Interesting Physician Shortage Article

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No mention of psychiatry, but it looks like we stand to make good in the next few years, if you choose to go in that direction.

See, Poety, it's a crisis that you'll benefit from. You can start the CN's college tuition fund with some hefty deposits.

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From the L.A. Times
June 4, 2006

Physician Shortage Looms, Risking a Crisis, as Demand for Care Explodes
An aging America needs more doctors, but supply isn't keeping up. Experts fear worsening quality and dangerously long waits for appointments.
By Lisa Girion, Times Staff Writer
June 4, 2006


A looming doctor shortage threatens to create a national healthcare crisis by further limiting access to physicians, jeopardizing quality and accelerating cost increases.

Twelve states — including California, Texas and Florida — report some physician shortages now or expect them within a few years. Across the country, patients are experiencing or soon will face shortages in at least a dozen physician specialties, including cardiology and radiology and several pediatric and surgical subspecialties.

The shortages are putting pressure on medical schools to boost enrollment, and on lawmakers to lift a cap on funding for physician training and to ease limits on immigration of foreign physicians, who already constitute 25% of the white-coated workforce.

But it may be too late to head off havoc for at least the next decade, experts say, given the long lead time to train surgeons and other specialists.

"People are waiting weeks for appointments; emergency departments have lines out the door," said Phil Miller, a spokesman for Merritt, Hawkins & Associates, a national physician search firm. "Doctors are working longer hours than they want. They are having a hard time taking vacations, a hard time getting their patients into specialists."

North Hollywood resident Anneliese Ohler, who had a cancerous lesion removed from her face several years ago, had to wait two months recently to see a dermatologist after her hairdresser — and then her primary doctor — told her they saw worrisome spots on the top of her head.

"I was lucky it was not cancer," said Ohler, 83. "But what if it had been?"

Experts say her wait was a symptom of a wider problem: Demand for doctors is accelerating more rapidly than supply.

The number of medical school graduates has remained virtually flat for a quarter century, because the schools limited enrollment out of concern that the nation was producing too many doctors. But demand has exploded, driven by population gains, a healthy economy and a technology-driven boom in physicians' repertoires, which now include such procedures as joint replacement and liposuction.

Over the next 15 years, aging baby boomers will push urologists, geriatricians and other physicians into overdrive. Their cloudy eyes alone, one study found, could boost the demand for cataract surgery by 47%.

Yet, much of the nation's physician workforce also is graying and headed for the door. A third of the nation's 750,000 active, post-residency physicians are older than 55 and likely to retire just as the boomer generation moves into its time of greatest medical need.

By 2020, physicians are expected to hang up their stethoscopes at a rate of 22,000 a year, up from 9,000 in 2000. That is only slightly less than the number of doctors who completed their training last year.

At the same time, younger male physicians and women — who constitute half of all medical students — are less inclined to work the slavish hours that long typified the profession. As a result, the next generation of physicians is expected to be 10% less productive, Edward Salsberg, director of the Assn. of American Medical Colleges' Center for Workforce Studies, told a congressional committee in May.

Although some communities still enjoy a glut of physicians, shortages have arrived in many places. One in five U.S. residents lives in a rural or urban area that has so few physicians that the federal government considers it to be medically underserved.

The scarcity hit home for Dr. Robert Werra three years ago when he tried to find a family practitioner to fill his shoes before he retired from a medical group that he helped found in the Northern California city of Ukiah.

Despite nibbles from physicians in the Midwest, Werra couldn't persuade a single one to pay a visit. In the end, his patients were added to his colleagues' caseloads, extending wait times in a practice that is now closed to newcomers.

"We can't get any family doctors to come here," said Werra, 75.

Experts worry that Werra's experience is becoming more common, and not just in rural communities. The nation's physician workforce is approaching a tipping point, beyond which patients face dangerously long wait times and distances to see physicians. Or they get more care from nurses, physician assistants and other substitutes, whose ranks also are stretched thin. Or they go without.

Wait times for appointments are a sign of the emerging strain. The wait to see a dermatologist for a routine skin cancer examination in 15 big cities including Los Angeles averaged 24 days, according to a 2004 survey by Merritt Hawkins.

