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[TexasTriathlete]

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These interview trips are wearing me out. Plus I'm spending all my money. And on top of that, I'm missing work with each trip, so I have less money to spend. I have borrowed almost a grand from my freaking mom for these trips. I am 30, and should not be asking my mom for anything. And honestly, if it was for anything else, including a life-saving surgery, she probably would have told me to go **** myself, and rightly so.

I feel like I've seen enough med schools to make an intelligent decision, and I can't say that it will matter to me very much where I end up. Once school starts, its going to be me and my books, regardless of where I end up.

LECOM-B wowed me with their PBL. GA-PCOM has Atlanta and the PCOM name. I have no doubt that KCOM will appeal to me with their apparent emphasis on an active lifestyle, and they will show me why they are the big daddy DO school with their badass facilities and great history.

I'm also visiting DMU and KCUMB on this trip. DMU also supposedly has wonderful facilities, and KCUMB seems to do a great job of selling themselves. With good reason, I'm sure.

I have also interviewed at MD schools before, and I have seen enough others to realize that its all the same ****. You and your books.

If I have even one option on December 14th, I'm going to take it. If I have two options, I may flip a coin. Or come here and post a "x vs. y vs. z" thread and let you guys make the decision for me.

I just want to move on. Find out where I'm going, find a place to live there, and focus on finishing up this superfluous degree and training for ****loads of triathlons. The end.

 

[saylorsdad]

tex I'm not feeling that you are happy with the admittance process so far. How does it feel getting many interviews in 2007 vs nothing? I'm asking tex not for myself, but perhaps to remind you that it isn't bad getting some love. In case you don't believe me ask the longhorns they aren't getting much love this year from the press in college football.

Hidden message? OU are the 2007 t _ _ _ s s _ _ _ e c _ _ _ _ s

 

[jzeidenb]

have u received any decisions yet?

and youre right, where you go ultimately doesnt matter a great deal, chose the location youd feel most comfortable moving to out of your acceptances

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I have one waitlist at LECOM-B.

GA-PCOM will be meeting on my application on the 19th.

 

[nlax30]

I'm pulling for a quick acceptance notification for you!

It is INCREDIBLY frustrating to put this much effort into something and then wait for a decision while not being able to plan out the next few years of your life. My process last year got stalled until extremely late in the application process and so I didn't find out until late where I was going, and the whole time the wife is finishing up law school and holding off on job hunting because we weren't sure where we'd be living or what we were going to do with the townhouse we owned in that city......

So definitely pulling for ya, and for something sooner rather than later, soooo relieving to know and then be able to have time to get things in order.

 

[UTBME]

tex I'm not feeling that you are happy with the admittance process so far. How does it feel getting many interviews in 2007 vs nothing? I'm asking tex not for myself, but perhaps to remind you that it isn't bad getting some love. In case you don't believe me ask the longhorns they aren't getting much love this year from the press in college football.

Hidden message? OU are the 2007 t _ _ _ s s _ _ _ e c _ _ _ _ s

don't count your chickens before they hatch...you've got one more to go. here's to you guys dropping that one and then again against the pokes so we can back into the Big XII title game.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I think we'd still lose the tiebreaker. Our only hope is that the NCAA steps in and makes them forfeit something, which wouldn't be unheard of.

 

[saylorsdad]

yep texas is done unless the ncaa pulls one out of their a**. Still we have two big games to go, and after allowing baylor 400 yds offense texas tech isn't one to overlook. I think we have osu covered though

 

[jzeidenb]

i know you're sold on lecom-b, have you sent them a letter of intent? i would definitely do so if you haven't already.

 

[Irongirl03]

TexasTri-what did you hear from Touro-Ca?

 

[MDROCKSTAR]

i know you're sold on lecom-b, have you sent them a letter of intent? i would definitely do so if you haven't already.

Is this a common practice even w/o a deposit? I have been accepted to LECOM Erie, and this is my best option so far. The deposit isn't due till december. Should I send them a letter of intent?

 

[gobluegirl]

Is this a common practice even w/o a deposit? I have been accepted to LECOM Erie, and this is my best option so far. The deposit isn't due till december. Should I send them a letter of intent?

Letters of intent are usually sent to a school if you're on their waitlist.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I really like LECOM-B, and I think PBL, or some variation of it, is the future of medical education. However, they won't do anything with their waitlist until January, and I'm not going to miss a deadline somewhere else to hold out for a waitlist spot that may or may not materialize, no matter where it is. If it comes down to me holding out for one or more waitlist spots, I will look at my options again and then send a LOI to whatever school I think would be best. That may be LECOM-B, or somewhere else, depending on the circumstances.

 

[gt2007]

Dont get your hopes up, the process is long I know, but the fact of the matter is with so many interviews, your chances are better. You should be hearing back really soon so just keep your hopes up and you'll be fine...I have faith!


