Info on IS, OOS, intl applicants, acceptees?

[medhearter]

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[AdemTD]

Hey all,

I've been trying to find this online, but so far my search hasn't yielded any fruit. Anyone here maybe be able to guide me as to where to look ? I just need to understand which schools are heavy IS-takers, and which not so much. I realize that there are some schools that don't take any int'ls, but for the ones that do.. I still need to understand if its a very small proportion (relative to US citizens/PRs) or not.

Please do help!

medhearter

I know MSUCOM gives heavy preference to instate students, and I would imagine the same would be true of any other public D.O. school. Luckily, many of them are private.

 

[FlaMedic]

Ive heard MSUCOM, Ohio and of course TCOM all give strong preference toward in-staters as they are state supported schools.

 

[CardioPlus]

UMDNJ, also public, has an in-state preference

 

[The Poet Sings]

UMDNJ, also public, has an in-state preference

I've heard that it only appears that they have a preference because of how easy it is for someone to become a state resident. Something about getting your driver's license there or changing the vehicle registration. This is only what I've heard, though, and may or may not be true, but I figured I'd put it out there.

 

[lastcall]

Probably OSU-COM too.

 

[NontradICUdoc]

UMDNJ, also public, has an in-state preference

no. It does not.

If you are out of state, there is no preference. You will pay out of state tuition for 1 year. After your first year, show your lease agreement that proves that you have been a NJ resident for 1 year, have a NJ drivers license and if your car is your own, have a NJ registration, then you are considered to be in state and will be given in state tuition.

 

[teenie]

All of the VA schools have IS preference but if you get an OOS interview then your chances are better at getting in. CT schools also prefer IS. I would only apply to DC schools if you have outstanding stats and if you applied NOW because they have high preference for alumni.

 

[CardioPlus]

no. It does not.

If you are out of state, there is no preference. You will pay out of state tuition for 1 year. After your first year, show your lease agreement that proves that you have been a NJ resident for 1 year, have a NJ drivers license and if your car is your own, have a NJ registration, then you are considered to be in state and will be given in state tuition.

Well I wasn't talking about getting in-state status towards tuition after the first year, which is easy to do in NJ. I was simply referring to UMDNJ showing a preference towards in-state applicants. This is some data from the 2007 application cycle:

Fall 2007 Admissions Statistics Total admissions data 3386 applied, 389 interviewed, 186 were accepted, 108 enrolled In-state admissions data 522 applied, 201 interviewed, 129 were accepted, 86 enrolled Out-state admissions data 2864 applied, 188 interviewed, 57 were accepted, 22 enrolled Women admissions data 1760 applied, 199 interviewed, 100 were accepted, 54 enrolled Minor admissions data 1717 applied, 129 interviewed, 64 were accepted, 42 enrolled International admissions data 0 applied, 0 interviewed, 0 were accepted, 0 enrolled
NJ residents (at the time of application) made up 69% of the total accepted students. In the end, 79% of those who enrolled were NJ residents. I would say that this reflects a preference towards ISS.
I have no doubt that 95+% of the students changed their residency to NJ after the 1st year or at some point. I mean I would too, if I went there. It's just that I was not talking about this point earlier, this thread was simply about applicants and school's that have an in-state preference.

 

[NontradICUdoc]

Again. No. UMDNJ has no IS or OOS preference.

 

[FlaMedic]

Again. No. UMDNJ has no IS or OOS preference.

Ok, so your saying that UMDNJ does have IS preference?



lol.

 

[teenie]

Hey all,

I've been trying to find this online, but so far my search hasn't yielded any fruit. Anyone here maybe be able to guide me as to where to look ? I just need to understand which schools are heavy IS-takers, and which not so much. I realize that there are some schools that don't take any int'ls, but for the ones that do.. I still need to understand if its a very small proportion (relative to US citizens/PRs) or not.

Please do help!

medhearter

http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/msar.htm
check out this site. it gives you all the info you need. 😀

 

[PunkmedGirl]

Ok, so your saying that UMDNJ does have IS preference?



lol.

They don't have a preference is what he is saying. And I guess he would know since he is a student there.🙄

 

[Chocolate Bear]

http://www.aamc.org/students/applying/msar.htm
check out this site. it gives you all the info you need. 😀

Do you realize that doesn't have DO schools in it?

 

[PunkmedGirl]

do you realize that doesn't have do schools in it?

lmao.

 

[DO2Be2013]

Again. No. UMDNJ has no IS or OOS preference.

I know you're a student there and so some deference to your knowledge is warranted... but the data is pretty convincing. How do you explain that NJ residents made up 15% of the applicant pool but 52% of the interviewee pool? 39% of in-state applicants were granted interviews and only 7% of out-of-state applicants were granted interviews... 25% of in-state applicants were accepted and only 2% of out-of-state applicants were accepted.

How could this possibly reflect anything other than an in-state preference? I can't believe the statistical differences in GPA, MCAT, etc. between the two groups were so great...

 

[NontradICUdoc]

There is no convincing you so you believe what you believe and I will leave it at that. If you want to apply, apply. If you do not, do not. Good luck.

