Is dentist saturation in NYC really that bad?

[Halfdolphy]

Hi all,

I am considering dentistry (or medicine). But I strongly prefer to stay in NYC because all my ties (family, friends) are here. I heard from an older friend that NYC/ Long Island are both already saturated with dentists and new dentists (fresh out of school/residency) will have trouble finding a job in NYC. And there are a lot of dental offices. (In my neighborhood, there is almost at least one every couple blocks or so). So that would be very hard to establish a new practice. I am sorry if I come off as if I am overly concerned about finance but 4 years of dental school tuition is A LOT to me. I am afraid that I will not get a job in the area that I want to practice with all that debt.

So my questions are:

1. How hard is it to find a job fresh out of school/residency as a dentist in NYC?
2. Since a lot of people want to practice in NYC, how low will a new dentist's salary be? What about after a couple years? (In NYC)
3. How hard is it to establish your own practice in NYC after a couple years of being an associate?
4. Is it not realistic to want to only stay in NYC (as a dentist)?

Thank you for your time.

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[tooth knockn]

1- you can find a job no problem, but be ready to travel to other Burroughs

2- salary could be fixed or based on work performed,
Low fix- $500 a day
Low percentage-30%

3-to establish a practice in NYC, is costly, but doable, just don't get a lawsuit , an extraction could cost $500 per tooth minimum, in NYC, less in outer boroughs.
4- if you like NYC yes, if you are a native, then this NYC thing is routine.....


Reference:
20 years in the field

 

[Blake1e]

Hi all,

I am considering dentistry (or medicine). But I strongly prefer to stay in NYC because all my ties (family, friends) are here. I heard from an older friend that NYC/ Long Island are both already saturated with dentists and new dentists (fresh out of school/residency) will have trouble finding a job in NYC. And there are a lot of dental offices. (In my neighborhood, there is almost at least one every couple blocks or so). So that would be very hard to establish a new practice. I am sorry if I come off as if I am overly concerned about finance but 4 years of dental school tuition is A LOT to me. I am afraid that I will not get a job in the area that I want to practice with all that debt.

So my questions are:

1. How hard is it to find a job fresh out of school/residency as a dentist in NYC?
2. Since a lot of people want to practice in NYC, how low will a new dentist's salary be? What about after a couple years? (In NYC)
3. How hard is it to establish your own practice in NYC after a couple years of being an associate?
4. Is it not realistic to want to only stay in NYC (as a dentist)?

Thank you for your time.

I wouldnt know, but the best way to know is to get to know dentists in the area.

 

[OSUkid]

1- you can find a job no problem, but be ready to travel to other Burroughs

2- salary could be fixed or based on work performed,
Low fix- $500 a day
Low percentage-30%

3-to establish a practice in NYC, is costly, but doable, just don't get a lawsuit , an extraction could cost $500 per tooth minimum, in NYC, less in outer boroughs.
4- if you like NYC yes, if you are a native, then this NYC thing is routine.....


Reference:
20 years in the field

LoL 20 years.

 

[tooth knockn]

LoL 20 years.

That's not really funny....

 

[tooth knockn]

That is my life

 

[Pearl E. White]

Congrats on 20 years! 👍

 

[I want to go to there]

What profession isn't "saturated" in NYC?

 

[OSUkid]

That is my life

Yea your a teddy bear

 

[Halfdolphy]

What profession isn't "saturated" in NYC?

PA or MD?

haven't heard of unemployment in those fields. but i may be ignorant.
but i guess an MD will have a easier time to find a job than a dentist in NYC right?


im not trying to start a fight with this doctor vs dentist thing.

im genuinely interested in knowing which profession has an easier time securing a job. anyone has inputs on this?

 

[toothdriller2k17]

the issue really is attaining a full-time associate position at an office in nyc; the second issue is getting paid a competitive salary.

starting off at 80-90k+bonuses isn't low balling a salary expectation in a major city like NYC. the difference with new york is pairing that number with the high cost of living. that is what makes it a grueling job market. the cons certainly outweigh the pros when it comes to practicing in the city.

 

[peglaterals]

PA or MD?

haven't heard of unemployment in those fields. but i may be ignorant.
but i guess an MD will have a easier time to find a job than a dentist in NYC right?


im not trying to start a fight with this doctor vs dentist thing.

im genuinely interested in knowing which profession has an easier time securing a job. anyone has inputs on this?

You know, you should decide MD vs DMD based on which one you love more. If you love it, you'll do a better job at it. and if you do good work you'll find a job in NYC.
In my opinion, I'd rather work a job slightly outside of NYC for a happier life than to force myself to work a job I'm meh about just bc its in NYC. Just my two cents!

 

[Pearl E. White]

You know, you should decide MD vs DMD based on which one you love more. If you love it, you'll do a better job at it. and if you do good work you'll find a job in NYC.
In my opinion, I'd rather work a job slightly outside of NYC for a happier life than to force myself to work a job I'm meh about just bc its in NYC. Just my two cents!

Hey there! This thread is 3 years old. Careful reviving conversations that should remain in the past. 🙂

 

[tooth knockn]

Hey there! This thread is 3 years old. Careful reviving conversations that should remain in the past. 🙂

This conversation will never end For NYC !

 

[BluntForceTrauma]

Hey there! This thread is 3 years old. Careful reviving conversations that should remain in the past. 🙂

Part of me wants to create an account and then just go around reviving old threads for fun.


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[Pearl E. White]

Part of me wants to create an account and then just go around reviving old threads for fun.


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I would give up. Lol normally I dont mind, but when they're giving advice to the OP about a decision made years ago... not sure if it actually helps though.

 

[tooth knockn]

2015 is not that far back .. . Pre Trump and Pre-Amazon long island city