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Hello all,

I am a post-bac now taking my pre-reqs. I went to Cornell and did not apply myself coming out with roughly a 2.6+. I am doing very well in my post-bac and looking at a 4.0 over two years. Those 2 years will give me around 60 credits and at a 4.0 or close to it I can get my gpa up to about a 3.1. Should I continue to take classes to match my undergrad degree amount of 120? so I can get my gpa up even higher? Should I do an SMP afterwards? Should I get my masters?

These are all means for getting accepted into a US medical school. Id like to try and see if I can go allopathic US before I go DO or Caribbean.

THanks all!

 

[AllIn4Life]

There are people in similar situations as you who get around a 4.0 in post-bac and still end up in the Caribbean even with all the research/volunteering because it all comes down to one thing....the MCAT. Since your undergrad GPA was so low and you have rectified that during post-bac, you will need a strong MCAT...10s in each section to stand a chance at getting into a US allo med school. With a low MCAT score you can get into a DO school or Carib school with whatever stats you have now.

 

[JoeNamaMD]

Its nearly impossible for someone to get into medical school with less than a 3.0, at least one in the US.

 

[McGillGrad]

Your undergrad GPA is always considered separately than post-grad so the 2.6 will haunt you.

 

[oldpro]

Hello all,

I am a post-bac now taking my pre-reqs. I went to Cornell and did not apply myself coming out with roughly a 2.6+. I am doing very well in my post-bac and looking at a 4.0 over two years. Those 2 years will give me around 60 credits and at a 4.0 or close to it I can get my gpa up to about a 3.1. Should I continue to take classes to match my undergrad degree amount of 120? so I can get my gpa up even higher? Should I do an SMP afterwards? Should I get my masters?

These are all means for getting accepted into a US medical school. Id like to try and see if I can go allopathic US before I go DO or Caribbean.

THanks all!

Those 2 years will give me around 60 credits and at a 4.0 or close to it I can get my gpa up to about a 3.1.


Let make this crystal clear here, Your GPA is not 3.1, it's 2.6 and 3.9 or what ever in post Bac.

Your undergrad GPA is forever 2.6, you grad GPA is 3.9 whatever they are separate and seen as such, this can be a positive thing since it shows how hard and how well you can do.

 

[Meatwad]

Those 2 years will give me around 60 credits and at a 4.0 or close to it I can get my gpa up to about a 3.1.


Let make this crystal clear here, Your GPA is not 3.1, it's 2.6 and 3.9 or what ever in post Bac.

Your undergrad GPA is forever 2.6, you grad GPA is 3.9 whatever they are separate and seen as such, this can be a positive thing since it shows how hard and how well you can do.

No; all undergraduate coursework is considered undergraduate. Just because you took courses after your bachelor's degree does not make them part of a "grad GPA." There is an overall GPA calculation that contains all of your undergraduate coursework, which would be the 3.1. Yes, it is separated by year (Freshman, Sophomore, etc.), but that doesn't mean there isn't a spot where it is all calculated together.

Plus, seeing a 2.6 over four years followed by a 4.0 for two years separated might actually work in the OP's favor. I'd rather be though of as a reformed slacker than a mediocre student who could only pull Bs for six years.

 

[McGillGrad]

I agree that two great years will make a huge difference.

But, it is my understanding that the undergrad GPA usually stands alone. Meaning, the GPA on your transcript at graduation is considered on its own and then any extra work post-graduation is factored in to give an overall GPA.

No; all undergraduate coursework is considered undergraduate. Just because you took courses after your bachelor's degree does not make them part of a "grad GPA." There is an overall GPA calculation that contains all of your undergraduate coursework, which would be the 3.1. Yes, it is separated by year (Freshman, Sophomore, etc.), but that doesn't mean there isn't a spot where it is all calculated together.

Plus, seeing a 2.6 over four years followed by a 4.0 for two years separated might actually work in the OP's favor. I'd rather be though of as a reformed slacker than a mediocre student who could only pull Bs for six years.

 

[Meatwad]

I agree that two great years will make a huge difference.

But, it is my understanding that the undergrad GPA usually stands alone. Meaning, the GPA on your transcript at graduation is considered on its own and then any extra work post-graduation is factored in to give an overall GPA.

