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The hours thing was just an example, not directed at anyone. It wasn't supposed to be accurate either, just pointing out how hard it would be gor a 20 year old to be able to legitimately list 40,000 hours of animal experience like David said.

Personally, I DO think that farm stuff should count. I've only ever had cats and dogs, and they still told me they wanted to see it. Hence the confusion.

I probably won't, purely out of my own annoyance... I will just make sure that some part of my PS indicates that I've had pets my whole life.

Sumstorm, you will never hear me criticize any part of your experience/application. Never never. Lol.
 
:laugh: Lol.

Your example was VERY similar to something I had posted somewhere on here on how I calculated my experience. I wrote that I had included under animal experience 2 hours of chores x 6 days a week x 50 weeks a year x 8 years.

That is why I wondered!?! :hardy:

Oh, I like constructive criticism. I am trying to decide if I should enroll at a university this summer and take as many sciences as possible... but not sure what I would take, or if it would be worthwhile. I know I could handle a full science load with a high GPA if I wasn't working crazy hours. I wonder if that would improve my chances...and then, do I retake things like chem or do I try to sign up for upper levels? Not sure if the university will be ok with it. :shrug:
 
:laugh: Lol.

Your example was VERY similar to something I had posted somewhere on here on how I calculated my experience. I wrote that I had included under animal experience 2 hours of chores x 6 days a week x 50 weeks a year x 8 years.

That is why I wondered!?! :hardy:

Oh, I like constructive criticism. I am trying to decide if I should enroll at a university this summer and take as many sciences as possible... but not sure what I would take, or if it would be worthwhile. I know I could handle a full science load with a high GPA if I wasn't working crazy hours. I wonder if that would improve my chances...and then, do I retake things like chem or do I try to sign up for upper levels? Not sure if the university will be ok with it. :shrug:

Have you ever considered working for a Master's? I know there are some 1 year Masters programs out there that could possibly help your resume. The only problem is that unless you're teaching, you wont get paid 🙁

It sounds like you have an excellent application, so I'm shocked you haven't received an acceptance yet!
 
Let me take a look, but when I checked out UNCC before, I don't think they had 1 yr masters. And, to show my ignorance, what does one do in a 1 yr masters? I know a lot more about PhD programs than master's programs...the only Master's programs I know of are business, and I assume that wouldn't be helpful.
 
Sumstorm, I know (or have inferred at least) that moving far away might be a less than ideal situation for you. However, if you haven't already, you might want to look into Drexel's VMS program. I spoke with one of the guys from the program at the APVMA symposium last year, and the coursework is geared toward getting people into vet school. I know if I hadn't gotten in this year it would be one of the first options I explored. I'm not trying to push it, just offer up another option if you're not familiar with it. 🙂

http://www.drexelmed.edu/Home/Acade...grams/VeterinaryMedicalScienceVMSProgram.aspx
 
thanks Skillet, I appreciate the information. Dear hubby will want to throttle me.....


Hopefully NCSU will come through. but other options are good.

Wow, actually, they are very blunt about the intent to improve vet school apps! I like that.... I have a strong belief in honesty of intent so that sits really well with me. I really don't want to move that far...but it is a realistic option. Would have been easier when we were living in Jersey...or even NYC.
 
When will you find out for NCSU? (So I can cross my fingers for you :xf:)
 
tpad, from what I am hearing, it won't be till the teens of march. I am assuming at this point that I am a no go for Penn.

they have to announce by March 15th? is that correct? I know decisions for applicant acceptances are due april 15th.

Maybe I should look at NCSU and see if any of thier masters programs are one year. Oh, and I still haven't heard about my joing PhD app there either.

I hate waiting! Some days I feel like a petulant child....I want my turn NOW!

At least next month I have some seminars to attend.
 
Oh the waiting game is NOT fun :laugh:

Re: Penn, as someone who spends too much time on that thread, I know there is one more interview day they have yet to send out invites for (at least 30 people). That day is at the end of March, after their Spring break, so invites most likely will not come until early March. No ruling it out yet!!

As for the March 15th-theory, I sadly do not think that is the case 🙁 I know that Florida doesnt send acceptances/rejections until April 2nd or so after interviews...just one example. Its very cruel...
 
I have seen people talk about their one year masters programs, but i honestly can't tell you what they're in. i think they're mostly course based with no research. i'm in a 2 year thesis program, but in this type of program (the same with phd), 2 years can easily turn into 3. i have also looked into the drexel program, and it seemed like a valuable option.
 
oh, tpad, you crush my soul with that information! Better to know than not...but march will be busy for me, so hopefully not so torturous.

