ICO's Focus on Your Future Summer Program 2009

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ICO is hosting a summer program for underrepresented minority undergraduates interested in optometry. This is a good opportunity to get a good feel for optometry as well as ICO's program. Follow the link for more information. Please post about your experiences if you participated last year.

Focus on Your Future Summer Program
July 6th – 10th, 2009

The Focus on Your Future Summer Program is a weeklong program aimed at exposing underrepresented minority undergraduates to the profession of optometry and ICO. Participants will be exposed to ICO staff, faculty, students and alumni as well as the wonderful city of Chicago. The program includes:

Student and OD panels
Sample lectures of optometry courses
Overview of the Admissions Process
Career & Leadership Development
Clinical exposure


http://www.ico.edu/prospectivestudents/newsummerprogram.html
 
sounds good...i think they should make it more than just a week though...6 to 10th is barely.

I wish suny had something like this.
 
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Disclaimer: I have tried to phrase this as professionally as possible so as not to offend anyone. Please keep your responses professional in return.

What exactly is the point of this summer program? I honestly do not understand why "underrepresented minorities" should get a leg up over "non-underrepresented minorities" on learning about the university during a no-cost meet and greet with faculty before applying. It's baffling. I would love to meet the faculty of my future optometry school before I apply, just to get my name out to them.

I can only guess that this is a poor attempt at Equal Opportunity. What exactly is Equal Opportunity? Even Wikipedia doesn't have a clear definition as to what Equal Opportunity is. Wiki does say that it is "An approach intended to provide a certain social environment in which people are not excluded from the activities of society, such as education, employment, or health care, on the basis of immutable traits." Well, my whiteness is a pretty immutable trait, but I don't qualify for the no-cost ICO summer tour.

So what exactly qualifies as an "underrepresented minority?"

My curiosity drove me to contact ICO with the question "what exaclty is a minority?" I was replied with a seemingly politically correct email stating the following:
"ICO defines "minority" by ethnic background including - American Indian/Eskimo, Asian-American, Hispanic, African-American and multi-racial. We further define under represented minority as American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic and African-American."
I say "seemingly" politically correct becuse although they are attempting an Equal opportunity action, they are excluding people based on race, which is the opposite of what Equal Opportunity is supposed to do in the first place. If you are not American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic or African-American, you do not qualify as an "underrepresented minority" in the eyes of ICO.

Why was I not qualified to go meet ICO staff at no cost just because I am white? I am not racist. I am the opposite of racist. I believe every race deserves the same chance at something. So if that was the case, this summer program would be available at no cost to all people, regardless of race, minority or not.
People, we live in america now. Every single race of people in the world resides in this country and we are truly a melting pot of races. There is no minority or majority, only American. We are all American, and that's all that should count.

lol.

i guess whatever has occured in the past, to a particular race, determines whether or not they are a minority or not.
 
Unfortunately the fact is that schools do not practice equal opportunity. Underrepresented minorities do get a leg up...very unfair in my opinion.

BTW gochi please re-read adenosine's post. Despite quoting adenosine's entire post, you do not know the definition of a minority and an underrepresented minority.
 
Unfortunately the fact is that schools do not practice equal opportunity. Underrepresented minorities do get a leg up...very unfair in my opinion.

BTW gochi please re-read adenosine's post. Despite quoting adenosine's entire post, you do not know the definition of a minority and an underrepresented minority.

eh...i could care less.
 
Disclaimer: I have tried to phrase this as professionally as possible so as not to offend anyone. Please keep your responses professional in return.

What exactly is the point of this summer program? I honestly do not understand why "underrepresented minorities" should get a leg up over "non-underrepresented minorities" on learning about the university during a no-cost meet and greet with faculty before applying. It's baffling. I would love to meet the faculty of my future optometry school before I apply, just to get my name out to them.

I can only guess that this is a poor attempt at Equal Opportunity. What exactly is Equal Opportunity? Even Wikipedia doesn't have a clear definition as to what Equal Opportunity is. Wiki does say that it is "An approach intended to provide a certain social environment in which people are not excluded from the activities of society, such as education, employment, or health care, on the basis of immutable traits." Well, my whiteness is a pretty immutable trait, but I don't qualify for the no-cost ICO summer tour.

