Is it better to be an Average or Below Average MD student or an Above Average DO?

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Interesting thought. How do you think this would play into matching into residencies and future opportunities in specialties etcetera?

 

[OSUdoc08]

Interesting thought. How do you think this would play into matching into residencies and future opportunities in specialties etcetera?

It depends on the specialty.

In most cases, it would be better to be an above average DO, but there are some residencies that prescribe to the "Confederacy" philosophy of discriminating against minorities (in this case a DO.) I'm not sure why you would want to go to such a residency anyway.

 

[puppy12]

It depends on the specialty.

In most cases, it would be better to be an above average DO, but there are some residencies that prescribe to the "Confederacy" philosophy of discriminating against minorities (in this case a DO.) I'm not sure why you would want to go to such a residency anyway.

 

[Rafa]

LOL @ OSUdoc08's post, 🙂 but he's got a point. As a DO, you might have to jump through hoops to convince certain residencies to let you in, while as an MD, you'll already be 'normal' in their eyes. But not all residencies are like that. It definitely depends on what kind of doctor you'd like to be. Personally, I'd go with an MD, but that's because all of the schools I'm planning on applying to dole out that degree.

 

[SoCuteMD]

Ok, I'm an allopathic student, but I'd just like to point out that even though DO schools ON THE WHOLE (yes, I know there are some DO schools that are just as competitive as allopathic schools wrt admissions) are slightly less competitive to gain entry to, that does not mean your classmates are going to be any less motivated, driven, and intelligent. Thus, just because you think you would be in the bottom of the class at an MD school DOES NOT MEAN that you would have better luck with grades and such at a DO school. DO students work hard and from what I hear, have more material to master in the same amount of time that MD students do (especially with OMM and an increased focus on anatomy for the COMLEX).

 

[45408]

board scores are huge

 

[BaylorGuy]

board scores are huge

Seriously...just be an average student with good/great board scores and you can most probably land a good specialty if you want it.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

Let's flip that question and ask whether top 10% at Duke is the same as top 10% at any osteopathic school. For that matter, is top 10% at any MD school the same as the equivalent in osteopathic? All but, say, 3-4 MD schools are more competitive than every osteopathic school, numbers-wise. People with low/mid 20's on the MCAT are common in osteopathic schools, but those individuals are rare in MD schools. All this really means is that MD students, on the whole, are better standardized test takers. This isn't to say that med students everywhere don't work hard, but can show how irrelevant class rank can be when comparing DO with MD. To be mediocre in a homogeneous class of extremely talented individuals is a virtue. Hence, the real equalizer is standardized tests -- board scores -- which can make all the difference, as other people pointed out. Of course all things being equal, there is still latent discrimination against DO, most especially in competitive residencies. Is this right? That's another story. Is it on the decline? One would hope so, but it will likely exist for decades.

 

[45408]

Let's flip that question and ask whether top 10% at Duke is the same as top 10% at any osteopathic school.

Of course not. The top 10% at Duke is better (on average) than the top 10% at <insert any state> School of Medicine, sans a few Cali schools.

 

[anon-y-mouse]

Of course not. The top 10% at Duke is better (on average) than the top 10% at <insert any state> School of Medicine, sans a few Cali schools.

Well sure, I definitely agree, now extend my analogy 🙂

 

[Law2Doc]

Of course not. The top 10% at Duke is better (on average) than the top 10% at <insert any state> School of Medicine, sans a few Cali schools.

What's the difference, though -- 90% of the people who are good enough to get into Duke aren't good enough to be in the top 10%. You are talking about unatainable results for even the well above-average allo premed. Sorry to break this to everybody, but it's a pretty safe bet that you will not be top 10% at whatever med school you go to. (Obviously I have a 90% chance of being right on this).

 

[anon-y-mouse]

Sorry to break this to everybody, but it's a pretty safe bet that you will not be top 10% at whatever med school you go to. (Obviously I have a 90% chance of being right on this).

Only if all students are exactly equal / of exactly the same intelligence and potential to make it to the top (which indeed may be the case at Duke, etc.). Of course, I have a 100% chance of having the best vision if I were in a room with blind people.

 

[DrLalich]

Of course not. The top 10% at Duke is better (on average) than the top 10% at <insert any state> School of Medicine, sans a few Cali schools.

RIDDLE!!!

What do you call a medical student that graduates absolute dead-last in their medical class (at any medical school, M.D. or D.O.)?

 

[Law2Doc]

RIDDLE!!!

What do you call a medical student that graduates absolute dead-last in their medical class (at any medical school, M.D. or D.O.)?

slacker.
(you were probably going for doctor, though).