I will have to figure out where I read march 15th for regular offers.
 
Wow, actually, they are very blunt about the intent to improve vet school apps!

Yeah, the guy I talked to (one of, if not the founder(s) of the program....can't remember his name now) said that he knew students that were good candidates were getting turned down from vet school because of GPA and/or science GPA. He said he went around to a bunch of deans of different vet schools and met with them to ask specifically what types of courses would help those students' applications. He then built the coursework around what the deans had said.

He was a really nice guy, and it seemed to me that his general impression was that a lot of really great potential vets got shafted for next to no reason. From what I've heard -- no link to back it up right now -- they have a pretty decent acceptance rate for people who were previously rejected. IIRC, a bunch got into Penn, since they could be considered in state at that point, I think.

Anyway, like I said, just another option, but I'm crossing my fingers for you with NCSU! I have a good friend who goes there and she loves it! :xf:
 
tpad, from what I am hearing, it won't be till the teens of march. I am assuming at this point that I am a no go for Penn.

they have to announce by March 15th? is that correct? I know decisions for applicant acceptances are due april 15th.

Maybe I should look at NCSU and see if any of thier masters programs are one year. Oh, and I still haven't heard about my joing PhD app there either.

I hate waiting! Some days I feel like a petulant child....I want my turn NOW!

At least next month I have some seminars to attend.

I think the teens of March is a good guess for NCSU. I am an undergraduate there, and just this last week the four people who are 'Food Animal Scholars' got their acceptance letters. From what I hear, this usually happens 2-3 weeks before the rest of the applicant pool finds out.

As for one year master's programs, I am looking into a one year non-thesis Masters of Animal Science program as my backup in case I do not get in. I am not sure how a program like that would work with someone coming in from outside the school (I have taken a class or two in undergrad that will count) and I know I would have to go to summer school to get it done. Several of these programs are newer though, so if you find a graduate program/department you are interested in, I would advise emailing the Graduate Coordinator for that area with your questions. That was how I got in touch with the woman who is helping me apply!
 
What are 'Food Animal Scholars'?
'Food Animal Scholars' is a program they have at NC State ( and NCA&T) the takes in a small group of people interested in practicing on food animal species. You apply your junior year of undergrad and, if admitted, it is almost like a guaranteed spot at NCSU's vet school so long as you continue to perform well and meet all the minimum standards. They have other enrichment activites as well, but I do not know a lot about it because my interest is elsewhere. You can read about it here:

http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/an_sci/FoodAnimalScholars/

They always find out about admission early. I am pretty sure there were four of them this year, and they got their letters the middle of last week.
 
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I only know about it because I am an undergrad at NCSU and have had several friends apply. There is also a similar program called 'Lab Animal Scholars' at NCA&T, but it is even less well known, and I heard from someone at the Vet School that those two spots are rarely if ever used. This was all I could find on it:

http://www.ag.ncat.edu/press/may97/vetscho.htm
 
I think that suggesting that sub-standard GPA as a 'next to nothing' reason for 'getting shafted' belies the fact that quite a few folks here can't quite accept that academic performance/ability is a widely accepted indicator of what most vet schools are looking for: students with outstanding potential to succeed as veterinary professionals. I want my veterinarian to be a scholar, a gifted scientist, superb diagnostician and a passionate caregiver to our animals. If he/she can't put two thoughts together on paper or critically analyze scientific literature, it calls into question his/her ability to pull the rest together when the patient's on the table. Stop blaming the system, folks, and buckle down. The folks you refer to (who finally did), went to Penn. JMO
 
I want my veterinarian to be a scholar, a gifted scientist, superb diagnostician and a passionate caregiver to our animals. If he/she can't put two thoughts together on paper or critically analyze scientific literature, it calls into question his/her ability to pull the rest together when the patient's on the table. Stop blaming the system, folks, and buckle down. The folks you refer to (who finally did), went to Penn. JMO

This is going to come off as me tooting my own horn, but what that hell, I want to make a point... a point that many people in this thread have been reiterating concerning their own situations

I have 3 pubs now, one in a top tier, all first author
I have a grant pending (for 150K a year for 4 years)
I have 7 presentation/posters - 3 at the international level
I almost have complete dissertation

