IF I wanted plastic surgery, why I would apply to dental school

[CurryPower]

I realized I posted this in my previous forum, but it was in the middle of the forum. I would appreciate any further comments.

This is going to sound a bit uneasy to say, but I think I am going to apply to dental school.

Well, I am also only a sophomore and if I recall, from the very first steps I took into college, I told myself that I was bound for medicine and as a result of my dedication, I have established a premed reputation in my class to a great extent-that is, when I walk into my orgo and gen bio classes, people expect me to have one of the highest scores in my class. The questions that my classmates would ask is not "what did you get on the exam or what was your gpa" but rather, "did you get a 4.0" or "did you get the highest score on the orgo exam?"

Overall, my credentials are solid- 3.97 GPA at a top 20 institution, started undergrad research as a freshman at a neighboring med school and, well, if I studied really hard on the MCAT, not to sound assertive, but I definitely feel like I could get the 35+. In addition, I have great recommendations for research at from a clinical professor at a neighboring med school + tons of shadowing and volunteering.

While it may have been fun at first to succeed and receive compliments from my professors and classmates, the stress, pulsating veins in my head, and tiredness overshadowed the importance of my success. Essentially, I thought to myself, maybe its not worth it financially and lifestyle-wise, but I did not want to give up my natural knack for science and pursue a business major. Instead, I thought to myself, I may still have the opportunity to try to do derm or plastic surgery, get into private practice, work 9-6 and and make a 500K+ salary.

However, after realizing the stress of what people go through in med school- USMLE, getting AOA, trying to do derm research and meeting top researchers all this while maintaining a straight face and covering up the all-nighter that they just pulled, its a really brutal path like I mentioned in my original post. I feel that while I may be the uber-competitive student right now trying to get into a top 10 med school, I may simply be average or falter in one criterion which would hinder my chances of getting into the coveted lifestyle+salary residencies in medicine. I mean honestly, if would I were to go into med school seeking only money/lifestyle (thus explaining why derm and plastics are the toughest specialties to get into), despite my academic background, the advice you would give me is probably "be ready to be disappointed just in case."

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route, a still highly respectable profession, the academic barriers in this path-the DAT, national board exams (which you can retake)- seem like a quiz compared to the MCAT and USMLE. Plus, there seems to be a better chance for me to specialize- though I will admit it is still difficult. Furthermore, it seems that, in comparison with medical schools, going to higher ranked dental school is important because they tend to send a significantly higher number of kids to tougher specialties and the students average significantly higher on the board exams. With regard to research and ECs, there isn't much of a burden as derm programs may seem to place on students.

Based on this, I realized that I still have an opportunity to enter the cosmetic industry as an M.D. physician. Ultimately, my dream goal now is to do the 6-year residency in oral and maxillofacial surgery after dental school where I go back for my 3rd and 4th years at a med school to get an MD degree, and finish the remaining 4 years of residency. On top of that, similar to what some general surgeons and ENT doctors do, I hope to fulfill a 2-year cosmetic surgery residency from the American Board of Cosmetic Surgery, entailing me to do cosmetic procedures. Based on my training, I hope to run a practice built off oral and cosmetic surgery.

For example:
http://www.nuveencosmeticsurgery.com...nuveens-resume
or
http://www.cosmeticsurgicalartsmt.com/
or
http://www.vincentsurgicalarts.com/doctor.html

While this may not be the most honorable or noble thing to do with my skills (in the context of trying to live up to the Nip/Tuck or plastic surgeon fantasy), does this route substitute to what I could have attained in medicine (through plastic surgery) both financially and lifestyle?

Thanks for your help.

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[UnderdogMD]

wow.

 

[Slide]

Are you freaking kidding me? You've already made a post on this already, why make a new thread? At first I was sorta sympathetic to your dilemma but now it's gone because of your pretentiousness/OCD. This thread's def. gonna get the axe.

 

[blurry]

While this may not be the most honorable or noble thing to do with my skills

Good grades and all that other stuff you seem think you're amazing at does not equal or even remotely correlate to skills in medicine.