 

[drmota]

in answer to the OPs question, in terms of getting into residency, you have a leg up if you're an MD. no doubt about it. don't flame me for this. its the truth almost everywhere.
-mota

 

[snobored18]

Obviously its always better to be at the top of wherever you end up...now I favor allo because for the life of me I can't figure out the difference between MD and DO besides that MD applicants are better scholars by traditional measurements (no one get pissed this is the truth the average MCATs and GPA are much higher...but no one can say this equates to someone being a better physician). Thus I sort of don't understand if OMM isn't really used why we don't just have one degree so there aren't these arguments (but of course there still would be because even allos will argue about how much better one school is than another instead of accepting they are all "good" and have their strengths and weaknesses and that a great school for one person is a lousy one for another etc. etc.). Anyways...I think the real question to OP is getting at is that could a student at the lower end of a MD school be at the top of a DO school, and thus which would be the better choice. My answer is you need to go to the school that is the BEST fit for YOU...only then will you be able to reach you maximum potential and that will give you tools to go forward. So don't judge the degree judge the school and how well its strengths and weaknesses compliment you...thats the best way to go.

 

[ND2005]

RIDDLE!!!

What do you call a medical student that graduates absolute dead-last in their medical class (at any medical school, M.D. or D.O.)?

I call them...


Dr. Ricketson

 

[Law2Doc]

Anyways...I think the real question to OP is getting at is that could a student at the lower end of a MD school be at the top of a DO school, and thus which would be the better choice.

If this is the real question, it would be likely hard to guage. Certainly in allo med schools, those withe the highest GPAs and MCATs upon admission do not necessarilly end up the shining stars of their class - everybody has to make adjustments, and some of the smartest college students are the slowest to cast aside the things that worked for them in the past but no longer are time effective techniques. (Some may also have the hardest time shrugging off a bad grade, leading to a tailspin situation). Thus I wouldn't assume you could be in one part of the class in one school and at the other extreme in another. And it's probably moot anyhow, because the boards matter a lot more than med school grades, and you would likely be taking the same boards wherever you were coming from...

 

[PurpleHaze]

RIDDLE!!!

What do you call a medical student that graduates absolute dead-last in their medical class (at any medical school, M.D. or D.O.)?

Doctor

 

[TimmyTheWonderD]

Well, as Kaplan says -

"SANITY CHECK, C=MD"
After the exhilaration of orientation week comes the hard reality of what it's going to be like just surviving in medical school. Your days are filled with hours of fast-paced lectures delving into mysteries of human anatomy and biochemistry to a level undreamt of before. Then labs, with the nagging feeling that everyone knows what they're looking at except you. You almost welcome the first exams, because this is where you'll really show one and all (including yourself) that you belong in med school. But what happens if you don't ace the exams? Is this objective evidence that you weren't cut out for a career in medicine?
Saying pre-meds are competitive is like saying water is wet. Those who survive the process and win acceptance to medical school rightly feel a huge sense of relief as well as excitement. The prolonged effort required to get in and the joy of being accepted, however, leave many first year med students in a particularly vulnerable state. Once med school begins, most assume that maintaining that same level of effort will automatically bring success. Unfortunately, most will discover that while they excelled as pre-meds, as medical students they are now merely middle-of-the-pack average. The reason lies in the numbers game. If only 1 in 4 applicants are accepted to med school, this means that more than 75% of your classmates in pre-med courses were not as academically strong as you are. Once you're in, though, you are competing only with that elite group who also got in. Add to this the fact that medical school exams tend to teach and assess material in much greater detail, and you begin to understand why so many first year med students will be disappointed by their med school exam performance. More material, stronger competition, less time to master the content–this is the mix that requires a realistic re-appraisal about what it means to be successful.

Ultimately, most students will adjust their expectations, but secretly wonder if they might hurt someone because they forgot or never learned some important detail. In time, most med students will come to realize that med school is a whole new ball game. Making A's on exams doesn't guarantee good clinical performance. Understanding basic mechanisms and key principles is crucial to developing the ability to apply what you know to real patients. Helping a classmate understand cell biology strengthens your own knowledge base. So C=MD isn't a cop out at all, not if it means that you have made the transition from nerd pre-med to medical colleague-in-training. Welcome to being "just average" in a field of stars, friend!

😱

 

[snobored18]

If this is the real question, it would be likely hard to guage. Certainly in allo med schools, those withe the highest GPAs and MCATs upon admission do not necessarilly end up the shining stars of their class - everybody has to make adjustments, and some of the smartest college students are the slowest to cast aside the things that worked for them in the past but no longer are time effective techniques. (Some may also have the hardest time shrugging off a bad grade, leading to a tailspin situation). Thus I wouldn't assume you could be in one part of the class in one school and at the other extreme in another. And it's probably moot anyhow, because the boards matter a lot more than med school grades, and you would likely be taking the same boards wherever you were coming from...

