During one of my interviews I was told that a school was better off spending their money on educating men because women just want to have babies and then they will quit. I didn't really know how to take this. I don't plan on quiting and I don't even know if I want children. He was very adamnet about how women were a waste of the educational systems time. Then he preceded to tell me that he doesn't work a 40 hour week and takes off to play golf all the time. Doesn't seem like he was worth the schools money to edicate either. I have never really delt with sex discrimination so I guess I was just really shocked. I am hoping he was playing devil's advocate or else he really hated me because he said some other stuff that was just uncalled for. Luckily my other interviews have been far better.
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The person who interviewed you told you this???
Or was this just a male student that was being interviewed?
Geez, what a horrible comment to make!
Or was this just a male student that was being interviewed?
Geez, what a horrible comment to make!
Yipes, if this guy is also an instructor (most dental school adcom interviewers are), it makes me wonder how he runs his class.
There must be a lot of bias/unfair grading/sex harrassment complaints from female students against this guy if that's the case..
There must be a lot of bias/unfair grading/sex harrassment complaints from female students against this guy if that's the case..
One of the reasons I really want dentistry as a career is because it will allow me the flexibility to balance a family and career. I don't think there is anything wrong with women dentists having babies. It's not like they are quitting the profession. I think that is an absurd point of view, and chauvanistic dentists are the ones that should be taken out of circulation.
This kind of comments are not only unprofessional but illegal. You should call up and insist on reporting this individual to the Admissions Director... such comments should not be tolerated. Having conducted job interviews myself, I can assure you that no manager (or director) is going to allow such nonsense. By the way, i was at an investment banking interview and one of the bankers told me that they only hire women with good 'assets'. what the f? I hope that such negative bs does not deter you from being part of the profession. best of luck!
i agree with Crimson, what that interviewer did was illegal and unprofessional. you should definately report him. i can't even understand where he got that idea that most women quit dentistry to have children. i always hear that women like dentistry because they can balance having children with their career. i know that's how i feel.
that guy was a male chauvenist pig. men call them JERKS. most women call them ASSHOLES.
that guy was a male chauvenist pig. men call them JERKS. most women call them ASSHOLES.
oh, i forgot to add.......
some people who interview prospective students for the medical profession sometimes purposely try to push the students' buttons to see how the student reacts under pressure and to see how they handle a difficult situation.
at what school had this interview taken place? was it a very competitive school?
dragonj
some people who interview prospective students for the medical profession sometimes purposely try to push the students' buttons to see how the student reacts under pressure and to see how they handle a difficult situation.
at what school had this interview taken place? was it a very competitive school?
dragonj
If they can be like how you described, I wonder if they can be hardcore racists...
Man that would not be cool...
By the way, which school was this?
Man that would not be cool...
By the way, which school was this?
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I think that he was just trying to push my buttons. I did tell the dean of admissions about it though. One of my other friends had an interview with him and he told her that she would probably end up divorced and so she should have a lot of young men on her staff. Obviously this comment is uncalled for. He also shot down my school which is a really good school. I'm not going to say which school it is because I really like the school other than for the prof that interviewed me so I don't want to bias anyone's judgement.
wow, that guy really was weird cause everyone knows GTech is a top school. my mom knew about GTech when she still lived in Thailand and she was so excited that i was going there. and thailand is on the other side of the Earth!
the only reason i asked which school it was was because i was wondering if it was a comptetitive school. so was it?
i;m nervous about applying to the big schools like harvard, columbia,etc for this exact reason. i don't think i'd do well at all if i get an interview like that. i'm too opinionated and too outspoken. i'll probably get so appalled by rude comments that i'd end up saying something too "strong".....(rude, unlady-like, defensive)
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the only reason i asked which school it was was because i was wondering if it was a comptetitive school. so was it?
i;m nervous about applying to the big schools like harvard, columbia,etc for this exact reason. i don't think i'd do well at all if i get an interview like that. i'm too opinionated and too outspoken. i'll probably get so appalled by rude comments that i'd end up saying something too "strong".....(rude, unlady-like, defensive)
j
I agree that the comments which were made were uncalled for, however I don't think reporting the interviewer is the way to go. From a legal standpoint, over 90% of interviews (for grad schools, jobs, etc.) have something illegal which happens in them.
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Sorry about the hellish interview....I agree that what your interviewer did was uncalled for. But know that interviewers like him are not in the norm. My first interview is at Temple on October 3. From what I hear, it's pretty laid back. I'm glad that I am starting there to work out any nervousness and anxiety I might have. Good luck with the rest of your interviews!
Arby
Sorry about the hellish interview....I agree that what your interviewer did was uncalled for. But know that interviewers like him are not in the norm. My first interview is at Temple on October 3. From what I hear, it's pretty laid back. I'm glad that I am starting there to work out any nervousness and anxiety I might have. Good luck with the rest of your interviews!
Arby
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Arby,
Temple was a lot of fun. Good luck and have fun. I'm not letting one bad interview get to me. I still really like the school that it happened at. Luckily there were two interviews and the other one was extremely good.
Temple was a lot of fun. Good luck and have fun. I'm not letting one bad interview get to me. I still really like the school that it happened at. Luckily there were two interviews and the other one was extremely good.
GTchick.....good for you! That's a great outlook to have. Temple will be alot of fun. I've toured their facilities and have spoken to Mark. What a great guy! He makes you feel that you are a candidate worthy of attending Temple (or any other dental school for that matter). It should be a great experience. I'll keep everyone posted!
Arby
Arby
I haven't heard of a dental school that doesn't have around a 50-50 ratio of male and female in its student body. I wouldn't suspect sex discrimination too much in the admissions process.
