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I'm just a little confused on how everything in ur med career works out..
You go to college, med school, and then what? If one goes to Brown PLME and finish 8 years, what do they afterwards if they're interested in radiology?

I think I'm really confused about residency...?

P.S. Oh, since Brown's considered... not as hard (after getting in) as other schools, does it hurt your chances after you finish school?
 
I would look at some of the other threads on here... they answer quite a few of your questions...

It does not matter to med schools where you go to college as long as you do well in pre-reqs and the MCAT and do your ECs (Volunteering, Shadowing, ect.)

I wouldn't call Brown exactly easy btw...
 
Oh oh I didn't mean to say it's really easy
Just compared to other programs where you DO have to take MCAT and have to maintain high GPA, instead of Brown (where it's just really hard to get in and do well in the last four years).
 
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Oh oh I didn't mean to say it's really easy
Just compared to other programs where you DO have to take MCAT and have to maintain high GPA, instead of Brown (where it's just really hard to get in and do well in the last four years).

I'm a little confused. You'd still have to take the MCAT and have a high GPA even at Brown to get into medical school.
 
Ah, gotcha... kind of...

I think the OP's talking about an accelerated program...
 
Ah, gotcha... kind of...

I think the OP's talking about an accelerated program...

its not accelerated. Its the same number of years (4 undergrad and 4 med school). Altho some programs are accellerated in that you may spend only 3 years in undergard.

I'm a little confused. You'd still have to take the MCAT and have a high GPA even at Brown to get into medical school.

the poster is probably talking about an 8 year program where you complete an undergraduate degree and a medical degree at the same institution. For this, you apply right out of high school. Some schools allow you to apply early like your freshman or sophmore year. But basically, youve already decided and been accepted to the med school of your choice in your first year of college. Now all the schools are different, but in order to keep your acceptance into the med school you have maintain a minimum GPA and a minimum MCAT score. For some programs (Brown included) they dont even make you take teh MCAT. You just have to get a minimum GPA and you automatically transfer into the MD program after four years. This is how it as at UCSD as well. Now to get accepted into this track is VERY competitive, and thats what the poster is talking about. ONce you are in to the program, you still have to work hard and maintain a certain GPA, but its not nearly as stressful as if you were to apply to Boston via the regular application cycle. Make sense? These programs are offered at quite a few different schools.......UCSD, USC, Boston, Miami, etc etc.

EDIT: Here I found a list of schools that offer the combined BA/MD program I am talking about. You can click the link of the school and probably learn the requirements for each (eg which ones require MCAT and which ones do not, minimum GPA, etc etc).
 
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its not accelerated. Its the same number of years (4 undergrad and 4 med school). Altho some programs are accellerated in that you may spend only 3 years in undergard.


Ah, see I have this condition called stupidity where occasionally I can't do simple math. Sorry about that...
 
I'm just a little confused on how everything in ur med career works out..
You go to college, med school, and then what? If one goes to Brown PLME and finish 8 years, what do they afterwards if they're interested in radiology?

I think I'm really confused about residency...?

P.S. Oh, since Brown's considered... not as hard (after getting in) as other schools, does it hurt your chances after you finish school?
To address this specific question...

The quick and easy answer is, to become a board certified physician in a certain specialty, you would need to complete a medical residency in that specialty and pass that specialty boards. For board certified radiologists: you must have completed a radiology residency (which is effectively 5 years) and passed your radiology board examinations (which consist of 3 tests). Different residency specialties may have different time requirements to be eligible to take your specialty boards and graduate.

Technically speaking, the only requirement to be able to legally practice any kind of medicine in the United States is to obtain a state license. And as far as I know, to obtain a state license all you have to do is complete at least one year of residency training. After that point, you can technically perform any kind of medicine you wish assuming the hospital allows you to. Practically speaking, almost no hospital will hire you and give you "privileges" to perform specialized medical procedures on their premises unless you are board certified in that particular specialty.

To confuse you even more... there are exceptions to the rule. Emergency medicine is a good example. Even though emergency medicine is technically its own specialty with its own residency and specialty boards, MANY (if not most) emergency medicine physicians are not board certified in emergency medicine. Usually they are either board certified in either family medicine or internal medicine, but some aren't board certified in anything at all. I know one EM doc that had only completed one year of general surgery residency before getting hired as an emergency medicine physician at a small community hospital.

In many rural area hospitals, even family medicine physicians are given privileges to perform certain general surgery procedures (particularly cholecystectomies, appendectomies and hernia repair). I have even heard of a family medicine doctor that had to perform a craniotomy (I believe it was because of an epidural hematoma). The hospital permitted him to go ahead with the operation so it was perfectly legal (the patient survived, btw).
 
O. Chem is gonna be great for you!!

Mmm... normally I'm fairly smart on paper though. My head on the other hand... it's a tad disorganized.

For instance in when I work a problem in math class it's obvious that 4+4=8. In my head four plus four equals... I wonder if I should go get dinner now or if I should start laundry and then go, or I could try to find something here... wait I still have to finish typing this, but I really need to get that laundry done before I get dinner but I really want chinese and I don't think I'll have time to start laundry and for the chinese place to still be open so I guess I'll just go and then come back and start my laundry later...
 
no, I was just kidding!! haha.

I completely understand, I sucked at math (calculus, statistics ect).... had to work my tail off for those grades.

But I am serious about O.Chem being good for you, see I had problems with general chemistry (all the formulas and stuff) but when I got to O. Chem I aced the class.

So I was just kidding, and kind of being a bit serious at the same time.
 
For instance in when I work a problem in math class it's obvious that 4+4=8. In my head four plus four equals... I wonder if I should go get dinner now or if I should start laundry and then go, or I could try to find something here... wait I still have to finish typing this, but I really need to get that laundry done before I get dinner but I really want chinese and I don't think I'll have time to start laundry and for the chinese place to still be open so I guess I'll just go and then come back and start my laundry later...[/quote]

see that's more of what I am talking about, you are like me in that respect. I am ADD for sure (not saying you are) but I have the attention span of a goldfish sometimes and its just focusing and then I am fine. Also it could be that the stuff your mind wanders to is probably more entertaining then what you are currently working on.
 
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Haha, I really am ADD. Mom had me tested a while back and apparently I have "severe tendencies towards Overfocused/intensive ADD" and something else that's called "Ring of Fire ADD"... oh well, the medicine helps me out a ton though; normally it takes me down from 'uber-spaz' to 'kind of spastic'.
 
ochem has nothing to do with math. or were you joking that b/c he can't even do simple math he will have trouble with ochem? If its the latter, carry on. If its the former, 👎

She. And I think it was just my math skills... which I'm not completely useless in by the way... It's certainly not my best subject, but I always scrape out an A in the end...
 
haha yea that sounds awfully familiar...like my daily normal.

Don't worry you'll do fine in college... i've managed...and if i can you can
 
She. And I think it was just my math skills... which I'm not completely useless in by the way... It's certainly not my best subject, but I always scrape out an A in the end...

my apologies, miss.
 
haha yea that sounds awfully familiar...like my daily normal.

Don't worry you'll do fine in college... i've managed...and if i can you can

I'm not too concerned... I've only started on meds this passed year and I'm not doing any of that "Special Needs" crap so it won't be too much of a change for me.