So what exactly qualifies as an "underrepresented minority?"

My curiosity drove me to contact ICO with the question "what exaclty is a minority?" I was replied with a seemingly politically correct email stating the following:
"ICO defines "minority" by ethnic background including - American Indian/Eskimo, Asian-American, Hispanic, African-American and multi-racial. We further define under represented minority as American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic and African-American."
I say "seemingly" politically correct becuse although they are attempting an Equal opportunity action, they are excluding people based on race, which is the opposite of what Equal Opportunity is supposed to do in the first place. If you are not American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic or African-American, you do not qualify as an "underrepresented minority" in the eyes of ICO.

Why was I not qualified to go meet ICO staff at no cost just because I am white? I am not racist. I am the opposite of racist. I believe every race deserves the same chance at something. So if that was the case, this summer program would be available at no cost to all people, regardless of race, minority or not.
People, we live in america now. Every single race of people in the world resides in this country and we are truly a melting pot of races. There is no minority or majority, only American. We are all American, and that's all that should count.

Last year, I applied. I am white. I was told that I wasn't accepted because it was for underrepresented minority. I was extremely upset. I took the time to get all the information, write the essay, get the recommendation, only to be rejected because of my skin color.

Then what made me even more upset was the fact after looking at the pictures, that I noticed some people who were white who were in attendance. This bother me, but you know what I got over it.

Anyways, if this helps anyone.
 
If you really want to go, just claim your race as whatever is necessary to be invited. It's race — one of the most absurdly abstract facts of society: in a way, you can say you are whatever you want to say you are, and claim anyone who questions you is being bigoted. Hey, Barack Obama's the first "black" president of the United States, but he's "multi-racial" himself, isn't he? What are they going to do, pull out a color wheel, hold it to your face, and tell you to go home? Come on...
 
I find that funny because it is true. How do you know for sure someone's race. I am Mexican, but I look white. A girl I know is Jewish, the only thing about her that is CLOSE to Mexican is her lst name (her dad was like 1/16 Mexican)--only identified with her Jewish side (in fact has said that she hated her Mexican last name), but when it came to applications for med school she decided to milk her Mexican last name for all it's worth. She got a full ride some where.

I went to the Berkeley opto camp, and it also said for minorities-- but they did accept white people. I think they also take into account if you are the first in your family to go higher in education or whatever...

to the person that saw the picture--you don't know if they really WERE white. I am Mexican, and I am very light skinned--people often think I am white. Therefore, you cannot base it on looks alone.
 
Disclaimer: I have tried to phrase this as professionally as possible so as not to offend anyone. Please keep your responses professional in return.

What exactly is the point of this summer program? I honestly do not understand why "underrepresented minorities" should get a leg up over "non-underrepresented minorities" on learning about the university during a no-cost meet and greet with faculty before applying. It's baffling. I would love to meet the faculty of my future optometry school before I apply, just to get my name out to them.

I can only guess that this is a poor attempt at Equal Opportunity. What exactly is Equal Opportunity? Even Wikipedia doesn't have a clear definition as to what Equal Opportunity is. Wiki does say that it is "An approach intended to provide a certain social environment in which people are not excluded from the activities of society, such as education, employment, or health care, on the basis of immutable traits." Well, my whiteness is a pretty immutable trait, but I don't qualify for the no-cost ICO summer tour.

So what exactly qualifies as an "underrepresented minority?"

My curiosity drove me to contact ICO with the question "what exaclty is a minority?" I was replied with a seemingly politically correct email stating the following:
"ICO defines "minority" by ethnic background including - American Indian/Eskimo, Asian-American, Hispanic, African-American and multi-racial. We further define under represented minority as American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic and African-American."
I say "seemingly" politically correct becuse although they are attempting an Equal opportunity action, they are excluding people based on race, which is the opposite of what Equal Opportunity is supposed to do in the first place. If you are not American Indian/Eskimo, Hispanic or African-American, you do not qualify as an "underrepresented minority" in the eyes of ICO.