As for your friend who received the quoted comment, it is my opinion that the interviewer was subconciously biased within her favor in order to have made such a remark. He wouldn't have said that to anyone.
It was her appearance that provoked such a response and clearly the male interviewer would prefer her over the dental applicants with similiar qualifications.
Those invited for interviews are all respectable candidates, and it is human nature for interviewers to choose who they like at this stage. Not surprisingly, factors such as appearance, height, and sense of humor can tip an interviewer's favor for a particular candidate.
Someone from my Kaplan class just emailed me about her interview at BU. I have my own opinions....what do you think. Here was her experience.
It was raining in the morning, so I started out the day wet--not good. I got to the interview and they were interviewing 7 of us. We had a tour of the facilities and I thought that they were great--state-of-the-art and all. Then we had a lecture and then ate lunch while taking turns interviewing. My interview was last. Myself and this girl from South Carolina were interviewed by this one guy while the other 5 people were interviewed by this woman. After the people interviewed with the woman, they all said "she was so nice, I just wanted to give her a big hug"--I'm not kidding, they all said that. When the south Carolina girl came back, I could tell that she was upset--but then it was my turn. The guy was so mean--he was such a jerk. Instead of letting us (me and the SC girl) sit in a comfortable chair, he made us sit on a bar stool with no back support so that we were uncomfortable from the-get-go. Then he asked me if I would retake the DATs and I said "absolutely not", I just took them on Oct 2nd--and then he said, "Oh, I didn't know that, I don't have your new scores". Then he showed me a pie chart--yes that's right, a pie chart showing that most of the applicants had scores of 19/19 and not 17/17. Then he told me that my grades did not count at all because the last time I took a graded course was 4 years ago--so he is not sure how I would perform academically. Then he alluded to the fact that he thought I was too old (he didn't say it in those words, but I knew what he was getting at) and he showed me a pie chart showing that most of the applicants were about 24-26yrs. old and I'm a bit older than that. Then he showed me another pie chart stating that they mostly accept out-of-state applicants. Then he said that he thought that I was a HUGE RISK because I was a non-traditional student. He said that it would be a ton of work and that he would need a lot of luck trying to convince the committee to accept me. He didn't care about my research--unless I had publications which I don't and he didn't care about my jewelry making or anything. He was so mean, I can't even begin to tell you the tone he said all of this in--he made me feel terrible, he made me feel like the biggest loser on the planet. He made it seem like no school would ever even consider me 'because I was such a huge risk--it was all I could do not to burst into tears--he was so mean and he kept saying that my grades didn't count for anything. He almost made the other girl cry too. This is one of the things he said to her "what would you say to me if I told you that I was not at all impressed with your application?" He asked her to retake the DAT too. I was getting so upset with him, I finally stood up (it was uncomfortable on that barstool) and said "Look, I'm great, and I will be a great asset to this school, what else do you want me to say?" Then he shook my hand and said "I like that"
It was raining in the morning, so I started out the day wet--not good. I got to the interview and they were interviewing 7 of us. We had a tour of the facilities and I thought that they were great--state-of-the-art and all. Then we had a lecture and then ate lunch while taking turns interviewing. My interview was last. Myself and this girl from South Carolina were interviewed by this one guy while the other 5 people were interviewed by this woman. After the people interviewed with the woman, they all said "she was so nice, I just wanted to give her a big hug"--I'm not kidding, they all said that. When the south Carolina girl came back, I could tell that she was upset--but then it was my turn. The guy was so mean--he was such a jerk. Instead of letting us (me and the SC girl) sit in a comfortable chair, he made us sit on a bar stool with no back support so that we were uncomfortable from the-get-go. Then he asked me if I would retake the DATs and I said "absolutely not", I just took them on Oct 2nd--and then he said, "Oh, I didn't know that, I don't have your new scores". Then he showed me a pie chart--yes that's right, a pie chart showing that most of the applicants had scores of 19/19 and not 17/17. Then he told me that my grades did not count at all because the last time I took a graded course was 4 years ago--so he is not sure how I would perform academically. Then he alluded to the fact that he thought I was too old (he didn't say it in those words, but I knew what he was getting at) and he showed me a pie chart showing that most of the applicants were about 24-26yrs. old and I'm a bit older than that. Then he showed me another pie chart stating that they mostly accept out-of-state applicants. Then he said that he thought that I was a HUGE RISK because I was a non-traditional student. He said that it would be a ton of work and that he would need a lot of luck trying to convince the committee to accept me. He didn't care about my research--unless I had publications which I don't and he didn't care about my jewelry making or anything. He was so mean, I can't even begin to tell you the tone he said all of this in--he made me feel terrible, he made me feel like the biggest loser on the planet. He made it seem like no school would ever even consider me 'because I was such a huge risk--it was all I could do not to burst into tears--he was so mean and he kept saying that my grades didn't count for anything. He almost made the other girl cry too. This is one of the things he said to her "what would you say to me if I told you that I was not at all impressed with your application?" He asked her to retake the DAT too. I was getting so upset with him, I finally stood up (it was uncomfortable on that barstool) and said "Look, I'm great, and I will be a great asset to this school, what else do you want me to say?" Then he shook my hand and said "I like that"
hahha... pie charts...
ur friend did great! the interviewer was just trying to see if she could handle situations like that! she's in!
~Qoo
ur friend did great! the interviewer was just trying to see if she could handle situations like that! she's in!
~Qoo
Wow, I was expecting her to hit the interviewer or something. It was a happy ending, indeed. I'm happy I didn't have to get tested like that.
DesiDentist
DesiDentist
I will not be suprised if the 2 applicants get the bad interviewer actually get accepted but not the other 5 applicants.