I just heard back today from both LECOM-Bradenton and TouroCOM - NY
I got accepted from TouroCOM-NY and put on the alternate list for LECOM- B TOURO - NY is one of my top choices so I think im going to accept that, I have interviews with AZCOM, LECOM, KCOM, and LMU-Debusk but I am going to cancel all of them, even though I was seriously considering AZCOM as it was one of my top choices, but I dont think its worth the money to go out there and interview when Touro has accepted me.

Anyways goodluck and keep us posted!

 

[307Doc]

I really like LECOM-B, and I think PBL, or some variation of it, is the future of medical education. However, they won't do anything with their waitlist until January, and I'm not going to miss a deadline somewhere else to hold out for a waitlist spot that may or may not materialize, no matter where it is. If it comes down to me holding out for one or more waitlist spots, I will look at my options again and then send a LOI to whatever school I think would be best. That may be LECOM-B, or somewhere else, depending on the circumstances.

I bet you love KCOM and get a call from them the following WEDNESDAY and all your worries will be over with.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I have no doubt that I will love KCOM.

 

[Yourmother]

I'm pretty confident you'll get in somewhere. You come across as confident and down to earth on these forums. I bet you interview pretty well and don't come across as stressed.

For the adcoms your interview was/ is probably a refreshing break from the typical delusional 20 year old. Obviously, they're not impressed with the 2.7, but the MCAT is impressive. That combined with the attidude should land you a seat.

Also, I think you've done your homework and it shows. I speculate that the majority of those invited are so pressed on getting in, they don't stop to really investigate the programs. You've done this and the adcoms know it. I've recently changed my attitude from "trying-to-impress-to-get accepted", to "this-is-going-to-make-me-a-better-physician-someday" attitude. You've already done this.

You'll probably have your pick of 2 schools by 12/14.

 

[Saregamapadanis]

For the adcoms your interview was/ is probably a refreshing break from the typical delusional 20 year old.

Typical delusional 20 year old? How do you define delusion?

 

[DrMidlife]

Typical delusional 20 year old? How do you define delusion?

Ooh, let me, let me!

What I believed as a 20 year old:
- I can change the world!
- I have infinite time and energy, and I always will
- people are rational and have control over themselves
- the system works
- my opinion is valid just because it's mine
- everything happens for a reason
- when he says he'll call, he'll call
- doctors don't have personal problems
- authority figures will take the time to get to know me personally
- people like me because I'm smart (not because I'm cute and blonde)
- smart people are in charge and they know what they're doing
- when I talk people listen (and remember it forever)
- money is just not important
- I'm smart enough to do anything
- people are basically good
- my parents' experiences aren't relevant
- shall I go on?

Old & jaded: that's me.

 

[Yourmother]

👍👍👍👍👍

Ooh, let me, let me!

What I believed as a 20 year old:
- I can change the world!
- I have infinite time and energy, and I always will
- people are rational and have control over themselves
- the system works
- my opinion is valid just because it's mine
- everything happens for a reason
- when he says he'll call, he'll call
- doctors don't have personal problems
- authority figures will take the time to get to know me personally
- people like me because I'm smart (not because I'm cute and blonde)
- smart people are in charge and they know what they're doing
- when I talk people listen (and remember it forever)
- money is just not important
- I'm smart enough to do anything
- people are basically good
- my parents' experiences aren't relevant
- shall I go on?

Old & jaded: that's me.

 

[Saregamapadanis]

The opinions you held at age 20 were idealistic at best, and have not come into fruition as of yet, that does not make them products of delusion.

If such ideas are false, then the whole philosophies of osteopathic and allopathic medical practices are just products of delusion- because they have no concrete data supporting one philosophy or atleast stating that one is better than the other,- and even if they do come up with such evidence, it is going to be refuted by one institution while being accepted by another.

I would still like to know why adcoms would think that an intelligent 20 year old whom they have selected to attend an interview is going to be in a state of delusion while a 30 year old will not be. This does not make sense.

 

[InTheMaking]

Do you think it is any easier for us in college with even less money?

This is the process and if you're so adament to just choose whatever then you should've applied the places you knew you'd get in and only them.

I am not trying to bash you but we all have to go through this and it isn't any harder or easier for any of us. Just keep your head up, withdraw a few applications and settle on a school thats right for you... not the one that accepts you first or earliest.

 

[Yourmother]

Typical delusional 20 year old? How do you define delusion?

I'll add:

-being a doctor is just like E.R. or Gray's Anatomy Nip Tuck
-all your problems will magically go away once you get accepted
-medicine is only for the most intelligent, gifted, smartest
-doctors are better that other people
-doctors get to order nurses around
-all doctors drive a mercedes or porche

 

[Yourmother]

I am not going to debate with you. I am sorry if my opinion did not match with yours.