For a routine gynecological checkup, women faced an average wait of 23 days, the survey showed. To see a cardiologist for a heart checkup, the wait was 19 days. And to have an orthopedic surgeon check out a knee injury, the average wait was 17 days.

Hospitals, practices and academic medical centers in places such as Los Angeles not considered healthcare backwaters report more difficulty recruiting physicians — primary care doctors and specialists alike. Headhunters charging as much as $30,000 per placement now count some of the nation's most prestigious medical centers as their clients.

It's even gotten more challenging for medical groups in resort communities from the Florida Keys to the Coachella Valley, places where it was once easier to recruit a doctor than it was to get a tee time.

"I can remember five, six years ago, I had general surgeons calling me, asking, 'Do I have a job?' " said Dr. Marc Hoffing, medical director of the Desert Medical Group in Palm Springs.

Pay offers have been rising steadily in places where practices and hospitals are competing most vigorously for available physicians.

With a greater premium on physicians, some experts fear an acceleration of a trend among some doctors to limit their practices to wealthy patients who can afford to pay cash. These so-called concierge practices further exacerbate the disparity in care between the rich and everyone else.

If nothing changes, experts say, the prognosis for the quality of healthcare is poor.

"People are going to really hurt," said Dr. Richard Cooper, a professor of medicine and economics at the University of Pennsylvania. "Right now we have well-trained nurse practitioners to pick up a lot of the work, but when even they are overwhelmed, the whole thing really falls apart. We're at the cusp, and it's a little worrisome."

How did so many smart people and groups —including the American Medical Assn. — predict a doctor glut not too long ago?

They say they bought into a notion that health maintenance organizations would ratchet down physician demand by promoting preventive care and reducing tests and procedures. Tightly managed care was expected to become so widespread and effective that it would put many physicians out of work.

"They said we'd all be driving taxicabs," recalled Dr. Neil Parker, an associate dean at UCLA's Geffen School of Medicine.

The HMO juggernaut didn't materialize. That's largely because of a backlash against precisely the type of gate-keeping that was supposed to reduce the use of physicians. Accusations that HMOs were denying care to boost their profits led to their decline.

Preferred provider organizations proliferated instead. They give patients more of a choice of physicians and make it easier to get care. And the demand for physician services has never been greater.

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June 4, 2006

Another idea that didn't pan out was that technology would reduce the use of physicians. Minimally invasive surgical techniques and other advances, however, actually have expanded demand for physicians by making it possible to perform operations on patients who are older and sicker than those who got surgery in the past, said Dr. David Etzioni, a surgical resident who studied future surgeon needs for the UCLA Center for Surgical Outcomes and Quality.

What's more, older people generally are healthier today than in the past, Etzioni said. "Operating on a 70-year-old now is much different than 30 years ago. So surgeons are more aggressive about patients they would do procedures on."

The AMA changed its position on the physician workforce a year ago, acknowledging that a shortage was indeed emerging. The consensus has shifted so quickly that experts who view the physician workforce as adequate — though poorly distributed, inefficient or wasteful — now are seen as contrarians.

Momentum for change is building. This month, the executive council of the Assn. of American Medical Colleges will consider calling for a 30% boost in enrollment, double the increase it called for last year.

The University of California built its last three medical schools — Davis, Irvine and San Diego — in the 1960s. Administrators are considering raising UC medical school enrollment by as much as 25% by expanding existing schools, building new ones or both. UC Riverside and UC Merced are eager to host new medical schools. A handful of states, including Florida and New Jersey, also are considering new schools.

Yet even if the schools quickly boosted enrollment by 30%, the ratio of physicians to patients would begin to decline by 2025, said Dr. Jordan Cohen, president of the Assn. of American Medical Colleges.

"The population is growing at a faster clip than any reasonable increase in the workforce could be accomplished," Cohen said. "That alerted us to the fact that we may need to be more aggressive in our recommendation."

AMA trustee Dr. Edward Langston has experienced the problem himself. His Lafayette, Ind., practice is getting a new family practitioner this month, but only after a difficult search that took three years.

"There is a shortage," said Langston, who, at 61, is thinking about retirement. "We need more physicians."
 
