Intubation robot?

[lushmd]

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While not autonomous, it seems that the folks who developed McSleepy are now working on an intubation robot. Thoughts?

 

[badasshairday]

Looks cool, and its cool that he was able to make it. But it seems pointless, and just another hi-tech gadget that will drive up the cost of health care.

 

[sevoflurane]

While not autonomous, it seems that the folks who developed McSleepy are now working on an intubation robot. Thoughts?

😆😆

As my old silverback attending would say:
Just put the f****n tube in.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

😆😆

As my old silverback attending would say:
Just put the f****n tube in.

👍

These hospitals are worried about cost, I doubt this robot will ever see much use...

 

[jwk]

What's cool about it? Someone controls it with a joystick, and I see the ETT in the guy's hand. Pointless. But then again except for radical prostates and perhaps minimally invasive hearts, I think the DaVinci is pointless as well.

 

[Intubate]

That is really lame. Its just a Pentax airway scope and a fancy one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Toysmith-6135-Galaxy-Grabber-Robot/dp/B000J0XWEM

 

[lushmd]

I agree that at this point its very gimmicky, sort of like the Da Vinci robot as jwk pointed out. Having said that, given recent data re the efficacy of video laryngoscopes and advances in computer vision, its only a matter of time before such systems become autonomous.

 

[BeddingfieldMD]

That is really lame. Its just a Pentax airway scope and a fancy one of these:

http://www.amazon.com/Toysmith-6135-Galaxy-Grabber-Robot/dp/B000J0XWEM

Hey, don't they actually use the Galaxy Grabber Robot Claw in some laparoscopic cases these days?

 

[Yo GabbaPentin]

If it is as efficient as the Davinci is for the obstetricians, then I suspect that this robot will result in intubations taking 30-60 mins.

 

[fabfive5]

If it is as efficient as the Davinci is for the obstetricians, then I suspect that this robot will result in intubations taking 30-60 mins.

I bet when they get REALLY good at the robotic controls the intubations will take 10-15 minutes. Lightening fast!!

 

[KaoticMessiah]

I bet when they get REALLY good at the robotic controls the intubations will take 10-15 minutes. Lightening fast!!

They'll also have four equipment reps from the company present at all intubations just in case the anesthesiologist needs any assistance with anything.

 

[periopdoc]

There is a "silverback" where I did my residency who truly believes that within my lifetime anesthesiologists will be mostly practicing remotely from the OR with a bank of screens monitoring a half-a-dozen or so patients.

The patients will be placed on the OR tables and the robots will be positioned by a tech. Intubation will be done remotely using a robot like this and medications will be administered remotely by a non-automatic "McSleepy" type robot.

It sounds a little out there to me, but then again some of his predictions about anesthesia, especially the economics of it, have come to pass.

I guess we will see.

- pod

 

[fabfive5]

There is a "silverback" where I did my residency who truly believes that within my lifetime anesthesiologists will be mostly practicing remotely from the OR with a bank of screens monitoring a half-a-dozen or so patients.

The patients will be placed on the OR tables and the robots will be positioned by a tech. Intubation will be done remotely using a robot like this and medications will be administered remotely by a non-automatic "McSleepy" type robot.

It sounds a little out there to me, but then again some of his predictions about anesthesia, especially the economics of it, have come to pass.

I guess we will see.

- pod

NOTHING....I mean NOTHING takes the place of human intuition, skills, intelligence, and feel (the feel of intubation). 😀

 

[periopdoc]

I tend to agree with you and that is pretty much what my response to him was. Who steps in when the robot fails?

- pod

 

[IN2B8R]

I tend to agree with you and that is pretty much what my response to him was. Who steps in when the robot fails?

- pod

Oh, comon, do you really need to ask that? We'll be instantly beamed down, just like on Star Trek....😉

 

[Yo GabbaPentin]

There is a "silverback" where I did my residency who truly believes that within my lifetime anesthesiologists will be mostly practicing remotely from the OR with a bank of screens monitoring a half-a-dozen or so patients.

The patients will be placed on the OR tables and the robots will be positioned by a tech. Intubation will be done remotely using a robot like this and medications will be administered remotely by a non-automatic "McSleepy" type robot.

It sounds a little out there to me, but then again some of his predictions about anesthesia, especially the economics of it, have come to pass.

I guess we will see.

- pod

A serious possibility if you change things slightly. Substitute the robots with CRNAs or AAs. The CRNAs/AAs making less than they are currently making of course. 1-2 anesthesiologists watching 8+ rooms a piece remotely from their bank of screens. I guess anything is possible.

 

[fakin' the funk]

Looks cool, and its cool that he was able to make it. But it seems pointless, and just another hi-tech gadget that will drive up the cost of health care.

This.

Our healthcare cost trajectory is more likely to have us using halothane and reusable equipment than McSleepy/TCI, intubation robots, and TEE.

 

[cfdavid]

A cool development. I'll never say never, but really, you can automate just about anything. Often it comes down to cost effectiveness, and practicality.