Look, non-trads have to cling to some kind of hope. If we believe that we have some of advantage because we're older, then let us. I'm not trying to sterotype 20 year olds or anyone, I was just trying to encourage my friend TexasTriathlete who I have watched progress over the past few months. I like to think he has a good shot. Statistically he does not. He has a 2.7 gpa and he's old. But he is chasing down his dream and I respect that.

He and other SDNers like him are an inspiration to me. DrMidlife is another. She is 41 and you probably think she is a grandmother. But she has balls for trying. Maybe we are the one's who are delusional but we don't have much.

So please let us say things like "typical 20" year old without getting defensive. Everyone knows you're younger and have more opportunity. You have that advantage.

Give me a break, I was half kidding when I said it.

 

[Yourmother]

This is the process and if you're so adament to just choose whatever then you should've applied the places you knew you'd get in and only them.

I don't even understand what your saying.

 

[Saregamapadanis]

I'll add:

-being a doctor is just like E.R. or Gray's Anatomy Nip Tuck
-all your problems will magically go away once you get accepted
-medicine is only for the most intelligent, gifted, smartest
-doctors are better that other people
-doctors get to order nurses around
-all doctors drive a mercedes or porche

:grin:
-Grey's anatomy + E.R.= favorite medical drama for 20 year olds.
-All your problems for a 20 year old = choosing a career for life.
-Name one brillant doctor who is an idiot, mediocre, idiot.
-Nurses do check doctor's "orders" from time to time.
-Name one successful doctor who is not financially secure- but is a success in the field of medicine.

 

[nlax30]

Do you think it is any easier for us in college with even less money?

This is the process and if you're so adament to just choose whatever then you should've applied the places you knew you'd get in and only them.

I am not trying to bash you but we all have to go through this and it isn't any harder or easier for any of us. Just keep your head up, withdraw a few applications and settle on a school thats right for you... not the one that accepts you first or earliest.

I think the guy just wanted to vent a little.... 🙂 We all do, you even started a thread for others to "share in your misery".

He's mentioned that he has enjoyed the schools he's been to so far, so he'd be happy at any of them. And I think for the most part people apply to the places they think they'll get in to, though it's so subjective there's no way to know besides throwing apps out there and seeing if some stick.

And there's something to be said for getting a decision earlier than later so you can relax and start planning your life. Especially if you're a little older than the recent college grads like some of us are. It about drove the wife and I crazy not knowing for a while where we'd be living in a few months.

 

[nlax30]

*sigh*.... E.R. I stopped watching after Dr. Green died. And they've long since jumped the shark. And I put up with Grey's for the 1st season but that was it.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I have watched like 1 episode of house and part of an episode of scrubs. That is the extent of my doctor show watching.

 

[t-funk]

Ooh, let me, let me!

What I believed as a 20 year old:
- I can change the world!
- I have infinite time and energy, and I always will
- people are rational and have control over themselves
- the system works
- my opinion is valid just because it's mine
- everything happens for a reason
- when he says he'll call, he'll call
- doctors don't have personal problems
- authority figures will take the time to get to know me personally
- people like me because I'm smart (not because I'm cute and blonde)
- smart people are in charge and they know what they're doing
- when I talk people listen (and remember it forever)
- money is just not important
- I'm smart enough to do anything
- people are basically good
- my parents' experiences aren't relevant
- shall I go on?

Old & jaded: that's me.

So funny and so, so true!

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I have learned enough from those shows that I know I want to do my residency at a tv hospital. All the women are super hot.

 

[gobluegirl]

*sigh*.... E.R. I stopped watching after Dr. Green died. And they've long since jumped the shark. And I put up with Grey's for the 1st season but that was it.

I never really got into ER, but I've seen a couple of the newer episodes and they're not really that interesting. I admit I still watch Grey's, but it's not what it used to be...the characters are starting to annoy me...especially Izzy 👎

 

[DrMidlife]

I would still like to know why adcoms would think that an intelligent 20 year old whom they have selected to attend an interview is going to be in a state of delusion while a 30 year old will not be. This does not make sense.

Oh, there are plenty of delusional 30 year olds too. And there are plenty of non-delusional 20 year olds. On average, the non-delusional candidates get admitted, don't you think?

I think the point is that adcoms face a TON of naive and immature candidates, and reject them. And it so happens that the vast majority of all candidates are doing things the traditional way, which means they're, um, 20ish.

 

[Yourmother]

:grin:
-Grey's anatomy + E.R.= favorite medical drama for 20 year olds.
-All your problems for a 20 year old = choosing a career for life.
-Name one brillant doctor who is an idiot, mediocre, idiot.
-Nurses do check doctor's "orders" from time to time.
-Name one successful doctor who is not financially secure- but is a success in the field of medicine.