Ohh, and I have a 2.7 GPA from my Undergrad University... That GPA may very well keep me out of vet school

GPA is only one aspect of a students performance, and in my opinion, it is NOT necessarily a good indicator for "being gifted scientist" "a superb diagnostician (good sense of logic and rationale is just as important) or a "passionate caregiver"

A lot of the researchers I work with, whom I consider superb scientists have less then stellar GPA's
 
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Yes! Scholars, researchers, scientists, and otherwise very gifted and talented people don't always make straight As. It's usually a measure of ability based solely on test taking, paper writing, oral presentation... some people may retain information and regurgitate it easily and come out with perfect grades, but no one could say that they are guaranteed to make the best possible veterinarians because there are lots of other factors involved.


My GPA isn't excellent but I refuse to believe that it's a dealbreaker, and I also refuse to believe that it is an indication that I will not be an excellent veterinarian if given the chance.

And I don't really want to go to Penn - not sure why you brought it up. Is Penn supposed to be the holy grail or something? 🙄
 
If I recall correctly, Einstein only graduated with "fair grades", not a stellar GPA and I'd venture to say that he qualified as a "gifted scientist" and was able to "put two thoughts together" from time to time..... There's a lot more to people than numbers and a top scholar, though very intelligent may not be the greatest vet. Bedside manner and the ability to be personable account for a lot more than most people think.
 
Without question, a balanced, broad background is valued. There isn't a vet school in the nation (or abroad) demanding or expecting 'straight A's.' Your bias that prospective entrants who have performed well academically did so by regurgitating from texts sounds a bit immature. And defensive. Penn is not the holy grail by a long shot, by the way...just referred to what was mentioned in a previous post.

So...... after we all get over ourselves here, let's just say best wishes to all with the understanding that veterinary medicine (and human medicine) will be best served by those who can serve best. I wouldnt dream of presuming that I (or you) know better than the experts who are making admissions decisions. Which, by the way, are made after evaluating the entire package presented. Don't forget that past performance can be an indicator of future performance.
 
I feel I should add that I do understand what you're getting at, snowing. We can't just make bad grades and then expect to get in because "other things are important too." We know that. A good GPA in undergrad will often lead to a good GPA in vet school. But, this simply can't be the be-all-end-all for admissions, and that's kind of what we're tying to express here. If we could all just "buckle down" and pull up our GPA, I think we would. But in the amount of time it would take to make my GPA a 3.5, my classes would start to expire (over six years old) and I would end up in a vicious cycle of retaking classes...

Really, I would like to think some of the other positive aspects of my application would indicate to the adcoms that I am a good candidate.

Did you join the forum just tell us to stop whining? Lol.

Edit: I was typing while you were, as well. So, I'll add that I do trust adcoms 100%, of course. We may not understand how they make their decisions, but the decisions they make are good and should not be argued with - it's a hard job, and it's sometimes easy to criticize something that you are so far removed from. If we were in their shoes, well, we'd have some hard decisions to make as well.

And, of course I'm defensive about my GPA. It's my self-admitted weakness. Everyone is defensive of their weaknesses.
 
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GPA is only one aspect of a students performance, and in my opinion, it is NOT necessarily a good indicator for "being gifted scientist" "a superb diagnostician (good sense of logic and rationale is just as important) or a "passionate caregiver"

A lot of the researchers I work with, whom I consider superb scientists have less then stellar GPA's

This is sort of touched upon in the first paragraph, but man do I know plenty of people with undergrad GPAs of 4.0 or close to it who have no sense of being a scientist at all. A high GPA shows that you are reasonably intelligent and had a good work ethic at the time of getting the GPA. That's about it. It is perhaps a useful component if your work ethic remains the same, but really is not at all central to what most of what non-professional graduate study (becoming a "scientist") is about.

