If every school accepted you, where would you go?

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accepted everywhere, where would you go?

  • Harvard

    Votes: 38 20.4%

  • Johns Hopkins

    Votes: 17 9.1%

  • Washington University in St Louis

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Northwestern

    Votes: 5 2.7%

  • Yale

    Votes: 8 4.3%

  • Stanford

    Votes: 7 3.8%

  • Mayo

    Votes: 11 5.9%

  • Pritzker

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Duke

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Oxford

    Votes: 3 1.6%

  • Cambridge

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Columbia

    Votes: 6 3.2%

  • Cornell

    Votes: 3 1.6%

  • Emory

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • Tufts

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • UPenn

    Votes: 8 4.3%

  • Mount Sinai

    Votes: 4 2.2%

  • NYU

    Votes: 2 1.1%

  • Baylor

    Votes: 3 1.6%

  • UPitts

    Votes: 1 0.5%

  • UMich

    Votes: 7 3.8%

  • UCSF

    Votes: 18 9.7%

  • UCLA

    Votes: 7 3.8%

  • Some other US school

    Votes: 30 16.1%

  • Some other school outside US

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Total voters
    186
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interesting ...


where will you go,

and please let us know why...

its perfectly fine if its for the prestige, or anything else you can think of... attractive ppl of the opposite sex... lol:laugh:


(this poll kinda intrigued by the comparison of harvard/jhu/washu somewhere else on the forums)
 
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What if I didn't apply to some schools, like Harvard or JHU?
 
I'll second the cheap state school. 👍 Plus, I really like my state school.

If cost wasn't a factor, I'd go for location and choose UVa. I love Charlottesville.

... now if I could just get an acceptance to either... Or, you know, an interview. 😏
 
Why no Vandy on the list?

I picked Pitt because I've visited the school and know it's a great fit for me.
 
nooo my poll results are being skewed. when i said accepted everywhere, i meant... EVERYWHERE ON THIS LISTTTTTTTTT!!

regardless of whether u applied to them this year (or ever before)!!!!!
 
bannie22 said:
nooo my poll results are being skewed. when i said accepted everywhere, i meant... EVERYWHERE ON THIS LISTTTTTTTTT!!

regardless of whether u applied to them this year (or ever before)!!!!!
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But what if some people aren't accepted to any of the schools on the poll? What do they put down? I think I put down "other" because I don't think I could get acceptances to the other ones listed... :meanie:
 
Johns Hopkins... dominant :meanie:
 
🙁 i meant if everybody was accepted everywhere in the world because ure the messiah of medicine. =(

hahahaha... and u had the pick of the world
 
brooklynblunder said:
LOL @ oxford and cambridge
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QFT. LMAO.

OP, you do realize that the UK has a COMPLETELY different way of educating their doctors than in the US? In the UK, usually premed and med school is combined into 6 or so years. Therefore, it is completely impractical for someone who is aspiring to practice in the US to do their undergrad here and then go to the UK for med school. And even if the two systems did work together in such a way that this was possible, it is much more difficult to match into a US residency as an FMG.
 
oxford cause i like to drink tea and hate going to the dentist 🙂
 
harvard. love the location. love the NP curriculum. right near my parents. annnnd... it's harvard, come on.

but i know i won't get in. so i have allowed myself to fall in love with several other schools (including my 2 cheap state schools!)
 
ChiDO said:
Pre-req for medical school should be 1-2 years in the real world working.
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i've been working for a couple of years in the "real world" and i'm still not afraid of debt. how you like me now.
 
dw2158 said:
i've been working for a couple of years in the "real world" and i'm still not afraid of debt. how you like me now.
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I believe that if you work in the real world and have the financial understanding of what it means to have to pay bills, rent, mortgage, loans, insurance, ect; then hopefully you have the knowledge capable of understanding what 200-400k debt means (to a certain extent).

I don't believe many pre-meds grasp the notion of what bills, mortgages, rent, ect mean when they've been told to just take out more loans or have parents help pay.
 
I believe I'd ultimately pick the school that gave me the best learning environment: geographically, culturally, and academically.

I like medicine, both in practice and in study, at a somewhat compassionate level - the schools that could allow me to connect with people the most would be high on my list.

I want med school to allow me to grow spiritually (not necessarily religiously) as well as academically. I'm somewhat sheltered in the mountains so I would want to branch out and see how others live while I study.

The prestige is just fluff to me... debt is going to happen one way or another and it wouldn't be a huge deciding factor for me.

It isn't obvious that I have a humanitarian type personality is it? :laugh:
 
ChiDO said:
I don't believe many pre-meds grasp the notion of what bills, mortgages, rent, ect mean when they've been told to just take out more loans or have parents help pay.
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I agree with you. However, I've yet to meet a practicing physician who has complained about being in debt. The school you choose, I feel, will ultimately play a huge part in what kind of physician you are in practice. Of course, those who are not impressionable may not capture this as much as others.