Look, I'm not debating. Its lame and pointless. I know your world is all about algorithms and right angles but I'm different.

So go ahead and continue your war if you want.

Stalemate....Uncle...I give up...you win.

 

[DrMidlife]

If we believe that we have some of advantage because we're older, then let us.

IMHO it's no advantage. I had a ton more energy at 20. I still have more than most of you punk-asses, though, don't get me wrong.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

All I know is that when I was a 26-year-old pre-med in classes full of 20-year-old pre-meds, I was extremely happy not to be one of them. There were exceptions, but they were few and far between.

Being immature is part of growing up. I don't fault anyone for it. But the fact of the matter is that most people who are 20 and never been out of school have not experienced enough to know jack **** about anything that matters in the real world. That doesn't mean that they won't make excellent doctors (or nurses, lawyers, mechanics, porn stars, teachers, coaches, etc.). Just that the learning curve is going to be steeper for them once school is over and its time to go to work.

 

[Yourmother]

IMHO it's no advantage.

Sadly, I realize this.

Alright Tex, I'm done hogging your thread. Let us continue with the lamenting of admissions process.

 

[DrMidlife]

:grin:
-Name one brillant doctor who is an idiot, mediocre, idiot.
-Name one successful doctor who is not financially secure- but is a success in the field of medicine.

You're going to meet plenty of both. Just hope you're not one of them.

 

[Saregamapadanis]

You're going to meet plenty of both. Just hope you're not one of them.

yes, I can say that applies to us all.

Anyway, Lets continue with Mr. TexasTriathlete's lamentation as it mirrors all ours 😀👍 .

 

[InTheMaking]

Hope you get in somewhere, not gonna argue against the elders. Good luck.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

That's right, sonny.

Damn young punks with their baggy clothes and rap music.

 

[InTheMaking]

Haha... so many pre-meds like that... riiiiiiight

 

[TexasTriathlete]

Okay after this last trip I am really worn out. Come on GA-PCOM and KCOM... put me out of my misery. Please!!!

 

[Old Grunt]

tex I'm not feeling that you are happy with the admittance process so far. How does it feel getting many interviews in 2007 vs nothing? I'm asking tex not for myself, but perhaps to remind you that it isn't bad getting some love. In case you don't believe me ask the longhorns they aren't getting much love this year from the press in college football.

Hidden message? OU are the 2007 t _ _ _ s s _ _ _ e c _ _ _ _ s

LMAO.

How 'bout them Sooners now?

 

[PT2MD]

Tex. Hang in there boss. The admissions process has started here for Texas schools and a lot of us are hearing crickets right now. I've been having the same thoughts but, other than the interviews, this stuff is out off our hands at this point.

Nothing really worthwhile comes from building up hope or fear about this process. Put your focus on what you have in front of you and things will work out. Wisdom of a not-too-much-older 36 y/o.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

A buddy of mine got the good news from Southwestern the other day. I was happy for him. He didn't even expect to get an interview (white male, 28 MCAT), but he got in. He will be a pretty good doc, I think.

My turn now.

 

[Beau Geste]

A buddy of mine got the good news from Southwestern the other day. I was happy for him. He didn't even expect to get an interview (white male, 28 MCAT), but he got in. He will be a pretty good doc, I think.

My turn now.

when are you supposed to hear?

 

[TexasTriathlete]

when are you supposed to hear?

GA-PCOM adcom meets tomorrow, and I don't know when they'd mail out letters. KCOM adcom meets Wednesday and should call me that day.

I will call GA-PCOM Tuesday, because I want to know ASAP. I've got an interview at LECOM-Erie on 12/6 that I will want to buy a ticket to (2 weeks out) if I don't get in somewhere else. Don't get me wrong, I'd really like to see LECOM-Erie, and I may end up going anyway, but the truth is, I'm sick of traveling, and I don't think Erie would have a decision on my file before the 12/14 deadline, so if I got in somewhere else, I'd have to put down the deposit, or risk being shut out.

Wish you all the best man. I am surprised you have zero acceptances so far. If, for whatever reason, it doesn't work out for you this turn, what will you do? SMP?

Well, I've only interviewed 3 places so far, and only one of them has had their adcom meet on my file, and I was waitlisted. I got my application in later than most of the people who are getting acceptances left and right, so it isn't that surprising. I think I'll get in somewhere. I hope so, anyway. But yeah, probably SMP if I don't get in.

 

[EEL08]

Texas if those schools are following the AACOMAS guidelines then you should have 30 days to submit the deposit, not just til December 14.

 

[TexasTriathlete]

I guess I would have 30 days. Hmmmm...

I'll still probably end this if I get the chance.