At first I was sorta sympathetic to your dilemma

Quite frankly, I don't even see how you can be even remotely sympathetic to his "dilemma". The OP clearly wants to enter the field for all the wrong reasons, so much so that he is already looking for shortcuts before even being admitted.

 

[Slide]

Quite frankly, I don't even see how you can be even remotely sympathetic to his "dilemma". The OP clearly wants to enter the field for all the wrong reasons, so much so that he is already looking for shortcuts before even being admitted.

You're absolutely right. I don't even know how I was remotely sympathetic, nor what I was thinking when I wrote that. Whatever the case, it's not there anymore.

 

[Chizwheel]

Ok so I read your entire post. If you wrote exactly how you felt and are really planning to pursue this path, I can be over 90% sure that you will be unhappy in your profession, EVEN if you do the entire OMFS track with a cosmetics specialty exactly as you planned.

Stop worrying about finances/lifestyle and find what you are passionate about. The biggest problem with the uber-successful Type A personalities is that it all comes down to numbers and progress and there is little to no emotion/passion left at the end.

 

[Maxprime]

Check out this tag "[/B]" - it'll work wonders.

 

[Tired]

While this may not be the most honorable or noble thing to do with my skills (in the context of trying to live up to the Nip/Tuck or plastic surgeon fantasy), does this route substitute to what I could have attained in medicine (through plastic surgery) both financially and lifestyle?

You seem to be under the impression that doing OMF Surgery is somehow easier than getting into Plastics through an MD program.

I predict you are in for a very big suprise.

 

[CurryPower]

Well, I realized that as I posted the thread -->
- did not expect sympathy,
- was going to get the "axe"

It was just an issue of getting more responses, which by the way, some are more positive than the others. For me, its not just an issue of my own personal case, but more along the lines of those people who go through med school, put down PRS on their first choice on their match list, and do not match. Basically, I was hoping this thread could have presented the issue of "Would you have gone to dental school instead?"

I apologize if my intentions were construed differently.

 

[Medic MD]

If you want to be a physician, go to medical school. If you want to be a dentist, go to dental school. I don't really see why that decision should be difficult. Trying to figure out a "back-door" type path to doing what you because you don't want to deal with the stress of school, the USMLE, the match and whatever else just makes you sound weak. Suck it up. Besides, when I was in school, both of my neighbors were dental students. That path isn't much easier than ours, if at all.

 

[rkamsterdam]

be ready to be disappointed just in case

 

[JackDanielMD]

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[armybound]

I have no idea why this is in pre-allo.

 

[NickMB]

Peruse here:

https://www.abplsurg.org/ModDefault.aspx?section=TrainingRequire

Then decide for yourself. No one else can, or should, make a decision for you. And if you expect the lifestyle of Doctor 90210...he's not even a board certified plastic surgeon.

 

[CurryPower]

Moderator:
Move to ALLOPATHIC

 

[armybound]

Moderator:
Move to ALLOPATHIC

why allo? this seems like an issue for dental students or pre-dents more than any medical student

 

[rds726]

Hahahah. wow this is one of the worst.
mods should be able to ban idiots who start stupid pretentious threads.
i guess then we, bored people, would have no source of entertainment.

Currypower, what makes you think you are so awesome anyways? youre only a sophomore. have fun cruising through the rest of college believing you're the s***.

 

[paranoid_eyes]

troll?

 

[Depakote]

sorry for all the jumping around, but as your post indicates that your current career plan is to pursue dental school first, the proper place for this thread is pre-dent.

moving.

 

[Regmata]

It is funny how someone who on paper seems to be so smart can in reality be so dumb and naive.

 

[DSpagnoli]

I realized I posted this in my previous forum, but it was in the middle of the forum. I would appreciate any further comments.

This is going to sound a bit uneasy to say, but I think I am going to apply to dental school.

Well, I am also only a sophomore and if I recall, from the very first steps I took into college, I told myself that I was bound for medicine and as a result of my dedication, I have established a premed reputation in my class to a great extent-that is, when I walk into my orgo and gen bio classes, people expect me to have one of the highest scores in my class. The questions that my classmates would ask is not "what did you get on the exam or what was your gpa" but rather, "did you get a 4.0" or "did you get the highest score on the orgo exam?"