Why was I not qualified to go meet ICO staff at no cost just because I am white? I am not racist. I am the opposite of racist. I believe every race deserves the same chance at something. So if that was the case, this summer program would be available at no cost to all people, regardless of race, minority or not.
People, we live in america now. Every single race of people in the world resides in this country and we are truly a melting pot of races. There is no minority or majority, only American. We are all American, and that's all that should count.

Alright, this is my first time posting because I just found this site today, however I'd like to present my own opinion. This is not meant to offend anyone and if I do, I apologize upfront.

The reason why there are programs like ICO's focus on your future program is because of privilege, institutionalized racism, and reparations that need to be met. White people in our society have "white privilege". Regardless if you want it or not, if you are aware or unaware, if you are white you have it. And in all forms of social, political, and economic contexts, white people are advantaged. I'm white and I am well aware but most don't even acknowledge their privilege because it makes them uncomfortable.

Yes, we all are American but that's not all that counts. The civil rights movement was less than 50 years ago and we're still fighting for civil rights for other Americans. Programs like ICO's try to help Americans who have had a history of neglect and disadvantage. A lot of minorities have parents that have migrated over and are first generation Americans. This next scenario is a generalization I know but I have worked with hundreds of youth that fit this. They have had to work multiple jobs to help their family get by, live in neighborhoods where the public education system is atrocious and not conducive to science and math backgrounds, have had to learn english, and aren't afforded a lot of the liberties that most middle class kids grow up with. If your dream was to go to college and someday become an optometrist, but you had to commute to a school that didn't give you a good basis for excelling in science classes and had to work right after school till evening, and then take care of your grandparents or other family members when you got home, hungry and tired and then have to study on top of all that. Is that equal?

Also, just because you are white doesn't mean that the program automatically rejects you. The person that saw white kids in the picture probably saw them because they are either first generation college students or they themselves or their parents or both collectively do not make an income enough to support them in their collegiate endeavors.

Just because your skin is white doesn't mean you have white privilege. Just because your skin is white doesn't mean you are "white". If you identify with a particular race, then you are part of it regardless of your skin color because like you said, its immutable.

I know we have an african-american president but racism still exists. And even if you identify as not racist or haven't seen it, it doesn't mean it isn't happening right now. It is still rampant in our society today.

I believe that programs like this are not only neccessary but vital for equality!
 
I have sent in my application for this program.

I think what some of you fail to realize (I don't know how), is that minorities are underrepresented in Optometry. The "old" days, optometry was filled w/ white males... Now it is white females.... although I do have to admit females in general... white, asian, indian, etc.

Any black males?? lol...

Well I am a black male... which for some reason, is very RARE in optometry.

I have all the experience in the world... Have actually gone on a SVOSH trip, and still cannot get into school. I'm going to blame it on my GPA... It sucks.. but I bust my BUTT, and this is something I actually want to do. It's not the "other" option for me, that some guys have b/c they couldn't get into medical school. This is my true passion.

I will be taking FULL advantage of this program, and WILL get into school this year... whether it be ICO, or whoever else...

I think MORE schools should have programs like this... PCO IMO has the best minority recruitment, and just so happens to be the only school I got an interview for... I applied to 3 others, and got nothing but a rejection letter. But i'm not bitter...

I mean I heard a lot of stories... I could be upset that I've heard from some OD's that they got in b/c their parents were OD's... Or that they got a great recommendation from the GOVERNOR of their state... How can I compete w/ that? lol...

But it's cool... Whether the program was there or not... I've gone back to school to retake classes that I got C's in.. and b/c of that ... I will get in... I'm confident... and one day will be accepted...

Sorry if this is a little all over the place, but I think for some of you to be upset that you can't experience this b/c of your race is crazy.

There are scholarships and grants that are based on simple things as race... Are you not mad about that either?

Relax.... It's a one week program... You won't be there... Sorry...

But I will... 👍
 
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