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[yungspleen]

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If an IA is not on your unofficial transcript, is there any chance it shows up on the official transcript?

 

[I'm No Superman]

It could vary by undergrad, but I can't think of a way to have your application thrown out faster than not reporting an IA and then having it surface somewhere down the line during the cycle. All IA's have to be disclosed.

 

[777137]

If an IA is not on your unofficial transcript, is there any chance it shows up on the official transcript?

It not worth it. Some schools may ask for your record after your accepted. If you falsify your application, you can get blacklisted from AMCAS. This is coming from a guy with 5, as long as they're minor (NO cheating, plagiarism, stealing), you should be fine if you demonstrate growth from them.

But to answer your question, it is unlikely that it is on your official transcript. The only special thing on my transcript is that I completed my schools mandatory community service requirement.

 

[yungspleen]

Thanks for the replies, I just went ahead and listed it

 

[777137]

Thanks for the replies, I just went ahead and listed it

Good luck, have a response ready if they ask in an interview

 

[flapjack3d]

Mine was not on my unofficial but apparently is on the official. Call and ask.

 

[Goro]

The risk you take is, as we have already explained, that one of your LOR writers will write something like "yungspleen has grown so much since his/her transgression".

This does happen and my schools has outright rejected people for it. then there's always that business that AMCAS requires you to disclose it, transcript evidence or not. Do you really want to live with this sword over your head?

If it's something stupid like an underage drinking violation, alcohol or pot in your dorm room, peeing on the sidewalk, or even a DUI, these can be overlooked.

Cheating is another matter.

Do you can to share what the IA is? PM me if needed.

EDIT: just saw your response above. Just own the transgression and you should be fine.

If an IA is not on your unofficial transcript, is there any chance it shows up on the official transcript?

 

[abbie_toonie]

It not worth it. Some schools may ask for your record after your accepted. If you falsify your application, you can get blacklisted from AMCAS. This is coming from a guy with 5, as long as they're minor (NO cheating, plagiarism, stealing), you should be fine if you demonstrate growth from them.

But to answer your question, it is unlikely that it is on your official transcript. The only special thing on my transcript is that I completed my schools mandatory community service requirement.

I call bull****. There are schools that ask for your record before acceptance and before the interview process (IndianaU, WashU), but none ask after. It just doesn't make sense from a logistics standpoint to go through the pain of interviewing and then accepting someone before trying to find out if they have dirt.

 

[summergirl]

I call bull****. There are schools that ask for your record before acceptance and before the interview process (IndianaU, WashU), but none ask after. It just doesn't make sense from a logistics standpoint to go through the pain of interviewing and then accepting someone before trying to find out if they have dirt.

Actually it makes a lot of sense, because # of applicants>># of interviewees>># accepted. It's much easier and cheaper to just check the records of the small amount of accepted people as opposed to the larger interviewee pool or the much larger applicant pool.

 

[tskbdmnd]

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[abbie_toonie]

How far is pot allowable?

Not the OP, but I have an IA for pot that I disclosed this application cycle. My stats: 3.77gpa, 3.74sgpa, 512 MCAT, applied to 22 schools... only got 3 secondaries. I'm sure my IA has to do with that.

 

[tskbdmnd]

, We good

 

[abbie_toonie]

Actually it makes a lot of sense, because # of applicants>># of interviewees>># accepted. It's much easier and cheaper to just check the records of the small amount of accepted people as opposed to the larger interviewee pool or the much larger applicant pool.

That's not how it works. They don't ask the school you came from directly, that would undermine FERPA to an extent. Therefore the student him/herself must request for such records to be released to the university he's applying to.

And in such a case, reviewing the letter from an interviewee's Dean of Students would be just be a small extra step in addition to taking a look at the rest of the app.

In addition, asking students to submit such records after acceptance means that the application cycle isn't even over after acceptances are sent out, prolonging the cycle. The acceptances all would be conditional until receipt of the disciplinary conduct letter.

 

[Goro]

We were all young and stupid once.

Don't quote me.

 

[abbie_toonie]

So not only does the government take $5000 from me, my MD prospects go down? Why do we even have the eighth amendment?

lol... eh you're not a lost cause anyways. I'm glad I disclosed because I got secondaries to my top 2 (both state schools, low tuition). Else I would have been almost dead due to the anxiety.

 

[summergirl]

That's not how it works. They don't ask the school you came from directly, that would undermine FERPA to an extent. Therefore the student him/herself must request for such records to be released to the university he's applying to.