Overall, my credentials are solid- 3.97 GPA at a top 20 institution, started undergrad research as a freshman at a neighboring med school and, well, if I studied really hard on the MCAT, not to sound assertive, but I definitely feel like I could get the 35+. In addition, I have great recommendations for research at from a clinical professor at a neighboring med school + tons of shadowing and volunteering.

While it may have been fun at first to succeed and receive compliments from my professors and classmates, the stress, pulsating veins in my head, and tiredness overshadowed the importance of my success. Essentially, I thought to myself, maybe its not worth it financially and lifestyle-wise, but I did not want to give up my natural knack for science and pursue a business major. Instead, I thought to myself, I may still have the opportunity to try to do derm or plastic surgery, get into private practice, work 9-6 and and make a 500K+ salary.

However, after realizing the stress of what people go through in med school- USMLE, getting AOA, trying to do derm research and meeting top researchers all this while maintaining a straight face and covering up the all-nighter that they just pulled, its a really brutal path like I mentioned in my original post. I feel that while I may be the uber-competitive student right now trying to get into a top 10 med school, I may simply be average or falter in one criterion which would hinder my chances of getting into the coveted lifestyle+salary residencies in medicine. I mean honestly, if would I were to go into med school seeking only money/lifestyle (thus explaining why derm and plastics are the toughest specialties to get into), despite my academic background, the advice you would give me is probably "be ready to be disappointed just in case."

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route, a still highly respectable profession, the academic barriers in this path-the DAT, national board exams (which you can retake)- seem like a quiz compared to the MCAT and USMLE. Plus, there seems to be a better chance for me to specialize- though I will admit it is still difficult. Furthermore, it seems that, in comparison with medical schools, going to higher ranked dental school is important because they tend to send a significantly higher number of kids to tougher specialties and the students average significantly higher on the board exams. With regard to research and ECs, there isn't much of a burden as derm programs may seem to place on students.

Based on this, I realized that I still have an opportunity to enter the cosmetic industry as an M.D. physician. Ultimately, my dream goal now is to do the 6-year residency in oral and maxillofacial surgery after dental school where I go back for my 3rd and 4th years at a med school to get an MD degree, and finish the remaining 4 years of residency. On top of that, similar to what some general surgeons and ENT doctors do, I hope to fulfill a 2-year cosmetic surgery residency from the American Board of Cosmetic Surgery, entailing me to do cosmetic procedures. Based on my training, I hope to run a practice built off oral and cosmetic surgery.

For example:
http://www.nuveencosmeticsurgery.com...nuveens-resume
or
http://www.cosmeticsurgicalartsmt.com/
or
http://www.vincentsurgicalarts.com/doctor.html

While this may not be the most honorable or noble thing to do with my skills (in the context of trying to live up to the Nip/Tuck or plastic surgeon fantasy), does this route substitute to what I could have attained in medicine (through plastic surgery) both financially and lifestyle?

Thanks for your help.

Stop trying so hard first of all. After reading your post it sounds like it was meticulously written down to every detail like some kind of english assignment...come on man. You don't even sound like you are someone who is personable to be around, let alone interact with patients in a compassionate way.

Secondly, I think you are underestimating the difficulty of getting into dental schools now, and the path to specialty residency after that. I'm not saying you will have trouble getting in, but it is no cakewalk as you seem to think. Try going up against 7000 applicants instead of 2,000. If you think things will fall into your little plan by going the dental route, you will be very dissapointed....it will not make things any easier. You are thinking way too far in advance. Take it one step at a time or you will be let down big time when you get shafted at a school that only takes 1-2 students a year for a 6 year omfs residency. You should just focus on graduating first and doing the necessary things to get yourself into a med or dent school.

 

[airsimon]

Typical pre-med student.

 

[NewMexDent]

Three important points to consider:

1. Pre-med and med students aren't going to like you because you are interested in medicine for the wrong reasons.

2. Pre-dent and dental students aren't going to like you because you imply that going to dental school is inferior/a waste of talent.