Very interesting Sazi! I wonder how this will ultimately effect our pay scale - will it become worse? better? What about the surgical specialties? they're losing people left and right becuase of lifestyle!
 
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Poety said:
Very interesting Sazi! I wonder how this will ultimately effect our pay scale - will it become worse? better? What about the surgical specialties? they're losing people left and right becuase of lifestyle!

One would think this would increase our salaries. Probably the same will happen to specialties across the board, since our generation is generally unwilling to work the insane hours that our predecessors did. While this is happening, the population is increasing, while the aged population increases faster than that.

FP and peds will probably continue to take a hit, while the specialties thrive.
 
Poety said:
Very interesting Sazi! I wonder how this will ultimately effect our pay scale - will it become worse? better? What about the surgical specialties? they're losing people left and right becuase of lifestyle!

A new psychiatry intake to see an MD in our system is 3-4 weeks right now.
Another major group in our region is having difficulty filling inpatient psych slots, despite offering >$200K. It looks like the "pots will be sweetened" (more $ or less work, or BOTH!) for recruitment and retention around here. :thumbup:
 
OldPsychDoc said:
A new psychiatry intake to see an MD in our system is 3-4 weeks right now.
Another major group in our region is having difficulty filling inpatient psych slots, despite offering >$200K. It looks like the "pots will be sweetened" (more $ or less work, or BOTH!) for recruitment and retention around here. :thumbup:


Whre do you live? I'm coming there after residency ;) whats good is that I still have time to let that pot sweeten, 4-5 years UGGH, this doesn't end does it? I'm goign to be OLD when I'm outta residency :scared:
 
is anyone worried that nurses and PAs will get more privileges and be on a more-or-less equal plane with MDs. i say lets not get our hopes up about any pots becoming too sweet. the cap on FMG coming into USA can be increased very quickly leading to more stability in the supply of physicians. there are thousands of people eager to come and do residency in USA from India, Pakistan etc.
i think we still need to work at securing out future as physicians, and not celebrate prematurely. does anyone have more info on future of psychiatry. i want to make at least $300,000/year and i don't mind work crazy hours.

however this was a great thread to read.

ps: i hope nobody comments on my desired salary, this thread is not for the purpose of discussing dedication to medicine and patient and less on money.
 
docpsych said:
is anyone worried that nurses and PAs will get more privileges and be on a more-or-less equal plane with MDs.

If not, then you should be:

COALITION FOR PATIENTS' RIGHTS (CPR) CALLS ON AMA TO CEASE DIVISIVE EFFORTS TO LIMIT PATIENTS' CHOICE OF PROVIDERS

24 health care organizations* unite to ensure patients' a full range of
health care provider options and the right to choose among them


Washington, DC , June 8, 2006 - In response to divisive efforts by the
American Medical Association (AMA) and other physician groups to limit the
ability of licensed health care professionals to provide care to millions of
patients, the newly formed Coalition for Patients' Rights
(CPR) today urged all health care professionals to work together to counter
the AMA's actions.

The CPR was formed to ensure that the growing needs of the American health
system can be met and that patients have access to quality health care
providers of their choice. The coalition represents more than 3 million
licensed professionals who provide a diverse array of safe, effective and
affordable health care services.

In a joint statement endorsed by the 24 health care groups* that comprise
the coalition, the CPR expressed concern about the negative impact on
patients if their ability to seek care from advanced practice nurses,
psychologists, nurse midwives, chiropractors, and many other licensed,
qualified health care providers is limited. The coalition is calling on the
AMA and other physician groups aligned with the AMA to cease their divisive
efforts to oppose the established practice rights of CPR members.
The coalition also seeks an end to legislation at the state level that
would reduce provider options for patients.

The CPR is especially concerned about efforts by the AMA and other physician
groups that have formed the "Scope of Practice Partnership" to study the
work and qualifications of "allied health professionals" in rural and
underserved areas.

"Limiting the ability of health care professionals to practice and provide
appropriate care will place an enormous burden on the health care system,"
remarked Barbara Blakeney, MS, RN, President of the American Nurses
Association, which is a member of the coalition. "As leaders of the health
community, this coalition seeks to maintain the broadest range of provider
choices for everyone," said Blakeney.

