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[akhan4489]

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I am currently a senior attending high school in the United States (California). I know that i want to be an Orthopedic Surgeon in the future. My cousin from London recently visited me and totally shook up my world. She informed me that it is possible to jump right into medical school and complete it within 6 years in England and Ireland. Since then, i have been doing lots of research on my own and i am all for it. My troubles are:
--am i qualified?
--can i return to the states after the 6 years and will my education be recognized?
--when and how should i apply?
--what are the "good" medical schools in Europe?

If anyone can please answer any of these questions it will help me out a whole lot and i would greatly appreciate it!

Please give me all possible info. THANKS!!! (e-mail: [email protected])

 

[MikeyLu2010]

go to college.

 

[cyclegirl]

I 2nd that, stay in the US for college and then go to medical school here.

 

[It'sElectric]

I 2nd that, stay in the US for college and then go to medical school here.

Undergrad was awesome. Enjoy it while you can (if you can). There's no rush.

 

[erleichda]

I 2nd that, stay in the US for college and then go to medical school here.

third

 

[Hardbody]

I am currently a senior attending high school in the United States (California). I know that i want to be an Orthopedic Surgeon in the future. My cousin from London recently visited me and totally shook up my world. She informed me that it is possible to jump right into medical school and complete it within 6 years in England and Ireland. Since then, i have been doing lots of research on my own and i am all for it. My troubles are:
--am i qualified?
--can i return to the states after the 6 years and will my education be recognized?
--when and how should i apply?
--what are the "good" medical schools in Europe?

If anyone can please answer any of these questions it will help me out a whole lot and i would greatly appreciate it!

Please give me all possible info. THANKS!!! (e-mail: [email protected])

If you want to be an orthopod, it is HIGHLY unlikely that will happen if you go overseas to med school (you will be an FMG). You might also run into licensing problems due to no B.S. or B.A., so I wouldn't recommend it.

 

[MiesVanDerMom]

there are programs in the US where you can combine undergrad and med school and save a couple years. look into those maybe. i have no idea which schools offer them.

 

[erleichda]

there are programs in the US where you can combine undergrad and med school and save a couple years. look into those maybe. i have no idea which schools offer them.

that's a great suggestion for the OP. i know that BU and VCU have 7 year programs. and there are many others.

 

[Brooklyndo2.1]

also keep in mind that you are not likely prepared for medical school with an american hs education (on average that is)

I know several british grads who have had to at least redo residency, and not in fields as competative as ortho.

 

[pguin]

id kill to be back in my undergrad!..enjoy it while you can and use the time to strengthen your resolve to enter medicine. I dont know many med students who didnt want to go into medicine while in high school but I do know a lot of people who did want to go in high school but decided against it after college

 

[Hexanol]

that's a great suggestion for the OP. i know that BU and VCU have 7 year programs. and there are many others.

Penn State's 6 year accelerated medical program in conjunction with Jeffereson Medical School in Philly! Great program!

 

[DrHoffy]

HI,

If you are serious about the college/Doctor combined programs, then go to the AAMC website and order the MSAR. For Allopathic applicants it is the med school admissions bible as it lists all the MD programs and their stats. However, in addition to that it also has an entire chapter listing all the coombined programs in the US. I would start there. Your advisor may have a copy also, but here is a link to get you started:

https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...ion=Product.displayForm&prd_id=149&prv_id=175

Now, the sermon begins...as an "over 30" applicant I would say go to college, enjoy it, do some semesters abroad, volunteer and get a feel for the profession, learn about life, widen your perspective. Once you start med school your life will never be the same...so don't short yourself out of "life experiences". i have yet to meet someone who is the same person with the same needs(or career goals) at 17 as they are at 21, 25 or even 30.
So that is my 2 cents...take it or leave it.
Good luck with whatever you choose!

 

[MaximusD]

Yeah look into Penn State's Six Year Program w/ Jeff... we also have Hershey Med which will do early decision after your sophomore year if you maintain a certain GPA and the MCAT would be just for show...