You're going to spend four years of your life devoting to studies and you may as well do it in an environment that you're comfortable with... even if it costs you another 60 grand. After all, if you're not comfortable and happy with the school, it's going to show, right?!
 
I'd be split between Cornell, Harvard and John H. But in the end I think I'd pick Harvard because of prestige. 🙂
 
ChiDO said:
I believe that if you work in the real world and have the financial understanding of what it means to have to pay bills, rent, mortgage, loans, insurance, ect; then hopefully you have the knowledge capable of understanding what 200-400k debt means (to a certain extent).

I don't believe many pre-meds grasp the notion of what bills, mortgages, rent, ect mean when they've been told to just take out more loans or have parents help pay.
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that may be true, but what i'm saying is that it's not the worst thing in the world to go into debt. both of my parents were paying off student loans until very recently, and i don't think i missed out on any important experiences or stuff growing up because they were soooo broke. yes, we had less money than some, but we were fine. my starting salary as a physician (even if i go into primary care, which i'm strongly considering) is probably going to be almost double my parents' combined income, so i don't care if a bit of that has to go towards student loans for the first chunk of my career. money is not the most important thing in the world. i'm going to pick the school where i'll be happiest, and finances will play a very minor role in this decision.
 
First Choice: Harvard
Second: Baylor
Third: UT Houston.
Then all the other schools I applied to.

Can you guess I live in the Houston area?

I am optimistic that I am competitive at UT Houston, so we'll find out in a few months.
 
UW- Consistently in the top 10, and a state school. Great campus, great city life, close to family and friends.
 
dw2158 said:
that may be true, but what i'm saying is that it's not the worst thing in the world to go into debt. both of my parents were paying off student loans until very recently, and i don't think i missed out on any important experiences or stuff growing up because they were soooo broke. yes, we had less money than some, but we were fine. my starting salary as a physician (even if i go into primary care, which i'm strongly considering) is probably going to be almost double my parents' combined income, so i don't care if a bit of that has to go towards student loans for the first chunk of my career. money is not the most important thing in the world. i'm going to pick the school where i'll be happiest, and finances will play a very minor role in this decision.
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well said🙂
 
First - UMich. I am absolutely in love with everything about the school and with Ann Arbor. I was so close to going there for undergrad but I decided that I would probably be more comfortable at a smaller school and I got a little more scholarship money from where I'm at now. Michigan is my favorite college football team BY FAR and I would give anything to be able to go to the football games. Plus, it's much easier to go snowboarding in Michigan.

Second - OSU. Not because I like the sports. I really don't like anything about that aspect. But it's close to home, and my boyfriend lives in Columbus so that would make everything sooo much easier.
 
dw2158 said:
that may be true, but what i'm saying is that it's not the worst thing in the world to go into debt. both of my parents were paying off student loans until very recently, and i don't think i missed out on any important experiences or stuff growing up because they were soooo broke. yes, we had less money than some, but we were fine. my starting salary as a physician (even if i go into primary care, which i'm strongly considering) is probably going to be almost double my parents' combined income, so i don't care if a bit of that has to go towards student loans for the first chunk of my career. money is not the most important thing in the world. i'm going to pick the school where i'll be happiest, and finances will play a very minor role in this decision.
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That is very sad and scary statement. Good luck.
 
whichever school would give me a full ride with no strings attached. 🙂
 
ChiDO said:
That is very sad and scary statement. Good luck.
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stop being so judgmental! did you actually read my post? have you considered that i may just have different values or priorities than you? not everyone considers the same things when making these decisions.
 
dw2158 said:
stop being so judgmental! did you actually read my post? have you considered that i may just have different values or priorities than you? not everyone considers the same things when making these decisions.
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+1 You go!
 
ChiDO said:
That is very sad and scary statement. Good luck.
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isn't the average debt coming out of a public medical school something like $140k? and the average debt coming out of a private med school is like $170k. this is according to the penn financial aid presentation i just attended on friday.

so if you were to just look at averages (which admittedly doesn't capture the whole picture), $30k difference is really minor considering the starting salary for any kind of physician is at least 5 times that.

public schools still cost a LOT for students to attend - they rely on government funding, which varies a TON more than does a private school's ability to help out with endowment or whatever. i don't get why people think that public schools are *that* much cheaper, considering private schools will typically give more financial aid.
 