Me? My GPA from undergrad sucked. Which has absolutely dick all to do with my aptitude for scientific inquiry. I understand the need for metrics by which to compare applicants, and I know and accept that there's a chance I'll never be able to shake the low GPA monkey off to do what I want to do. However, I do get a certain satisfaction out of already having more research accomplished as a lowly first year MS student (who has to TA for funding) than a lot of the first and second year PhD students I know who got in because their grades were good (and have equal courseloads to me without the TA responsibilities). :meanie:
 
Snowing, I sincerly regret that I had to work over 40 hours a week thoughout college. Most weeks, I worked over 50 hours. Our education system is not set up for ADULTS whose parents will not assist or support them in college. I got up before most college students even consider waking, yes, even those with 4.0's, to deliver newspapers. I then attended classes, TA'd, and tutored, followed by the evening shift as a CNA for terminally ill patients. I generally arrived back home after 1am, went to bed, got back up, and did it all again. On weekends, after delivering papers, I went to the factory to work a 12 hour shift as a welder, both Saturday and Sunday. I was the only female on the floor. I took a heck of a lot of crap to pay for college because my parents said 'we supported ourselves from 16 on....so if you want to go to college, good luck to you, but we consider it a waste of time.' To pay for room and board, I also served as an RA. I was fortunate to attend an awesome undergrad, but the reality is, I didn't have time to study enough to bring in anything better than the 3.4 I earned. I have since attended a state school to take biochem and genetics along with other courses, and I can say that in all honesty, those upper level courses were not as demanding as my undergrad lower levels.

You can claim the educational system isn't broken, but if that were the case, from birth on we would all receive the same opportunities and the same necessities. No one would sit in classes in school hungry because there isn't money for food. All students would be able to attend the college they get into without struggling to pay for it, and if thier parents won't help, that would be taken into consideration, and aid would be provided.

If my ability to juggle insane work hours, difficult work that most people are not able to perform, along with a demanding course schedule including honors research and graduating magna cum laude (top 3% of my graduating class) doesn't compare to students who proved themselves through straight academics with minimal external demands, then there IS something wrong with the methodology. Especially since I am in an economic position where I can attend vet school without loans and without working. I wonder if that might actually improve my academic ability?

I despise when people suggest that the system is correct that GPA is the ultimate indicator of success or ability. I know there are others out there that have had to balance as much as I have...but I also know far more haven't. I would challenge any of those individuals who value GPA as meaning more than the juggling of full time work and education to live the 4 years as I did and obtain a higher GPA at as rigorous of a school.
 
I have to echo Sumstorm here. I worked through undergrad, too, though not as much as she did because I had a scholarship. I also dealt with a lot of personal issues in my immediate family that affected my performance. My GPA was a 3.22. I was just accepted into vet school. As one of the doctors interviewing me said "it's about time management. You can be as smart and good at studying as you want, but you'll never make it through without good time management."

I don't think anyone here is deluding themselves. We all value academics and all wish our GPAs were higher. However, the adcoms know that GPA isn't the end all be all. The entire applicant matters and some of us have acheived a lot beyond GPA to get past the stigma of "past performance", academics wise.
 
I have to echo Sumstorm here. I worked through undergrad, too, though not as much as she did because I had a scholarship. I also dealt with a lot of personal issues in my immediate family that affected my performance. My GPA was a 3.22. I was just accepted into vet school. As one of the doctors interviewing me said "it's about time management. You can be as smart and good at studying as you want, but you'll never make it through without good time management."

I don't think anyone here is deluding themselves. We all value academics and all wish our GPAs were higher. However, the adcoms know that GPA isn't the end all be all. The entire applicant matters and some of us have acheived a lot beyond GPA to get past the stigma of "past performance", academics wise.


I have to ditto that post!
 
Pandacinny, I had several scholarships.... which made OOS private cheaper than IS public. It's hard, though, if your parents won't agree to completing a FAFSA. and parental refusal to cooperate isn't a suitable excuse for not having thier information. I quickly realized how absurd our educational financing system is. You can be sent to war, and be given the death sentence, but even if your parents disown you, if they won't cooperate, you are going to have problems with educational financing if you are under 24 (or, apparently, your entire life if you want certain loans for graduate/medical/veterinary education.)
 
Sumstorm, NCSU has a 1 year masters program in Physiology, which they say is designed for people who want to improve their science grades for prof school. It's even run through the CVM. Just something to think about if you are already planning on moving to Raleigh if you get into vet school.

From the website (http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/physiology/intro.htm)

In addition, the program offers a Master of Physiology (MOP) non-thesis degree. This ia a terminal degree appropriate for students seeking to improve their academic credentials to become competitive for admission to professional schools or individuals desiring to improve their knowledge of advanced physiology.



Also, something else to think about. When I went to the info session at VMRCVM, they noted that they almost automatically discount applications where the applicant claims animal experience hours in excess of 15,000...because most of the applicants are 20 and it is physically impossible for them to have accrued that much experience. Maybe if you re-apply, put in your equation (2 hours a day * 8 years or whatever) so that they see that you aren't just bull****ting and saying that you cared for your pets 24 hours a day.
 