3. Your mother isn't going to like you because no one else likes you.

In conclusion, do what interests you and stop irritating people.

 

[TerpFan]

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route,

Yes, please don't squander your "scientific talents". God fobid, I have you as my classmate. 🙄

All joking aside, It seems like you're wayyy more interested in medicine but just thinking of dentistry as an easy way out. And as someone already said before, a 3.97 and even a 26/27 on the DAT does not mean you are cut out to be a good dentist. Just stick to medicine and if you really do want to do plastics as badly as you say, then i'm sure you can put up with all the hard work. It's easier to be motivated to work hard when its towards something you deeply care about.

 

[armorshell]

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route,

Are you kidding me? GTFO noob

 

[armorshell]

Actually, I'm coming back later to make fun of you more. Don't leave.

 

[TerpFan]

Actually, I'm coming back later to make fun of you more. Don't leave.

Hahaa...I was waiting for you to chime in. I love your responses to ridiculous posts like this.

 

[Suzan]

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[makushin]

Get out of healthcare. If you're really so smart, you'll be happier in finance.

 

[blasterx]

Typical pre-med student.

I bet they're jumping for joy that they dumped this fool off on us. Newsflash: We don't want you either.

 

[ufgrad00]

Anybody else think we will see him next year posting: "I have the best stats, and I didn't get into medical/dental school because of URMs, unfriendly interviewer, or (other lame excuse) should I sue the school ?"

 

[gogiantsss]

I hate to join in on the bash party but getting a 4.0 in undergrad is more about effort and out-studying that other guy. It certainly doesn't reflect any of that scientific talent you speak of.

 

[Danny0230]

Wow, I've never seen so many ridiculous statements that I'd like to strangle someone for in one post.

This clown is a sophomore in undergrad and acts like he's a gift to the world of healthcare. Please do us all that 'disservice' you were talking about and don't pursue anything in health related science.

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route --> and for that, seriously, f u

 

[toofshucker]

I hate to join in on the bash party but getting a 4.0 in undergrad is more about effort and out-studying that other guy. It certainly doesn't reflect any of that scientific talent you speak of.

While I do agree that in undergrad there are smarter people than others (look at the half of your class that is re-taking Gen Chem for the 3rd time thinking they have a shot at medical/dental school), what you say does hold true and ESPECIALLY once you get into a program. Once you are into your professional program, everyone around you has the same stats as you. The ones that study the most get the best grades and visa versa.

Also, to the OP:

If you ask the people that have actually done both medical and dental school, they all say that dental school was harder than medical school. SO, don't think that dental is easier. There are more kids in dental school wanting to be Oral Surgeons than there are kids in medical school wanting to do derm/plastics.

The point is, the grass ain't greener on the other side and neither way is easier. Both are going to be tough and both will take up all your time. Do the specialty that you will be happier in if you can't specialize. If you can't see yourself drilling teeth all day long as a general dentist, then do medical school. Remember, only 20% of dental students specialize, and a lot of those are specializing in "crappy" specialties (Public Health, Patho, Radiology, Perio, etc).

 

[onamission]

I don't know, dental school might be the way he should go. If he's as talented as he claims he is, he can learn to work on his own mouth. That will come in handy when he gets his teeth bashed in by all the pre-dents & pre-meds (and his Mom!).

 

[dentstd]

Lots of things to comment on...

If dental schools know that this is your intention, you WILL be rejected on the spot, regardless of your GPA/DAT.

I see your argument on the competitive nature of med school vs dental school, aura of arrogance aside. Going the dental route is valid, but the biggest problem is that you'll tag an extra 6 years of training on yourself. Six years is remarkable in terms of your practicing years in surgery AND in terms of debt/interest.

