thats some scary stuff right there, since I just finished doing the kaplan book and destroyer, they are not the most difficult problems in the world but I wouldn't say they are that easy either, I guess the destroyer had a lot more trig problems than I expected, and since its the only subject I had not reviewed I couldn't do any of the problems and struggle with it on cdp math, either way I thought that with the blue book, destroyer and a kaplan gre math book I had good practice, and I have improved my math skills with no calculator, which is a big deal for me but cdp math has been killing me time wise, and you say the real thing is more difficult? wow, thats scary, I guess it has less to do with your math skills and more to do with your guessing skills.