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Just curious. Please, no flame war. If you don't know the answer, don't insert your opinion.
You're aware that's what affirmative action is, right?No...although being a URM might help you to stand out. Most programs desire diversity in their class
Yes, it is used wherever certain minorities are underrepresented, which is definitely the case in medicine.
So why does 90% of SDN have their panties in a bundle over "unqualified URMs getting into med school" ? If these terrible people are being 'let' in, then in theory they would just wind up in the least competitive specialties with unfilled residency spots anyway. Serving the needy and doing other filthy things.
It depends on the residency director whos chosing people. Usually not, though some may want a more "diverse" group.
You're aware that's what affirmative action is, right?
The more important question is "is there racism in the residency selection process" and the answer is yes, big time. There are lots of programs who have not seen a minority on staff for the past 20 years. I wonder why us white folks keep assuming diversty translates to less oportunities for us. If a minority takes your spot, remember another white guy could have easily done the same.
Some people like to pretend that racism doesn't exist just because Obama is PE, but I guess they forget that there are no AAs in the Senate so we haven't come *that* far.
And some people also like to pretend that just because there are no black people in X position The Man is out to get them and keeping them down.
Of course the reality is somewhere between these extremes. We cannot just say "AA" and "URM" and place these labels on people. That just puts them in a box and everything we see from that point on is the box talking/walking/etc, not the actual person.
The truth is, there is a mix. There are some URMs who are well-qualified and even without AA would have gotten into X medical school. In contrast, there are some URMs who are not qualified and would not get into those schools without AA.
It follows that there are non-URMs that would get into X medical school under an AA system (like in the status quo). In addition, there are also non-URMs that would NOT get into X medical school even with out AA.
So basically, just work hard, do your best, and stop attributing your failures to external forces that are beyond your control anyways.
What a useless post concerning med school when the topic is residency!
Why yes, it is indeed the pre-allo forum! A place where immature snots who can't admit they're wrong is not a rarity!
My favorite!! <3
Wow you have a bad attitude. Just replace med school with residency. Sorry you couldn't figure it out for yourself. It is the pre-allo forum after all.
The goal of most hospitals is to have certain proportions.
No...although being a URM might help you to stand out. Most programs desire diversity in their class
You're aware that's what affirmative action is, right?
And some people also like to pretend that just because there are no black people in X position The Man is out to get them and keeping them down.
Of course the reality is somewhere between these extremes. We cannot just say "AA" and "URM" and place these labels on people. That just puts them in a box and everything we see from that point on is the box talking/walking/etc, not the actual person.
The truth is, there is a mix. There are some URMs who are well-qualified and even without AA would have gotten into X medical school. In contrast, there are some URMs who are not qualified and would not get into those schools without AA.
It follows that there are non-URMs that would get into X medical school under an AA system (like in the status quo). In addition, there are also non-URMs that would NOT get into X medical school even with out AA.
So basically, just work hard, do your best, and stop attributing your failures to external forces that are beyond your control anyways.
8 years...
Are you from the future?
It is an 8 year old thread. And nothing has changed.
2008 was 6 years ago. still wondering though, if AA stops with med school admissions.