As far as the match rate of derm and plastics, the fields are competitive in a sense. Med schools don't disclose certain statistics to the general public, but have a med student friend look them up for you and you'll realize that very few people apply to derm and plastics. People's interest vary widely and you'll get as many people apply to neurosurgery, anesthesiology, ER, medicine, optho, ortho,...etc. People apply to what they're interested in doing, not what the hype's in. And more on matching in derm and plastics, the better the school you go to, the higher the chances that you'll match into the 2 fields. The Top 5 med schools have a VERY high match rate. I've seen stats on this. And even more on matching in derm and plastics, the avg Step score is around 235, but the standard deviation is HUGE. It's not atypical for a person with a 209 to match into derm. It's a matter of what field you like. Hell, the avg Step score for most top school's 235 anyway, so at least half of the students at EACH top med school qualifies for the two fields. They just don't apply cuz they don't want them.

In summary, go to med school. Get into the premier schools in the country and your chances of matching derm/plastics'll be higher.

 

[CurryPower]

Dentstd,

thanks for the reply. I realize I'm getting bashed, but I am not trying to be arrogant if that's what it seems like this thread is about. Also, I am not saying dental is an easier route either. Furthermore, I have had the opportunity to shadow different specialties in both fields so I am coming in with a perspective of what I would like to do in the future and the nature of work I'd like to deal with.

With this being said, though this may sound pessimistic, I feel that by going to a higher ranked med school, despite a low number apply, I am more worried about the minute details such as not having enough publications or getting AOA by competing with such talented individuals. Furthermore, it seems like there are a lot of people who apply, despite having the stats, are not guaranteed into a derm/plastics spot and have to reapply. With this in mind, I even looked at the NBDE and USMLE, and to be sincere, there is no comparison which is harder. Research is not also that important in dental school, while it is imperative in medical school. All I am saying is that I am willing to invest the same effort in either track, but I feel that I will be met with less disappointment with dental school.

 

[Regmata]

The USMLE and NBDE don't really cover the same materials...they do to a degree, but you are comparing apples to oranges. Furthermore, dental school is not difficult because of the difficulty of content, it is the shear amount of content and clinical work that make it so hard. Med students are typically done with school by noon, dents at 5. We spend more time at school, juggle more classes and in addition to the same basic science courses as the meds, we have to perform preclinical and clinical assignments. Which is harder, med or dent will vary from person to person. If you do choose dent, you had better have good hand skills and perform well in clinic. You see, your grades and therefore rank don't just depend on your didactic abilities in dental school. It would be awfully ironic if you chose dental because you thought it would be easier, had a 4.0 heading into your third year and then ate a bunch of C's and D's because you can't perform procedures to save your life. If you are so smart, maybe you should stay where shear intelligence is enough to get you by...provided you are as intelligent as you think...it is very different when all the other students around you actually want to be there and actually do try. Separating yourself in undergrad is great, pat yourself on the back...but it certainly is not the accomplishment you think it is.

 

[dentstd]

Dentstd,

thanks for the reply. I realize I'm getting bashed, but I am not trying to be arrogant if that's what it seems like this thread is about. Also, I am not saying dental is an easier route either. Furthermore, I have had the opportunity to shadow different specialties in both fields so I am coming in with a perspective of what I would like to do in the future and the nature of work I'd like to deal with.

With this being said, though this may sound pessimistic, I feel that by going to a higher ranked med school, despite a low number apply, I am more worried about the minute details such as not having enough publications or getting AOA by competing with such talented individuals. Furthermore, it seems like there are a lot of people who apply, despite having the stats, are not guaranteed into a derm/plastics spot and have to reapply. With this in mind, I even looked at the NBDE and USMLE, and to be sincere, there is no comparison which is harder. Research is not also that important in dental school, while it is imperative in medical school. All I am saying is that I am willing to invest the same effort in either track, but I feel that I will be met with less disappointment with dental school.

A minority of students who apply to the competitive fields are AOA.

Step I's much harder, yea. But the avg student at top schools score 94th percentile each year, so....

The debt load will be overbearing by going the dental route. Go to med school.

 

[Columbia07]

CurryPower,

1. Listen carefully, and I mean very carefully, you cannot go into dental school telling yourself you're going to be a DDS, MD Surgeon. It is very likely that you will never make it. Ask yourself this, what if you were to go through dental school and then match to a 4-year program instead of a 6? No medical degree, no plastics fellowship (need the MD) and now your off "squandering your scientific capabilities" being a measly OMFS.