I can't help but feel this sense of doom that everyone seems to be talking about. This is my second time appyling, and I have been waitlisted at NCSU(IS) and MN. I felt good about MN, but as for NC this irritated me. I felt accomplished at MN. I think there is a good chance that I can get in because I am really low on the list. I felt pretty down about NC, but now feel like I may be better off at SGU, which graduates amazing vets. I have been told that NCSU is going down hill and doesn't produce really great graduates. Even still, I would want to go hear because it is the cheapest, and I think it is still a good school for what I want.

I am one of those students who worked 40 to 48 hours a week to support myself through school, which included an overnight job, a 3-11 job, and tutoring. Not only did I do that, but I still mainted a 3.6 something GPA, which I feel is pretty good for the amount I was taking on. Yes, it isn't a 4.0, but when you consider all the stuff I did; It is pretty darn good. My last 45 hours were a 3.85. I also had family problems in those years and didn't disclose that on my application because I didn't think it was any of their business.

In addition to my grades, I have a lot of experience and am well rounded. So, I sit here wondering why I wasn't chosen for my IS, which picks 62 students. I read others statistics who got in to NC and see mine are better than some. I have really good recommendations. I really just don't understand and wish they could give me a reason as to why I wasn't chosen. Maybe it is that I don't have a 1300 GRE score... At least I can see how excited everyone else is and live through them. As I said before, I hope I get into SGU. I would be really delighted to go there, too. The only problem is that my sig. oth. could not come 🙁. I guess I wil cross that bridge if I come to it.

Also, my flat out rejection from Purdue irritated me. The reason for this is because they sent me a letter on where I compared with other applicants. I was on par with the GRE and much higher on all other aspects. So, what did I do? I called them. The woman on the other line could not tell me anything and said she didn't know because according to what she saw, I should have been interviewed. I feel like I received nothing out of that and just said well I guess this school isn't for me. But, it is things like what happened with Purdue that irritate me. Why did they discard my application? Was it a mistake? Argh. I really didn't want to go that school anyway; I just thought I could get in. However, it still makes me mad.
 
II have been told that NCSU is going down hill and doesn't produce really great graduates.

I do not mean to hijack the thread. Where did you "hear" this from?

Hang in there! The application process can be very discouraging. Try to stay postitive, the waitlists have not started to move yet. I am pulling for you.
 
I heard it from a couple of different vets. I still think it is a very good school, but I haven't attended! I heard this last year. It is only two opinions, and it didn't sway my opinion at all to apply there. It was surgeon who worked at the vet school from time to time and just had said they were going downhill in picking candidates. For instance, people who had really good grades and gre. I don't think this is all true because according to some stats I saw there were people without extremely great gardes and gres that got in! I think she was saying just on average they will automatically take those people with the high grades/gre with little experience and then they look at more well rounded applicants. As I have said, I still think it is a great school and hope I get in. I do think the process sucks and it just depends on who sees your application. There are so many great applicants and not enough spots. Of course I feel like I should have got in, but we will see!

Thanks for the support. I appreciate it. I wish you best of luck in school! Have fun and learn a lot!

P.S. I think I just read a post you had about the rejection from NCSU. Last year when I was rejected, they only offered the group session! They refused to go over your application individually. I don't know how they will be this year.

Oh and anyone waiting for the waitlist to NCSU--I spoke with Tammy, and she couldn't give me any information on how the committee selects off the waitlist. She said they just meet if someone declines.... 🙁
 
I have been told that NCSU is going down hill and doesn't produce really great graduates. Even still, I would want to go hear because it is the cheapest, and I think it is still a good school for what I want.

Also, my flat out rejection from Purdue irritated me. The reason for this is because they sent me a letter on where I compared with other applicants. I was on par with the GRE and much higher on all other aspects. So, what did I do? I called them.

I heard the same about NCSU recently, and I decided that I DON"T care...if it isn't the best, then I will compensate for that. I don't think I believe it though (I heard it from our associate vet who is a michigan grad.)

I am right there with you about Purdue. It was the WORST rejection I received because my stats were at the top of their charts, well above thier averages, EXCEPT GPA where I was slightly (0.01) below the average for overall. They couldn't even give me a reason why I didn't get an interview. Basicly, I was told it should have been apparent on the sheet, but that it wasn't apparent to the woman I was talking to, and that essentially if I wanted to know, I needed to wait till after April to find out, and then that I should try to come in for a meeting. I actually plan on doing that...hopefully scheduling a visit with the family around the same time.