And in such a case, reviewing the letter from an interviewee's Dean of Students would be just be a small extra step in addition to taking a look at the rest of the app.

In addition, asking students to submit such records after acceptance means that the application cycle isn't even over after acceptances are sent out, prolonging the cycle. The acceptances all would be conditional until receipt of the disciplinary conduct letter.

95% of the schools don't ask interviewees for a record of any sort besides their transcript. Please go through the application cycle once yourself before commenting because what you said is simply not what happens.

 

[tskbdmnd]

So I didn't use an anonymous email to make this acc. Am I still anonymous?

 

[abbie_toonie]

95% of the schools don't ask interviewees for a record of any sort besides their transcript. Please go through the application cycle once yourself before commenting because what you said is simply not what happens.

Please learn how to parse a message. My statements were directed at schools that ask the student to produce a Dean's Letter directly, not the 95% figure you pulled out of your arse.

 

[abbie_toonie]

So I didn't use an anonymous email to make this acc. Am I still anonymous?

You should look up how the founder of Silk Road (the first centralized Dark Net market) was caught. Ross Ulbright signed up to a forum to promote the impending creation of his website with his personal gmail account. He quickly realized the mistake then changed his email o. However 3 years down the line investigators were able to track him down from that mistake he made before he even launched his marketplace. Even email changes on a website are detectable.

tldr: everything on the internet stays on the internet.

But you're not at his level of criminality. So no one cares about you.

 

[tskbdmnd]

You should look up how the founder of Silk Road (the first centralized Dark Net market) was caught. Ross Ulbright signed up to a forum to promote the impending creation of his website with his personal gmail account. He quickly realized the mistake then changed his email o. However 3 years down the line investigators were able to track him down from that mistake he made before he even launched his marketplace. Even email changes on a website are detectable.

tldr: everything on the internet stays on the internet.

But you're not at his level of criminality. So no one cares about you.

So I can't be a criminal when I grow up? Rats!

 

[summergirl]

Please learn how to parse a message. My statements were directed at schools that ask the student to produce a Dean's Letter directly, not the 95% figure you pulled out of your arse.

Were you this unpleasant on your applications as well? Maybe that's why you only got 3 secondaries out of 22 schools you applied to. Even only counting the schools that don't screen should have gotten you way more secondaries. In any case, assuming you are not completely crazy (I know it's a bold assumption but bear with me), you said that schools ask interviewees to produce a Dean's Letter before the interview based on, what, your personal experience of such incident (again, I'm making the bold assumption that you were once an interviewee)? You said you reported your IAs, but most interviewees don't have any IAs to report (including the OP because he's debating not reporting them), so your experience of having been asked to produce a Dean's Letter is not the norm for interviewees in general and doesn't apply in this case.

 

[abbie_toonie]

Were you this unpleasant on your applications as well? Maybe that's why you only got 3 secondaries out of 22 schools you applied to. Even only counting the schools that don't screen should have gotten you way more secondaries. In any case, assuming you are not completely crazy (I know it's a bold assumption but bear with me), you said that schools ask interviewees to produce a Dean's Letter before the interview based on, what, your personal experience of such incident (again, I'm making the bold assumption that you were once an interviewee)? You said you reported your IAs, but most interviewees don't have any IAs to report (including the OP because he's debating not reporting them), so your experience of having been asked to produce a Dean's Letter is not the norm for interviewees in general and doesn't apply in this case.

hypocrite. I can't wait come November and I'll have 3 acceptances to shove into your face.

Why you salty?

And I didn't get any requests for Dean's Letter my talk about them was hypothetical based on others' experiences.

 

[LizzyM]

Not the OP, but I have an IA for pot that I disclosed this application cycle. My stats: 3.77gpa, 3.74sgpa, 512 MCAT, applied to 22 schools... only got 3 secondaries. I'm sure my IA has to do with that.

When did you submit? It seems too early to give up on those 19 schools. Many don't pre-screen but they may be slow in sending out the secondaries.

 

[Lost In Transcription]

hypocrite. I can't wait come November and I'll have 3 acceptances to shove into your face.

Why you salty?

And I didn't get any requests for Dean's Letter my talk about them was hypothetical based on others' experiences.

Don't be rude to summergirl. It makes you look like an asshat.

Like LizzyM said, secondaries might be slow. Seems to be a common thing this year.

 

[Goro]

Or your list.

... the OP, but I have an IA for pot that I disclosed this application cycle. My stats: 3.77gpa, 3.74sgpa, 512 MCAT, applied to 22 schools... only got 3 secondaries. I'm sure my IA has to do with that.