Interpretation of MSAR stats?

[ShakaChaka]

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I was wondering how to start deciphering msar.
I want to get 30 md schools.

1. Do I first look at my mcat, second gpa, 3rd instate bias, 4th then oos competition, 5thdemographics?

For example,

Temple University School of Medicine-
avg mcat 32 lowest mcat29
Cgpa 3.7 sgpa3.7
instate matriculated 156 of 1271: out of state 76 of 9712
matriculated demographics: Asians50White156Hispanic12

2. If I were to compare Temple with University of Minnesota which should I choose based on the stats?
Avg mcat 32 lowest mcat 27
Cgpa3.8 Sgpa3.8
Instate 192 of 832 and Out of state 37 of 3137
Hispanics 15 Asians 20 Blacks 17 and Whites 169

3. What is a low number range for instate bias? 15 oos matriculated out of 4000 applicants, when 50 instate matriculated for 800 applicants?

4. Lastly, what number range is a oos competition hard.
percent would make oos competition hard. For example, 5 oos matriculated out of 1000?

 

[Banco]

Start with MCAT first, you want to be close to the median (+/- 2 pts for MCAT); then look at GPA and see if you're in the range, again being closer to the median is better.

Then look at how many oos people get interviews/matriculate. As a general rule of thumb if >20% are matriculating from OOS, then it is worth applying to as an OOS applicant. Generally private schools are more receptive to OOS people than public schools, but this could vary.

Don't worry about demographics.

 

[ShakaChaka]

Thank you! This is incredibly helpful.

Quick question, how would I calculate >20% oos matriculating. Would I add up all the is and oos applicants... Hmm.

 

[Banco]

Thank you! This is incredibly helpful.

Quick question, how would I calculate >20% oos matriculating. Would I add up all the is and oos applicants... Hmm.

The OOS vs. IS thing is really for public schools, as privates usually don't have too much bias.

I generally start by looking at the total class size and how many are OOS vs. IS. If the class size is 100, and 20 are OOS, then that is a decent amount (20%). 20% is just my general rule of thumb though, you can go based off whatever you'd like.

It can also get a bit more interesting to see how many OOS apply, interview, and then matriculate. These trends are hard to generalize, but basically the higher the proportion the better it is.

 

[jsquared91]

Thank you! This is incredibly helpful.

Quick question, how would I calculate >20% oos matriculating. Would I add up all the is and oos applicants... Hmm.

https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/act/gradstudy/health/guide/part2/appendix
a bit dated, but still helpful.

 

[Goro]

Watch out for the quantitative parts of MCAT!

Quick question, how would I calculate >20% oos matriculating. Would I add up all the is and oos applicants...

 

[Goro]

This is what I look at as well. For a school like FIU or FAU, the IS/OOS stats can be misleading if you only klook at matriculants. For these two schools, VERY FEW OOSer's get IIs, but if they do, they have a good chance of being accepted. Thus, I can' recommend these two schools for someone OOS, unless they lived in FL for a decent chunk of time , or went to college there. Having you sister live in Fl does not consititue a tie.

I generally start by looking at the total class size and how many are OOS vs. IS. If the class size is 100, and 20 are OOS, then that is a decent amount (20%). 20% is just my general rule of thumb though, you can go based off whatever you'd like.

It can also get a bit more interesting to see how many OOS apply, interview, and then matriculate. These trends are hard to generalize, but basically the higher the proportion the better it is.[/QUOTE]

 

[ShakaChaka]

Thank you everyone for all your insight!

 

[gyngyn]

Don't worry about demographics.

Except for mission-based schools.

 

[Banco]

Except for mission-based schools.

True.