only 2 transcripts and not the other oneone. I do not think you should judge my ablity in a graduate program by somebody elses mistake. Even the Director of registrar at the university admitted to me it was their mistake and he personally called the dean for me.

The situation you are is absolutely your fault. While you were not the one who failed to send the transcripts, you were the only one who was in a position to determine if everything was received, and you failed to do that. You called to verify they were sent, but you didn't think to check to see if they were received? That seems a little.... odd. Are you saying that you think the undergrad institution should have followed up to ensure that YOUR transcripts were received? Why should they do that? That certainly adds expense to the process, and I don't want to have to pay more than a few dollars for transcripts simply because you don't feel it's your responsibility to do your homework.

What concerns me about your ability to function in a graduate program is your repeated failure to take personal responsibility for your own actions (or in this case, inactions). It's not up to the institution to ensure your package is complete; it's up to you. It's your future, not theirs.

This is life in the grown-up world; get used to it and stop trying to place blame for your personal situation on something outside your control. This was absolutely, completely within your control and the fact that you failed to maintain control doesn't make it someone else's fault. The title of your thread says a lot: you're whining about 'bad luck.' LUCK has nothing to do with it--- the people who got admitted over you did their jobs and took 'luck' out of the equation as much as they could. Part of that was ensuring their package was complete. You need to do everything you can to make sure your stuff is straight; it's not anyone else's job to go behind you and get your stuff together.

Consider this to be a learning experience. Don't fail yourself next year.

 

[FallingStar1717]

The situation you are is absolutely your fault. While you were not the one who failed to send the transcripts, you were the only one who was in a position to determine if everything was received, and you failed to do that. You called to verify they were sent, but you didn't think to check to see if they were received? That seems a little.... odd. Are you saying that you think the undergrad institution should have followed up to ensure that YOUR transcripts were received? Why should they do that? That certainly adds expense to the process, and I don't want to have to pay more than a few dollars for transcripts simply because you don't feel it's your responsibility to do your homework.

What concerns me about your ability to function in a graduate program is your repeated failure to take personal responsibility for your own actions (or in this case, inactions). It's not up to the institution to ensure your package is complete; it's up to you. It's your future, not theirs.

This is life in the grown-up world; get used to it and stop trying to place blame for your personal situation on something outside your control. This was absolutely, completely within your control and the fact that you failed to maintain control doesn't make it someone else's fault. The title of your thread says a lot: you're whining about 'bad luck.' LUCK has nothing to do with it--- the people who got admitted over you did their jobs and took 'luck' out of the equation as much as they could. Part of that was ensuring their package was complete. You need to do everything you can to make sure your stuff is straight; it's not anyone else's job to go behind you and get your stuff together.

Consider this to be a learning experience. Don't fail yourself next year.

OK I think he gets it. He screwed up, his university screwed up. Next time hopefully he'll follow up. I think everyone can lay off now. Don't need any more near-identical posts rubbing it in.

 

[miawww]

You should definitely contact the school about it immediately if you haven't done so. It couldn't hurt to try. Just make sure to be diplomatic and polite. I had something kind of similar to this happen in January actually but it was with UCSF in my case. The situation was a little different and I won't go into details anymore but I was glad I contacted them because I got an interview offer after the whole thing. Whether I actually got into the school is still unknown though. So I wish you good luck!

 

[Marenda87]

Thanks. Yes I did contact the University and I am in the applicant pool again. They understood the situation, and were more than happy to accomidate. And FYI Ferris does not like applicants calling to see if they got their application so eelo im sorry your point still does not apply to my situation.

 

[Avelox]

I doubt anyone here actually calls every school to make sure they get basic ****... I mean sure if the school offers an online way to check your status I'm sure you would but I HIGHLY anyone calls EACH School to check if they got required material like transcripts.

 

[pharmrose]

Excuse my ignorance on the issue, but is Ferris a non-pharmcas school?
I asked since pharmcas usually updates the status of transcripts and test scores sent to your designated schools. I don't call the schools personally since you always get mass emails from them telling you not to call to check your status. So I checked pharmcas every time something had to be sent out.
I'm glad you were able to solve this problem.

