I got an interview invitation for a program that I really wanted, but it conflicted with my INOVA Fairfax interview date. I just wanted to ask if anyone knows anything about the INOVA program before I cancel it, since it's new and all... thanks!
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I don't know personally from it (other than having taken my brother there for a non-surgical issue) but it is a very well respected program; great trauma for a community setting, etc. Nice hospital, also well respected by the community in the area.
Are you sure its new? I know they affiliated with MCV/VCU (whatever its called now) a few years back, but the surgery residency has been there for awhile.
I think if you do a search for it in this forum you will see several threads in which it is mentioned.
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I've also heard that it's a solid program. Certainly one of the better community programs in the country. But, like Kim Cox, I have no personal/first hand experience with the place.
And I also don't think it's that new. It was around when I was applying (five years ago) and I think by then they'd already split off from MCV.
And I also don't think it's that new. It was around when I was applying (five years ago) and I think by then they'd already split off from MCV.
Sorry, when I said new, I meant "relatively new" compared to the rest of the programs I'm interviewing with. From what I gathered from the ACGME website, I think the program started in 2002? I could be wrong.
Should I be concerned that for a hospital that has 800+ beds, they only have 3 categoricals each year covering the service? Or do residents from other programs rotate there as well?
I'm torn between choosing Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn which has 5 categorical spots available, and INOVA Fairfax which has 3... I appreciate any thoughts!
Should I be concerned that for a hospital that has 800+ beds, they only have 3 categoricals each year covering the service? Or do residents from other programs rotate there as well?
I'm torn between choosing Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn which has 5 categorical spots available, and INOVA Fairfax which has 3... I appreciate any thoughts!
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I've never thought about it broken down by bed capacity before, but that sounds about right. Our big hospitals here have between 800-1000 beds, and at any one time there are probably 6-7 residents (on pure G Surg services) working during the day. If the INOVA program is spread thin over many hospitals, yeah, that'll be a problem, but if the majority of their residents are on service at the aforementioned 800-bed place, then it'll be fine.
Of course other factors are important, such as how many regional surgical referrals that hospital gets, what types of cases are typically done, if there are lots of fellows or private attending coverage, etc.
Of course other factors are important, such as how many regional surgical referrals that hospital gets, what types of cases are typically done, if there are lots of fellows or private attending coverage, etc.
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Of 800 beds, how many are surgical beds?
If there is a huge inpatient medicine service or rehab, or neurosurgery, etc. I don't know if I would really worry about it much as a general surgery resident.
I love northern VA but because I have a brother and friends there and really enjoy Washington DC. INOVA Fairfax will be presumably more suburban than Brooklyn and is a really nice hospital but I've never been to Maimo so don't really know about the area.
If there is a huge inpatient medicine service or rehab, or neurosurgery, etc. I don't know if I would really worry about it much as a general surgery resident.
I love northern VA but because I have a brother and friends there and really enjoy Washington DC. INOVA Fairfax will be presumably more suburban than Brooklyn and is a really nice hospital but I've never been to Maimo so don't really know about the area.
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As others have said, 800+ beds is about right. My program's only got three categoricals per year and we cover about that many. But if you're (mostly) on one campus that's not such a big deal.
I don't have first hand knowledge of the Maimo program either but no one I know there is particularly happy. I didn't apply to it back in the day myself. If I were you, I'd go with INOVA over Maimo.
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2002 is about right. I was applying in 2002-2003 and I think that was it's first year. And I'd call that brand-spanking new. They have less than 10 graduates out there in the world. There's no way to really assess a program with that sample size.
As for the 800 bed bit, Inova is a mostly private practice hospital. There are very likely non-teaching services.
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i did a 4th year rotation out there, absolutely loved it. very impressed with the attendings, one of the highest surgical volumes in the country, they have residents from army/navy, howard, GW all there. the residents never seemed stressed. i didn't apply there because of the location. but i as well as my classmates that rotated there were very impressed. facility wise, still one of the best places i've seen. i wouldn't count it out. however, 3 categoricals is challenging, the chances of you matching in NY is better than INOVA. maybe a phone call to the program would help re-arrange interview dates. they seem pretty cool in the office.
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Well, if their first intern class was in 2002, they have just finished so I doubt there is much history except for this year's graduating Chiefs to go on.
Hey Misyel - I interviewed at Inova a few weeks ago. PM me if you have any questions I could answer for you.
In brief, I was pretty impressed by the program. Strong trauma experience, good fellowship placement, nice area/hospital. The PD was wonderful, really excited about the program and actively improving it.
In brief, I was pretty impressed by the program. Strong trauma experience, good fellowship placement, nice area/hospital. The PD was wonderful, really excited about the program and actively improving it.