 

[Anita817]

I didn't look up stats myself, but I pretty much took it as IS preference when schools had HUGE discrepancies between IS ond OOS tuition. Ex: MSUCOM IS tuition-$28,462 ; MSUCOM OOS tuition-$63,659

 

[DO2Be2013]

There is no convincing you so you believe what you believe and I will leave it at that. If you want to apply, apply. If you do not, do not. Good luck.

Who said there is no convincing me? Geez. I asked the question, because like many others here, the data seems to me to be overwhelmingly supportive of the fact that UMDNJ disporportionately selects for in-state applicants, by a great margin. So I figured there must be something we're all not getting here, and I looked to your firsthand knowledge about the school for an explanation. Had you offered any kind of logical reason for your statement I certainly would've accepted it. All you explained was the residency requirement for getting in-state status after first year, but that doesn't clarify anything about the admissions statistics.

And, obviously, I will not be applying because I am already done with the application cycle and have joined PCOM's entering class. But I do recall, when working with my pre-med advisor last summer to narrow down a list of schools, she felt strongly that my chances at UMDNJ were slim precisely because they are a public state school and I am not a NJ resident. I think a lot of us are confused by your statements versus the apparent data and were just looking for some kind of explanation. Sorry I asked.

 

[Tuckermans]

UNECOM has a small preference for applicants from New England States (NH, VT, ME, MA, RI and CT). The admissions website states that 60% of students come from those 6 states and the other 40% from other parts of the country.

 

[NontradICUdoc]

Who said there is no convincing me? Geez. I asked the question, because like many others here, the data seems to me to be overwhelmingly supportive of the fact that UMDNJ disporportionately selects for in-state applicants, by a great margin. So I figured there must be something we're all not getting here, and I looked to your firsthand knowledge about the school for an explanation. Had you offered any kind of logical reason for your statement I certainly would've accepted it. All you explained was the residency requirement for getting in-state status after first year, but that doesn't clarify anything about the admissions statistics.

And, obviously, I will not be applying because I am already done with the application cycle and have joined PCOM's entering class. But I do recall, when working with my pre-med advisor last summer to narrow down a list of schools, she felt strongly that my chances at UMDNJ were slim precisely because they are a public state school and I am not a NJ resident. I think a lot of us are confused by your statements versus the apparent data and were just looking for some kind of explanation. Sorry I asked.

I will try ONE more time: As per Mrs. Paula Watkins, Director of Admissions:

"We have NO in-state or out of state preference".

I do not know how they got their figures. There are people who come here from out of state to attend the Graduate program and since that is 1 year, that makes them a NJ resident. Maybe that is it. I do not know. What I do know is what I was told directly from the Director of Admissions.

If you are an OOS student, there is no reason not to apply. There is no preference for IS or OOS. If you do not believe me, call the admissions office.

From the Information book from AACOM:

First-Year Class Matriculants’
Selection Factors
Applicants must be U.S. citizens or permanent
residents to apply. Applicants must have completed
their bachelor’s degree prior to matriculation
to UMDNJ-School of Osteopathic Medicine.
Any undergraduate major is acceptable, however
students must complete prerequisite coursework
prior to matriculation. Applicants must show
academic ability and the ability to succeed in a
medical education program. Applicants are also
evaluated on their knowledge of osteopathic
medicine, their exploration of the profession
and their motivation to enter the profession. An
admission to UMDNJ-School of Osteopathic
Medicine is on a rolling admissions basis and
favors the early applicant. Applications are
accepted from out-of-state applicants. All application
materials should be received prior to
the application deadlines to be given adequate
consideration. UMDNJ-School of Osteopathic
Medicine does not discriminate on the basis
of race, religion, national origin, sex, age or
disability.

There is nothing in the book that states preference for in state or out of state.

And since you are going to PCOM. Good luck and I wish you the best success in your studies.

 

[scummie]

I didn't look up stats myself, but I pretty much took it as IS preference when schools had HUGE discrepancies between IS ond OOS tuition. Ex: MSUCOM IS tuition-$28,462 ; MSUCOM OOS tuition-$63,659

Add WVSOM to that list. IS: $20,426 and OOS: $50,546.

 

[Semicolon]

Who said there is no convincing me? Geez. I asked the question, because like many others here, the data seems to me to be overwhelmingly supportive of the fact that UMDNJ disporportionately selects for in-state applicants, by a great margin. So I figured there must be something we're all not getting here, and I looked to your firsthand knowledge about the school for an explanation. Had you offered any kind of logical reason for your statement I certainly would've accepted it. All you explained was the residency requirement for getting in-state status after first year, but that doesn't clarify anything about the admissions statistics.

And, obviously, I will not be applying because I am already done with the application cycle and have joined PCOM's entering class. But I do recall, when working with my pre-med advisor last summer to narrow down a list of schools, she felt strongly that my chances at UMDNJ were slim precisely because they are a public state school and I am not a NJ resident. I think a lot of us are confused by your statements versus the apparent data and were just looking for some kind of explanation. Sorry I asked.

I'm pretty sure that statistic is a bit skewed because it's incredibly easy to gain residency in NJ and be considered "in-state". I don't know the exact details however...