If I were to be rejected....

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Does not getting into Medical school the first time adversely affect chances of getting in a second time?

I am having a huge dilemma here- I want to apply now to medical school but feel like with a year off Id be in tip-top shape. I think since I am still reasonably competitive Ill apply now but this little fact does matter a lot since I amy be rejected this first time around
 
are you gonna be a senior next year? you don't have to apply now. many take a year off. reapplying won't hurt your chances as long as you improve from the previous year
 
Does not getting into Medical school the first time adversely affect chances of getting in a second time?

I am having a huge dilemma here- I want to apply now to medical school but feel like with a year off Id be in tip-top shape. I think since I am still reasonably competitive Ill apply now but this little fact does matter a lot since I amy be rejected this first time around

Yes. This process very definitely favors those who get their ducks in a row first and then pull the trigger. DO NOT APPLY on a whim, or before you are ready to put your best foot forward. At some schools reapplicants are looked at differently, and in all schools you will be expected to show substantial improvement over a prior, rejected, application -- meaning it's a higher standard just to get considered. So if you think you are not putting your best foot forward, hold off a year and make your application stronger. Don't apply and simply figure -- we'll if I don't get in this year I'll just get in next year. You have to be a much better applicant the second time around then you would be if you simply didn't send out that first application.
 
If your credentials are reasonably competitive, why not appy this year? I don't think you're necessarily at a disadvantage if you apply for the second time as long as you improve your weaknesses. Besides it can demonstrate your passion for medicine.
 
...Besides it can demonstrate your passion for medicine.

Not so much, at least at most places. You are more often put in a less desirable pile at some places, where you are held to a higher standard -- needing to show improvement above and beyond what would have gotten you in if you only held off a year before applying. Every year someone on the pre-allo or reapplicant board plays up the suggestion that applying over and over again shows real dedication. It just doesn't work that way. Adcoms want applicants with few to no blemishes. When you are digging through a pile of 10,000 applications, it only takes a small red flag for the adcom to throw out the file. And having been found not up to muster in a prior year is such a flag in some cases. Are they going to take the unblemished applicant, or the one they didn't want last year? For them to take the latter, the reapplicant has to wow them with improvements. So it's a higher standard. You don't want to put yourself in this position if you can tell going in that it's a strong possibility.

If, however, you find yourself in this position, you need to really show pretty substantial improvements -- higher GPA, higher MCAT, more ECs -- often more than you can do between the time you get rejected and the time the next application cycle opens. But for the OP, I think the answer is that if s/he thinks rejection is a substantial possibility, then holding off a year and getting his/her ducks in order is a good idea. Med schools reward those who take the time to get it right, and are hardest on those who rush things. Nothing results in more rejections in the med school application process than rushing things.
 
I know some schools only allow you to apply to their school a maximum of 3 times.
 
Not so much, at least at most places. You are more often put in a less desirable pile at some places, where you are held to a higher standard -- needing to show improvement above and beyond what would have gotten you in if you only held off a year before applying. Every year someone on the pre-allo or reapplicant board plays up the suggestion that applying over and over again shows real dedication. It just doesn't work that way. Adcoms want applicants with few to no blemishes. When you are digging through a pile of 10,000 applications, it only takes a small red flag for the adcom to throw out the file. And having been found not up to muster in a prior year is such a flag in some cases. Are they going to take the unblemished applicant, or the one they didn't want last year? For them to take the latter, the reapplicant has to wow them with improvements. So it's a higher standard. You don't want to put yourself in this position if you can tell going in that it's a strong possibility.

If, however, you find yourself in this position, you need to really show pretty substantial improvements -- higher GPA, higher MCAT, more ECs -- often more than you can do between the time you get rejected and the time the next application cycle opens. But for the OP, I think the answer is that if s/he thinks rejection is a substantial possibility, then holding off a year and getting his/her ducks in order is a good idea. Med schools reward those who take the time to get it right, and are hardest on those who rush things. Nothing results in more rejections in the med school application process than rushing things.

Good job quoting out of context. The post to which you were responding mentioned that the OP would have to improve his/her credentials, like you reiterated.
 
Good job quoting out of context. The post to which you were responding mentioned that the OP would have to improve his/her credentials, like you reiterated.

It also said the OP might as well apply and wouldn't be at a disadvantage. All bad advice IMHO. I quoted the last clause because it's a common assertion that goes along with the bad advice. And no, it wasn't taken out of context -- I discussed it in exactly the context asserted. If you truly thought that post, in whole or in part, was in line with mine, it is you who is reading out of context.

On a side note, after reading your MDApps profile, I'd probably suggest adding more schools given your GPA. If you don't have stellar stats, you can't really get away with 10 or fewer applications. Good luck.
 
It also said the OP might as well apply and wouldn't be at a disadvantage. All bad advice IMHO. I quoted the last clause because it's a common assertion that goes along with the bad advice. And no, it wasn't taken out of context -- I discussed it in exactly the context asserted. If you truly thought that post, in whole or in part, was in line with mine, it is you who is reading out of context.

On a side note, after reading your MDApps profile, I'd probably suggest adding more schools given your GPA. If you don't have stellar stats, you can't really get away with 10 or fewer applications. Good luck.

Where would you suggest I add? I was thinking RFU, Loyola, GWU, TCMC...schools like that.
 
IMHO, you should take a year off. Find some tangentially related to medicine job (I am a research assistant in a lab) and just enjoy the 9-5 life for a bit. Blow some money on the things you've wanted to blow money on, save a little to travel before school starts, and enjoy life as much as possible. You will reach the end of that year excited and ready to tackle medical school and the chance of burn-out will dramatically decrease. I know a lot of my friends who went directly to medical school after senior year are really wishing they had taken a year off.

I guess I should also qualify that with the fact that many don't take a year off and do just fine. It's really up to you at the end of the day.

edit: oh yea, applying to medical school while on your year off is much less stressful than trying to balance it in the midst of all your senior year tests, finals and activities. Plus you will have (some) money to pay for all the ridiculous costs, which may include airfare and hotel stays.
 
well, LizzyM said she/they don't read over the previous app because its an added 30 min. but if you think about it, reapplicants tend to usually not improve because 1. first time they apply as juniors 2. they still have class senior year and expect to get in, so they do nothing 3. most people's mcat scores decrease on the second try. their second app is just as bad as the first

i think taking a year off after senior year would be the best bet.
address GPA/MCAT/EC issues. working for an academic university in research/clinical tech could get you some tuition reimbursement, benefits and dolo.
 
I know some schools only allow you to apply to their school a maximum of 3 times.
At least one will limit you to a maximum of two applications. For what it's worth, I almost applied during senior year (wrote my essays, got my letters of rec) but decided to wait, and I know that my application looked stronger this year. Like it or not, that extra year of experience (and your planned post-college job/research/etc.), and whatever awards, scholarships, etc. you win as a senior look better to admissions committees. While I don't know the exact criteria used at a given school, I'd guess that it's more impressive to see a complete application all at once, than to be able to see the incremental improvements of another year; also, it probably hurts your application for an admissions officer to know that every other school you applied to agreed with his/her conclusions from the previous year. That last part is obviously speculation, since there are countless successful reapplicants every year, but given the choice between an application that I wasn't confident would make me competitive where I wanted to go, and taking a year off and being more confident, I chose the latter.
 
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