Anyways, I don't now what to suggest about NCSU.... I think, from my discussions with them, that it is really important to have breadth + depth in at least three vet fields. The general definition of depth seems to be 100 hours. Hopefully by the time August rolls around I will get to see you there!
 
You might ask Tammy if you could submit an update of your experience to include anything since you submitted VMCAS....might suggest to the committee that you are seriously interested and still working towards that goal.
 
I feel like NCSU is one of the better schools in the U.S. because of the hands on experience early on. It is what you make of it, and everyone should feel honored about going there in my opinion!

Purdue is crazy then! I am glad someone else received the same kind of "I don't know why" when calling them. It is just crazy. I just thought maybe the comittee didn't like something in my personal statement...if it was even looked at.

I kind of asked Tammy that today, and she didn't say anything. So, I am thinking of when the time gets closer I will ask again. I have thousands of hours in small animal, 300 hours in large animal with some zoo animals mixed in, 100 in lab animal, 500 hours in research, thousands in animal experience, 100 in marine mammals. Hmmm? Since my application, I have had 800 more hours in research(different area) and 60 hours with big cats---do you think that would help me any more?? I thought my experience was pretty good. I worked in India for a little while with elephants so that is really cool you did too in Thailand.
 
Oh, gee! I feel your pain! When I started this thread NCSU was the only one I was waiting to hear from. Any possabilities of problems with eLors or PS?

I hate that Purdue couldn't even tell me if they had read the PS. Argh
 
I know my elors are all really good. I thought my ps was good; I read it again recently and still thought it was good. Maybe they didn't think so. Haha. Who knows really. You never know with vet school! Maybe it is because I have a strong interest in zoo medicine, and I have the most experience in small animals? I don't think it will do my any good to keep pondering. 😛 Here is to hoping for MN, NC, or SGU!

Let me know if you get anything out of Purdue! I would definitely like to hear what they had to tell you. I don't think I will call them again since I didn't really want to go there.
 
One of the things I eneded my PS with was that while epizootics is my primary interest, the exposure to other oppurtunities in vet school may lead me down other paths...kind of a 'yes, but' clause which I think really helped (I didn't come up with it, an editor friend suggested it, because I didn't want to sound like I had no idea what I wanted, but at the same time Ididn't want it to sound like I wasn't potentially interested in other fiels of vet med.)

Purdue is the vet school I grew up with, so it probably caused me more pain (And it was my first rejection.)
 
Ah, Optimistic that is tough. Have you been accepted out of state? Sometimes it is just so crazy that people get in out of state where you have less of chance and don't get in state where you have more of a chance.

Are you from Boston? I grew up in Ma, and moved down to NC when I was 20.
 
Optimistic:

I think it would be cool if they sat down with the candidate and maybe went over where you went wrong for their process!

I wish there were more vet schools!!!!!!
 
Awesome on the acceptance.

I miss MA so much! Winters aren't that bad 😛. I guess I am used to them, and I like the cold. They had a bad winter this year! Where are you working there? What made you decide to apply for a job up there? 🙂
 
Sumstorm, NCSU has a 1 year masters program in Physiology, which they say is designed for people who want to improve their science grades for prof school. It's even run through the CVM. Just something to think about if you are already planning on moving to Raleigh if you get into vet school.

From the website (http://www.cals.ncsu.edu/physiology/intro.htm)

In addition, the program offers a Master of Physiology (MOP) non-thesis degree. This ia a terminal degree appropriate for students seeking to improve their academic credentials to become competitive for admission to professional schools or individuals desiring to improve their knowledge of advanced physiology.



Also, something else to think about. When I went to the info session at VMRCVM, they noted that they almost automatically discount applications where the applicant claims animal experience hours in excess of 15,000...because most of the applicants are 20 and it is physically impossible for them to have accrued that much experience. Maybe if you re-apply, put in your equation (2 hours a day * 8 years or whatever) so that they see that you aren't just bull****ting and saying that you cared for your pets 24 hours a day.

If you are interested in this program and have any specific questions, I'm going to be seeing a presentation about it tomorrow- I can ask anything you wish to know. 🙂

I am far away from applying, but I really do wish there was more transparency in the application process. It is also a serious 👎 that ncsu doesn't do individual applicant reviews.
 
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