It is true that your GPA will be sliced and diced. For example, it could look like:

Freshman: 2.3
Sophomore: 2.5
Junior: 3.0
Senior: 3.2
Post-bacc: 4.0

Overall: 3.1

I believe true graduate coursework (not simply post-bacc) is factored into the OA GPA as well, but I could be wrong. It's pretty extraneous information to the OP, seeing as he has no graduate coursework, though.

 

[oldpro]

No; all undergraduate coursework is considered undergraduate. Just because you took courses after your bachelor's degree does not make them part of a "grad GPA." There is an overall GPA calculation that contains all of your undergraduate coursework, which would be the 3.1. Yes, it is separated by year (Freshman, Sophomore, etc.), but that doesn't mean there isn't a spot where it is all calculated together.

Plus, seeing a 2.6 over four years followed by a 4.0 for two years separated might actually work in the OP's favor. I'd rather be though of as a reformed slacker than a mediocre student who could only pull Bs for six years.

WHAT? Once you go into a Post Bac program the course work is no longer in the undergrad but Graduate level, how does graduate level work now become undergraduate? You are not in a Undergraduate program? Besides the people who have done this road have reported back that this is the case and how it was reviewed by the schools, Post Bac was a different GPA then undergraduate, and in some cases the Graduate work was 3.8 and the undergrad was 3.2 and they were turned down due to poor undergraduate GPA, check it out.

 

[Meatwad]

WHAT? Once you go into a Post Bac program the course work is no longer in the undergrad but Graduate level, how does graduate level work now become undergraduate? You are not in a Undergraduate program? Besides the people who have done this road have reported back that this is the case and how it was reviewed by the schools, Post Bac was a different GPA then undergraduate, and in some cases the Graduate work was 3.8 and the undergrad was 3.2 and they were turned down due to poor undergraduate GPA, check it out.

Any coursework taken after you complete a baccalaureate degree is post-baccalaureate. Therefore, taking undergrad courses a la carte at the local community college is post-bacc and undergraduate. This is not graduate coursework. I am 100% correct on this.

As for getting a 3.8 in a master's but still having a low undergrad GPA and thus being rejected, this is entirely possible and somewhat common. These people did not attempt and rectify their UG GPA with a post-bacc (UG post-bacc) first. The UG post-bacc raises your UG GPA. You are confusing terms here; post-bacc does not imply graduate work, although graduate work inherently implies post-bacc work.

I'll say it again: post-baccalaureate undergraduate course work, like the OP is taking, counts for undergraduate coursework not graduate coursework.

 

[McGillGrad]

Any coursework taken after you complete a baccalaureate degree is post-baccalaureate. Therefore, taking undergrad courses a la carte at the local community college is post-bacc and undergraduate. This is not graduate coursework. I am 100% correct on this.

As for getting a 3.8 in a master's but still having a low undergrad GPA and thus being rejected, this is entirely possible and somewhat common. These people did not attempt and rectify their UG GPA with a post-bacc (UG post-bacc) first. The UG post-bacc raises your UG GPA. You are confusing terms here; post-bacc does not imply graduate work, although graduate work inherently implies post-bacc work.

I'll say it again: post-baccalaureate undergraduate course work, like hte oP is taking, counts for undergraduate coursework not graduate coursework.

👍 This is my understanding, too.

 

[oldpro]

Any coursework taken after you complete a baccalaureate degree is post-baccalaureate. Therefore, taking undergrad courses a la carte at the local community college is post-bacc and undergraduate. This is not graduate coursework. I am 100% correct on this.

As for getting a 3.8 in a master's but still having a low undergrad GPA and thus being rejected, this is entirely possible and somewhat common. These people did not attempt and rectify their UG GPA with a post-bacc (UG post-bacc) first. The UG post-bacc raises your UG GPA. You are confusing terms here; post-bacc does not imply graduate work, although graduate work inherently implies post-bacc work.

I'll say it again: post-baccalaureate undergraduate course work, like the OP is taking, counts for undergraduate coursework not graduate coursework.

Sorry guess I misunderstood you, I agree 👍