 

[aboveliquidice]

My school - instead of sending official transcripts - sent a proof of enrollment sheet. It listed everyone of my classes - it did not list any grades... A quick conversation with the office of graduate admissions (and my old school's registrar) fixed the problem in less than 2 days. Good luck to you...

As has already been said - Hindsight is 20/20 - now you know, just don't let it happen to you again.

~above~

 

[Andromeda7]

Thanks. Yes I did contact the University and I am in the applicant pool again. They understood the situation, and were more than happy to accomidate. And FYI Ferris does not like applicants calling to see if they got their application so eelo im sorry your point still does not apply to my situation.

I'm glad to hear that! It's good that they're willing to work with you.

 

[Hels2007]

Yes it is kinda harsh considering i sent three transcripts at the same time and called to see if they were sent. So I think it is NOT my fault the school is incompetent to send all 3 but end up sending only 2 transcripts and not the other oneone. I do not think you should judge my ablity in a graduate program by somebody elses mistake. Even the Director of registrar at the university admitted to me it was their mistake and he personally called the dean for me.

While you are lucky Ferris was willing to put you back in the pool, I agree with eelo that it was pure goodwill on their part. Even if your undergrad school did send transcripts - remember that millions of pieces of mail get lost every year. What would be the excuse then?

My universal recipe is to request all documents to ME (in a sealed envelope, of course, in case of a transcript), which I put personally in a nice envelope and send with delivery confirmation, double-checking the address, and then check the delivery confirmation to make sure it was received.

 

[veerg]

The Schools that are in PharmCAS, you can check when they received the transcripts. I was checking daily until I knew they got them. Then I was checking to see when they sent them out to schools.

But in this case Ferris is not in PharmCAS and schools don't like calling them. So I totally sympathize with Marenda87...The sending school should do everything to call Ferris to explain. As said earlier, Ferris is being reasonable and understanding it.

 

[eelo]

Thanks. Yes I did contact the University and I am in the applicant pool again. They understood the situation, and were more than happy to accomidate. And FYI Ferris does not like applicants calling to see if they got their application so eelo im sorry your point still does not apply to my situation.

I wish you luck in achieving your goal.

But if you truly believe my point does not apply, I think you will have many more opportunities to prove/disprove that theory.

Really.... it's YOUR application. Who should care about it more than you? You demonstrated your level of concern. I hope things work out for you, but if they don't, I hope you open your eyes and learn from this situation.

I would not have accepted the excuse; you and anyone else who failed to follow up on this most important concern would have been rejected.

 

[PharmDnewb]

I'm surprised the pharmacy school didn't contact you about the problem before the deadline. When I applied to Northeastern and MCP-W, I sent in 2 LOR's in Nov. I sent in the rest of my application (forms, transcripts, other LOR's) separately in January. About a week before the deadlines, NEU and MCP emailed/mailed me that my application was incomplete because I was missing a LOR (the ones from Nov.) I called them and told them I sent the LOR's separately and everything was fine.

 

[apatel88]

SO i thought this would never happen to me! I was at work and my father called me. He told me I was denied from Ferris state universitity. I was disappointed and asked why . He said because I didnt send my transcripts in. I clearly remembered sending them in Nov. to reach the Jan 31 deadline. So i called the school and to make a long story short THEY FORGOT TO SEND THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!! The director of the school called Ferris and told them my story and sent an email. It was good Friday so nobody was in the office. Do yuo guys think Ferris will reconsider my application because it was not my fault?

How did your father know you got denied from Ferris State? They haven't sent out any admission letters or anything yet. Did your father call in and ask?

Glad to see that you got back into the pool though. Hope things work out for you.
How is your GPA and PCAT score if you don't mind sharing?

 

[Sparda29]

It wasn't your fault at all. Actually, I think you probably would have had a case for lawsuit against your school, in case Ferris decided not to reconsider your application.