The coalition questions the objectives of the AMA and other physician
organizations when they seek to advise consumers, regulators, policymakers
and insurers on the ability of other health care professionals to offer the
services they are allowed by law to provide.

Health care providers are a critical source of care for patients throughout
the United States, especially those who live in rural areas and medically
underserved urban areas. Historically, people who live in rural areas have
relied on a strong array of practitioners to meet their health care needs.
Advanced practice registered nurses, social workers, and other professions
that require rigorous educational preparation and ongoing instruction and
certification are the backbone of not just the rural health care system, but
the entire health care structure in the United States.

"Organizations representing medical doctors (MDs) and doctors of osteopathy
(DOs) are not in the best position to conduct a balanced and fair assessment
of an issue that directly affects their reimbursement,"
said Mitchell H. Tobin, JD, Senior Director of Professional Practice Affairs
for the American Association of Nurse Anesthetists, also a member of the
coalition.

The coalition asserts that the AMA's actions affect the entire health care
community and all current and potential patients.

"Health care professionals other than MDs and DOs have been key to assuring
access to care for millions of patients in rural and underserved areas.
Given the difficulty that so many people have in getting needed care, now is
the time for all health care professions to work together, not to work
against each other to meet the need," said Dr. Russ Newman, Executive
Director of the American Psychological
Association Practice Organization.

The Coalition for Patients' Rights is continuing to expand and invites other
health care organizations to join. For more information about the Coalition
for Patients' Rights, please visit www.patientsrightsnow.org
<http://www.patientsrightsnow.org/> .

(* As of June 6, 2006 - 24 health organizations signed onto CPR.)
 
docpsych said:
is anyone worried that nurses and PAs will get more privileges and be on a more-or-less equal plane with MDs. i say lets not get our hopes up about any pots becoming too sweet. the cap on FMG coming into USA can be increased very quickly leading to more stability in the supply of physicians. there are thousands of people eager to come and do residency in USA from India, Pakistan etc.
i think we still need to work at securing out future as physicians, and not celebrate prematurely. does anyone have more info on future of psychiatry. i want to make at least $300,000/year and i don't mind work crazy hours.

however this was a great thread to read.

ps: i hope nobody comments on my desired salary, this thread is not for the purpose of discussing dedication to medicine and patient and less on money.


Agree 100%

You guys dont understand.

In medicine, doctors salaries have veyr little to do with pure supply/demand issues because insurance companies reimburse the amount dictated by Medicare/Medicaid.

Medicare does NOT change reimbursement to reflect the supply of docs. If they did, then psych would be one of hte highest paid group of docs.

So a psych shortage will do NOTHING to increase psych salaries. Healthcare is not a free market.

What WILL happen, as public health pointed out, is that if a shortage of docs continues, the lawmakers will allow others (psychologists, NPs, hell even social workers) to invade psych turf.

I say that psych needs to start taking more FMGs. I'd rather compete against FMGs who have medical doctorates as opposed to the freaking nurses.
 
MacGyver said:
What WILL happen, as public health pointed out, is that if a shortage of docs continues, the lawmakers will allow others (psychologists, NPs, hell even social workers) to invade psych turf.

Actually, this HAS happened. Psychiatric NPs, though in small number, now prescribe psychotropics in virtually every US state, independently in some. Psychologists in NM and LA who completed psychopharmacology training are prescribing, with legislative efforts ongoing in dozens of other states. The AMA's elitist tactics will not fly (see above article on Coalition for Patients' Rights).
 
There is a supply/demand phenomena in private practice and fee-for-service, which many psychiatrists engage in. This is why private child psychiatrists are so well compensated if they so choose.

The same also goes for dermatology. While routine visits are not reimbursed heavily by Medicare, private consultation fees escalate the fees due to lack of these specialists. Medicare reimbursement is only one part of the whole.

As such, a dermatologist in an academic hospital may make much less than in private.

I do agree with you that these 'tactics' to scare lawmakers into the horrific mental health crisis are just that...tactics to support their financial interests. Healthcare in this respect is degrading.
 
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