2. You are willing to spend 4 years in dental school, 6 years in an OMFS/MD residency and 2 years in a Plastics Fellowship just so you can have an MD and do plastic surgery? For someone that thinks their god's gift to the world, this is the most mickey mouse plan I've ever heard. Actually, plain f**king stupid.

3. Go to medical school. Looking at the NRMP published by the AAMC dermatology has 1.8 applicants per spot and plastics has 1.7 applicants per spot. Those are pretty decent odds, and I think they're on par with OMFS and Ortho.

4. In closing, sack up, don't be a b**ch, and become that nip/tuck plastic surgeon you've aspired to your entire life.

 

[bennijai]

wow...im just speechless.

posting a thread like that...you're just holding a sign up stating "bash me please." using dentistry as some back up is no way to get through your life "goals." just stick with your dream of being a cosmetic surgeon.

even if you were asking for advice there was no need to throw in low blows and give off the impression that your some prehealth god. try to be a bit more modest eh?

 

[Long Dong]

Three important points to consider:

1. Pre-med and med students aren't going to like you because you are interested in medicine for the wrong reasons.

2. Pre-dent and dental students aren't going to like you because you imply that going to dental school is inferior/a waste of talent.

3. Your mother isn't going to like you because no one else likes you.

In conclusion, do what interests you and stop irritating people.

3. Go to medical school. Looking at the NRMP published by the AAMC dermatology has 1.8 applicants per spot and plastics has 1.7 applicants per spot. Those are pretty decent odds, and I think they're on par with OMFS and Ortho.

The NRMP data is misleading because it only tells you those who applied and got interviews to rank derm. But in actuallly ~900 apply to derm each year (~500 get interviews) for ~300 spots.

 

[armorshell]

CurryPower,

1. Listen carefully, and I mean very carefully, you cannot go into dental school telling yourself you're going to be a DDS, MD Surgeon. It is very likely that you will never make it. Ask yourself this, what if you were to go through dental school and then match to a 4-year program instead of a 6? No medical degree, no plastics fellowship (need the MD) and now your off "squandering your scientific capabilities" being a measly OMFS.

2. You are willing to spend 4 years in dental school, 6 years in an OMFS/MD residency and 2 years in a Plastics Fellowship just so you can have an MD and do plastic surgery? For someone that thinks their god's gift to the world, this is the most mickey mouse plan I've ever heard. Actually, plain f**king stupid.

3. Go to medical school. Looking at the NRMP published by the AAMC dermatology has 1.8 applicants per spot and plastics has 1.7 applicants per spot. Those are pretty decent odds, and I think they're on par with OMFS and Ortho.

4. In closing, sack up, don't be a b**ch, and become that nip/tuck plastic surgeon you've aspired to your entire life.

Columbia, you're kicking ass lately. Quit stealing my thoughts before I get to think them.

 

[phraud]

I'm going to hold off on the bashing (as best I can) and give my honest opinion on your situation...

If you have a certain career goal, and you found an easier (and legit) way of getting there, then go for it! From what you claim, it sounds like you have a good chance with whatever route you take, as long as you're not severely socially awkward and a total d*ck. Actually, you can probably get away with being a total d*ck (it's sad 'cause it's true).

I know everyone is saying you're going to be miserable if you're only in it for the money, but honestly, if money is that important to you then most likely you'll be pretty happy with life if you make your goal. There are plenty of people out there that would be more than happy licking used toilets for a living if they were making 500K+.

I can see why a lot of people would be mad at you for your post. First off, you need to work on your tact with people. If you made this post and completely didn't realize that you come off as kind of a douche, then you need to take some time watching those teen movies like "She's All That" and "10 Things I Hate About You". Pay attention to the main characters that end up happy in the movie, and try to be like them. Then look at the characters that end up unhappy, and try to not be like them. Secondly, you getting into any dental/med school, would result in a spot being taken up that could have gone to a person who's 100x more deserving of it. That just sucks to think about. But I'm sure everyone whose been accepted can easily think of another person that didn't get in, who's more deserving of their spot. So who are we to judge?