 

[kiddingme]

It's highly unlikely that as a US high school grad you would be adequately prepared for medical school in the UK/Ireland. In the British education system we complete courses and sit the Cambridge A-Level exams. The content covered in those exams are equivalent to what you would study in a year of biology,physics, org.chem etc at college. So in that way we're on par with the pre-med college grads matriculating at schools here in the US.

As someone who has done both (A-levels and US college degree) I say that you should go to college, explore your options and ensure that medicine is the career for you!

 

[miasapearl]

Here are some osteopathic schools that offers BS/DO program.

University of Texas http://www.hsc.unt.edu/education/tcom/sevenyearprogram.cfm
NYCOM http://iris.nyit.edu/nycom/Admissions_BS_DO_Program.htm
COMP http://www.westernu.edu/xp/edu/joint_programs/linkage_pitzer.xml (with Pitzer)
http://www.westernu.edu/xp/edu/joint_programs/linkage_csusb.xml (with CSU San Bernardino)
UNE http://www.une.edu/com/admissions/programs.asp
MSUCOM http://www.com.msu.edu/admissions/scholars.html
NSU (I don't have a link for this)

Good luck on your journey.

 

[miasapearl]

Here is a list of schools that offer a joint BS/MD degree.

Albany Medical College
University of Florida College of Medicine
George Washington University School of Medicine and Health Sciences
Howard University College of Medicine
Jefferson Medical College of Thomas Jefferson University
University of Kentucky College of Medicine
University of Miami School of Medicine
Meharry Medical College
University of Nebraska College of Medicine
Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California
UMDNJ--New Jersey Medical School
Wayne State University School of Medicine
University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health
Brown Medical School
University of South Florida College of Medicine
Brody School of Medicine at East Carolina University
The Texas A & M University System Health Science Center College of Medicine
East Tennessee State University James H. Quillen College of Medicine
Dalhousie University Faculty of Medicine
Drexel University College of Medicine
Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
Temple University School of Medicine
Boston University School of Medicine
UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School
Stony Brook University Health Sciences Center School of Medicine
Tufts University School of Medicine
University of Connecticut School of Medicine
University of Rochester School of Medicine and Dentistry
University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Michigan State University College of Human Medicine
University of California, San Diego, School of Medicine
University of Cincinnati College of Medicine
Northwestern University, The Feinberg School of Medicine
Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine

 

[pguin]

It's highly unlikely that as a US high school grad you would be adequately prepared for medical school in the UK/Ireland. In the British education system we complete courses and sit the Cambridge A-Level exams. The content covered in those exams are equivalent to what you would study in a year of biology,physics, org.chem etc at college. So in that way we're on par with the pre-med college grads matriculating at schools here in the US.

As someone who has done both (A-levels and US college degree) I say that you should go to college, explore your options and ensure that medicine is the career for you!

The poor US educational system is always being made fun of! but just so you know us americans also are able to take biology, physics, and organic chemistry in high school also. I did and it was equivalent to some of my coursework in college but definately not all of it or even most of it. There is absolutely no way that a high school grad it the UK has the same educational knowledge as a US pre-med college grad, I don't care how good your educational system is.

In summary, I'm sure you could handle the program in the UK/Ireland - but go to college here and enjoy yourself

 

[harrypotter]

misapearl, always so thorough! 🙂

if you pick up a copy of msar, there's a chapter on combined college/MD programs

 

[kiddingme]

The poor US educational system is always being made fun of! but just so you know us americans also are able to take biology, physics, and organic chemistry in high school also. I did and it was equivalent to some of my coursework in college but definately not all of it or even most of it. There is absolutely no way that a high school grad it the UK has the same educational knowledge as a US pre-med college grad, I don't care how good your educational system is.

In summary, I'm sure you could handle the program in the UK/Ireland - but go to college here and enjoy yourself

i wasn't trying to make fun of the US system, just noting that each country would cater for their own system. by no means do high school grads in the UK equate with a college grad!

 

[pguin]

just noting that each country would cater for their own system.

good point!

 

[MJB]

First, I would recommend the 4 or 5 best years of your life, and then maybe a few more before Med School...

2nd, there are a few 4+2 programs here in the states...UMKC among them.