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Since I can't find an easily-accessible list of integrated programs anywhere, I decided to engineer one for others that might be curious. Please let me know if I'm missing anything.

Stanford
USC
Loma Linda
Georgetown
University of South Florida
Hopkins
Brigham & Young/Harvard
UMich
Wake Forest
Yale
UVA
UPitt
Albany
University of Nevada
UC Irvine
Northwestern
Southern Illinois
University of Kansas
University of Kentucky
UMiss-Columbia
U of Cincinnatti
Baylor
UT-Galveston
UT-Southwestern: 5 YEARS
Medical College of Wisconsin: 5 YEARS
UWisc: 5 YEARS
 
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UMDNJ-NJMS has a combined program. It is currently a 5 year program (3 + 2) but it might get extended to a 6 year program.
 
NYU has a 6 year (3 + 3) program.
 
blz, i ...think... the OP was only listing/looking for integrated programs...Brown is also a 3/3 but it is a combined program, as is NYU and a bunch of others...you still match directly out of med school, you spend more time on general surgery your first 3 years than plastic or other services, (some programs you rotate through various services ....the perpetual rotator.) also you really gotta look at the curriculum, some are integrated in name only...really a combined program. As far as difference....the plastic training and requirements are the same, you still graduate as a plastic surgeon, it is just how the program was originally formed and who handles managing your schedule during the initial portion of the training. for a combined program the general surgery department handles all of your rotations, schedule, etc, for the non-plastic portion of your training. a true integrated program will be managed by the plastic department and they tell you where you will rotate, when, and with what service (some it may be all general surgery....others you may rotate with gen surg, then other blocks with other services.)
 
blz, i ...think... the OP was only listing/looking for integrated programs...Brown is also a 3/3 but it is a combined program, as is NYU and a bunch of others...you still match directly out of med school, you spend more time on general surgery your first 3 years than plastic or other services, (some programs you rotate through various services ....the perpetual rotator.) also you really gotta look at the curriculum, some are integrated in name only...really a combined program. As far as difference....the plastic training and requirements are the same, you still graduate as a plastic surgeon, it is just how the program was originally formed and who handles managing your schedule during the initial portion of the training. for a combined program the general surgery department handles all of your rotations, schedule, etc, for the non-plastic portion of your training. a true integrated program will be managed by the plastic department and they tell you where you will rotate, when, and with what service (some it may be all general surgery....others you may rotate with gen surg, then other blocks with other services.)


oh ok...thanks for the clarification. 👍
 
At least that means there are *more* straight-out-of-med-school programs than just the ones designated as "integrated" on the accreditation website. . .

So let's start a combined list, too!


Combined Programs
NYU
UMDNJ-NJMS
Brown
 
Combined Programs
Brown
UMDNJ-NJMS
NYU
 
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As I understand it, the combined programs won't disappear. The big change was the requirement that you either have complete GenSurg training, or you proceed to Plastics training after at least three years of GenSurg AT THE SAME INSTITUTION. No more doing three or four years and then going PRS somewhere else. I know a couple of people at my place who were hoping for that.

The bigger question is how are independent programs going to react to the requirement of THREE years of PRS training and some of the required areas that most independent programs probably don't cover. While the forced conversion of all programs to an integrated model (per the ACGME's directive) appears to be stalled for a while, most of the independent programs are going to have to fund a third year and work out relationships with several other departments in order to get their residents the training that the RRC says that they need.