JJFoshay said:
Torn between UMich and Mayo (can't totally tell on the latter cuz my interview hasn't happened yet.) I flipped a coin and got Mayo. Their financial aid and reputation is unbeatable, but the locale detracts. Michigan doesn't have the name recognition, but the way the school is run and the location seems ideal. I really don't know what I'd do if I got both of those.
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Michigan doesn't have name recognition? I'd say it has at least as much as Mayo. 😱
 
JJFoshay said:
Not here, at least. I've told multiple profs and other people that I'm interviewing at both -- some recognize Michigan (mostly science folks), but all say something like "that's the big time!" when I say Mayo.
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It depends on who you want to impress. Most patients would be more likely to recognize Michigan because it also has great programs in law, business, undergrad etc. in addition to their medical school. Mayo is known for the Mayo Clinic and has only a medical school. But I think they are about even in terms of prestige.
 
schrizto said:
It depends on who you want to impress. Most patients would be more likely to recognize Michigan because it also has good programs in law, business, undergrad etc. in addition to their medical school. Mayo is known for the Mayo Clinic and has only a medical school. But I think they are about even in terms of prestige.
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Mayo Clinic is almost unrivaled in prestige and name.
 
dw2158 said:
stop being so judgmental! did you actually read my post? have you considered that i may just have different values or priorities than you? not everyone considers the same things when making these decisions.
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I did indeed read your entire post and to say that you are not considering the financial impact of your decision makes you completely naive. If you take out $300k for medical school, add $75k from residency interest during deferment and here is what you get:

[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Loan Balance: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $375,000.00 . [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
Adjusted Loan Balance: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $375,000.00
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Loan Interest Rate: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 6.80%.
[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Loan Fees: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 0.00%. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
Loan Term: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 10 years.
[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Minimum Payment: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $50.00
.[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Monthly Loan Payment:.[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $4,315.51
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Number of Payments: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 120. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]

. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Cumulative Payments: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $517,861.61
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Total Interest Paid: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $142,861.61 .

This obviously does not consider any undergraduate loans. Furthermore, you will probably want to live in a condo/house and probably start a family sometime, have malpractice insurance, bills, mortgage, ect. I guess you are fine having over $4k per month in loan payments and most likely living pay check to pay check. I, unfortunately, do not want to live on noodles and like a resident until I'm 40; if that makes you a better person then me, so be it.

I have friends in medical school that will be over $400k from educational debt and when I speak to them about it, many of them are overwhelmed because they are realizing that the road ahead is a lot tougher then they expected. I feel sorry for them and I also feel sorry for those who are naive about their finances when it comes to educational debt.
 
BlueElmo said:
Mayo Clinic is almost unrivaled in prestige and name.
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Your statement makes it sound as if Mayo has as much name recognition as Harvard, and it doesn't. The Mayo Clinic is extremely well regarded in the Midwest, but once you get farther away most laypeople know it as a hospital somewhere.
 
ChiDO said:
I did indeed read your entire post and to say that you are not considering the financial impact of your decision makes you completely naive. If you take out $300k for medical school, add $75k from residency interest during deferment and here is what you get:

[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Loan Balance: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $375,000.00 . [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
Adjusted Loan Balance: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $375,000.00
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Loan Interest Rate: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 6.80%.
[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Loan Fees: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 0.00%. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
Loan Term: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 10 years.
[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Minimum Payment: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $50.00
.[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]Monthly Loan Payment:.[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $4,315.51
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Number of Payments: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] 120. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA]

. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Cumulative Payments: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $517,861.61
. [FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] Total Interest Paid: .[FONT=ARIAL, HELVETICA] $142,861.61 .

This obviously does not consider any undergraduate loans. Furthermore, you will probably want to live in a condo/house and probably start a family sometime, have malpractice insurance, bills, mortgage, ect. I guess you are fine having over $4k per month in loan payments and most likely living pay check to pay check. I, unfortunately, do not want to live on noodles and like a resident until I'm 40; if that makes you a better person then me, so be it.

I have friends in medical school that will be over $400k from educational debt and when I speak to them about it, many of them are overwhelmed because they are realizing that the road ahead is a lot tougher then they expected. I feel sorry for them and I also feel sorry for those who are naive about their finances when it comes to educational debt.
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you know, i was going to respond to this post with a rebuttal and proof of why i'm not "naive." but you're not worth my time.
 
jla314 said:
isn't the average debt coming out of a public medical school something like $140k? and the average debt coming out of a private med school is like $170k. this is according to the penn financial aid presentation i just attended on friday.

so if you were to just look at averages (which admittedly doesn't capture the whole picture), $30k difference is really minor considering the starting salary for any kind of physician is at least 5 times that.

public schools still cost a LOT for students to attend - they rely on government funding, which varies a TON more than does a private school's ability to help out with endowment or whatever. i don't get why people think that public schools are *that* much cheaper, considering private schools will typically give more financial aid.
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The "averages" of medical school debt are skewed by those presentations. They include everyone attending the school, even those on military scholarships and those who are not taking out any loans. Thus, if you have 10 military at $0 and another 10 who arent taking any loans, that drives the "average" debt down significantly.

The "average" debt for those taking out medical school loans is easily over $200k.
 
schrizto said:
Your statement makes it sound as if Mayo has as much name recognition as Harvard, and it doesn't. The Mayo Clinic is extremely well regarded in the Midwest, but once you get farther away most laypeople know it as a hospital somewhere.
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You seem really naive. Have you even traveled outside your high school/college? You're still in high school right?
 
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