I'm sure everyone here is probably thinking if you become a doctor, you would probably be a horrible doctor because you don't care about people, all you care about it money, you have no passion, etc. I mean, you won't be Patch Adams, but you can still be a good doctor. If you do your job, do it well, and don't do shady things (especially with cosmetics), then I'm sure you'll be fine.

I'm just keeping it real (Chappelle Show, anyone?). Everyone just has to accept that there is a good portion of people out there with awesome GPAs and DAT scores, that really don't care about dentistry at all. And most likely, they will get into dental school. It sucks, but what else can the schools do with this many people applying?

You have your priorities... do whatever makes you happiest. Just make sure you don't use people solely as a means to your end. (I think Kant said something like that)

 

[armorshell]

However, after realizing the stress of what people go through in med school- USMLE, getting AOA, trying to do derm research and meeting top researchers all this while maintaining a straight face and covering up the all-nighter that they just pulled, its a really brutal path like I mentioned in my original post.
[/B]

You're worried about this and you want to do an oral surgery residency? Have you ever met a surgical resident? Any surgical resident? No, Grey's anatomy doesn't count, I know how much TV influences you with that Nip/Tuck BS. If you can't handle a few research projects in med school and losing a little sleep, you're going to literally die in any decent OS residency, probably at the hands of your co-residents.

Although I am not sure whether to feel guilty about squandering my scientific talents by pursuing the dental route, a still highly respectable profession, the academic barriers in this path-the DAT, national board exams (which you can retake)- seem like a quiz compared to the MCAT and USMLE.
[/B]

You do realize what a standardized test is right? All test takers have the same or similar exams, the scores are computed and normalized. If a test looks easier to you, it looks easier to everyone else as well.

Plus, there seems to be a better chance for me to specialize- though I will admit it is still difficult. Furthermore, it seems that, in comparison with medical schools, going to higher ranked dental school is important because they tend to send a significantly higher number of kids to tougher specialties and the students average significantly higher on the broard exams. With regard to research and ECs, there isn't much of a burden as derm programs may seem to place on students.
[/B]

😡 In the interest of a unified front, this is going to be the one time I let this slide. You hear me dentstd? 😛

Based on this, I realized that I still have an opportunity to enter the cosmetic industry as an M.D. physician. Ultimately, my dream goal now is to do the 6-year residency in oral and maxillofacial surgery after dental school where I go back for my 3rd and 4th years at a med school to get an MD degree, and finish the remaining 4 yeas of residency. On top of that, similar to what some general surgeons and ENT doctors do, I hope to fulfill a 2-year cosmetic surgery residency from the American Board of Cosmetic Surgery, entailing me to do cosmetic procedures. Based on my training, I hope to run a practice built off oral and cosmetic surgery.

[/B]

If you think you're going to be living the "good life, making 500k/year doing nip/tuck surgery" as an OMFS you seriously need to do some actual research into the field. If you want that kind of plastic surgery, GO TO MED SCHOOL. If that Dr. Rey jackass can match I'm sure any joker with a pinstriped pink suit can.

 

[Frederico Albin]

I would love to critic how stupid your plan is... but I'm just a freshman hahahahaha

 

[armorshell]

I would love to critic how stupid your plan is... but I'm just a freshman hahahahaha

I seriously doubt anything you would say could be any stupider than anything this guy has said. I actually got a little dumber when I read it the first time. It's like an intelligence vacuum or some kind of concentration gradient diffusing away my thinkase.

 

[dentstd]

😡 In the interest of a unified front, this is going to be the one time I let this slide. You hear me dentstd? 😛

Heeyyyy. I ain't said nuttin'. 😛

 

[TerpFan]

I seriously doubt anything you would say could be any stupider than anything this guy has said. I actually got a little dumber when I read it the first time. It's like an intelligence vacuum or some kind of concentration gradient diffusing away my thinkase.

 

[Tunaman]

Stop feeding this kids ego, dont you people see that this is what he wants?