Whenever I call up these schools asking if they've received stuff, they are like "I think so", no straight answers, etc.

Why is it so hard for these advisor's and admissions committees to give specific, definite answers for questions? I asked the pharmacy advisor at LIU if they consider LIU's GPA system or the PharmCAS system, she said, "just bring your grades up and it's the LIU system we look at".

Now, she turns around and says, "We look at the PharmCAS system, there are too many applicants out there for us to be looking at every single transcript."

 

[Hels2007]

It wasn't your fault at all. Actually, I think you probably would have had a case for lawsuit against your school, in case Ferris decided not to reconsider your application.

*dies laughing*

 

[UES Girl]

It wasn't your fault at all. Actually, I think you probably would have had a case for lawsuit against your school, in case Ferris decided not to reconsider your application.

Whenever I call up these schools asking if they've received stuff, they are like "I think so", no straight answers, etc.

Why is it so hard for these advisor's and admissions committees to give specific, definite answers for questions? I asked the pharmacy advisor at LIU if they consider LIU's GPA system or the PharmCAS system, she said, "just bring your grades up and it's the LIU system we look at".

Now, she turns around and says, "We look at the PharmCAS system, there are too many applicants out there for us to be looking at every single transcript."

Jesus Christ, are you for real ? Did you just come here from Mars ?

A lawsuit because of his own inability to simply check the most basic of things ? He had SEVERAL FREAKEN MONTHS to check if the school received his complete application. This is probably the first thing I have done - to make sure my complete application was received. He should feel lucky the school decided to reconsider him in the first place. But to consider lawsuit to me is as strange as seeing an alien in person. The longer I live here the more I believe that there are sure lots of people out there that like to sue left and right.

This thread has turned from amusing into simply painful to read.

 

[yazzman]

SO i thought this would never happen to me! I was at work and my father called me. He told me I was denied from Ferris state universitity. I was disappointed and asked why . He said because I didnt send my transcripts in. I clearly remembered sending them in Nov. to reach the Jan 31 deadline. So i called the school and to make a long story short THEY FORGOT TO SEND THEM IN!!!!!!!!!!! The director of the school called Ferris and told them my story and sent an email. It was good Friday so nobody was in the office. Do yuo guys think Ferris will reconsider my application because it was not my fault?

First of all dont listen to the people that say its your fault because it is not your fault...those people that thinks its your fault they can #@$!#@$ off.

PS>..if you ask for advice on this website your going to get a bunch of jerks who are negative going to put you down...keep your head up and fight...

 

[UES Girl]

First of all dont listen to the people that say its your fault because it is not your fault...those people that thinks its your fault they can #@$!#@$ off. You need to have the director of your old school write a letter and sending a copy of the transcript request form to Ferris State admission committee. IF that doesnt work, I would sue your college.

PS>..if you ask for advice on this website your going to get a bunch of jerks who are negative going to put you down...keep your head up and fight...keep us posted.

If he sues the school I swear I will sue him for making me laugh so hard I nearly peed my pants.

 

[yazzman]

If he sues the school I swear I will sue him for making me laugh so hard I nearly peed my pants.

pee your pants......👍....I did edit out that part of suing because I read he got accepted ...anyways...blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blahb

 

[sellout59]

yay for you! I wish UIC was as understanding

 

[PharmPrincess]

To be honest, it's actually the applicant's fault that she didn't double check on anything (supplemental applications, transcripts, supplemental $, the works). Every applicant should know what to send in and to make sure it was sent in. As a safe note, just send in everything twice (like your transcripts). its more hassle for the school to sort it out, but at least you'll have the peace of mind that the probability of your school not sending the transcripts are low (how can they miss a second request?). Just be vigilent. this is your future you're talking about.

 

[jspwinter]

Just a word of advice. There are many incompetent *****s working everywhere. If it's important to you, it ultimately falls on you to get it done and done right, unless you're a ***** too.