Exactly what I was thinking...its impossible to say because honestly there are going to be enviroments where some people thrive and others don't...and i agree in college a lot of times you see the valdictorians falling flat on their face and some of the people deemed a slacker in high school excel so I completely agree that admissions stats in no way will dictate how successful you will be just as I think SAT/ACT and high school GPAs are terrible predictors...i really really really wish they would release a rank list of board scores it would make decisions and comparisons so much easier

 

[Law2Doc]

Well, as Kaplan says -

"SANITY CHECK, C=MD"
After the exhilaration of orientation week comes the hard reality of what it's going to be like just surviving in medical school. Your days are filled with hours of fast-paced lectures delving into mysteries of human anatomy and biochemistry to a level undreamt of before. Then labs, with the nagging feeling that everyone knows what they're looking at except you. You almost welcome the first exams, because this is where you'll really show one and all (including yourself) that you belong in med school. But what happens if you don't ace the exams? Is this objective evidence that you weren't cut out for a career in medicine?
Saying pre-meds are competitive is like saying water is wet. Those who survive the process and win acceptance to medical school rightly feel a huge sense of relief as well as excitement. The prolonged effort required to get in and the joy of being accepted, however, leave many first year med students in a particularly vulnerable state. Once med school begins, most assume that maintaining that same level of effort will automatically bring success. Unfortunately, most will discover that while they excelled as pre-meds, as medical students they are now merely middle-of-the-pack average. The reason lies in the numbers game. If only 1 in 4 applicants are accepted to med school, this means that more than 75% of your classmates in pre-med courses were not as academically strong as you are. Once you're in, though, you are competing only with that elite group who also got in. Add to this the fact that medical school exams tend to teach and assess material in much greater detail, and you begin to understand why so many first year med students will be disappointed by their med school exam performance. More material, stronger competition, less time to master the content–this is the mix that requires a realistic re-appraisal about what it means to be successful.

Ultimately, most students will adjust their expectations, but secretly wonder if they might hurt someone because they forgot or never learned some important detail. In time, most med students will come to realize that med school is a whole new ball game. Making A's on exams doesn't guarantee good clinical performance. Understanding basic mechanisms and key principles is crucial to developing the ability to apply what you know to real patients. Helping a classmate understand cell biology strengthens your own knowledge base. So C=MD isn't a cop out at all, not if it means that you have made the transition from nerd pre-med to medical colleague-in-training. Welcome to being "just average" in a field of stars, friend!

😱

I would agree with this in general. However I would go further to point out that most won't find themselves in the "middle of the pack average" -- Generally about half will find themselves below average. That's a big shocker to a lot of folks.

 

[DrLalich]

I call them...


Dr. Ricketson

Maybe he should be called Dr.-"Rigged A Spinal Support Out Of A Screwdriver"-Ricketson... I wonder if he was an M.D. or a D.O. 🙄

Or better yet, where he graduated within his medical class...(Sounds like a top 10% type guy to me) 👍

 

[45408]

What's the difference, though -- 90% of the people who are good enough to get into Duke aren't good enough to be in the top 10%.

Thanks for the update. 👍

 

[Taus]

I guess a better way to do this would be to compare the USMLE scores of the top 10% of DO students vs. the bottom 10% of MD students. That eliminates most of the other BS that residencies don't care about anyway.....and what does all this tell you.....NOTHING OF ANY IMPORTANCE

All in all....this thread becomes a mute point if you consider the following.....if you can do okay on your boards and clinical years...you will likely be a good doctor and none of this other bull$hit (degree, scores, etc etc etc...just junk that no patient ever cares about as long as you're a competant a doc) will matter at all. Of course there are a lot of other minor factors that play into all this...but in the end it just comes down to being a competant doc that can relate to patients...

 

[notdeadyet]

Is it better to be an Average or Below Average BS student or an Above Average BA?

They're just degrees...

 

[SigPi]

Is it better to be an Average or Below Average BS student or an Above Average BA?

They're just degrees...

True. However, many intrinsic differences do exist between MD and DO that arent applicable to the the BS/BA or even DMD/DDS analogy. OMM is the most obvious --however, relocating for clinicals, board exam headaches, residency issues and liscensing hassles are some issues that often arise for DO grads that WON'T for the US MD student (in general).

Just choose your path and school carefully, put forth your personal best effort (ie dont judge your best effort by someone elses work, it may be a higher standard, it may be lower) and let the cards fall where they may.

 

[medhacker]

Thowever, relocating for clinicals, board exam headaches, residency issues and liscensing hassles are some issues that often arise for DO grads that WON'T for the US MD student (in general).

None of those things are applicable to all DO students. Those are issues that arise for SOME DO grads.

 

[Law2Doc]

Is it better to be an Average or Below Average BS student or an Above Average BA?

They're just degrees...

Not an accurate analogy -- the same kind of institutions give BA and BS. Aside from the fact that it's actually sometimes a (negligible) benefit for diversity reasons to have a BA in some non-sci areas, rather than a detriment as your post suggests, MD and DO represent different school systems, with different histories, different philosophies (whether practiced or not), and different post-graduate paths (DO's have residencies that MD's cannot apply for, and on the flip side are often "boxed out" of some of the more competitive allo residency tracks.)

 

[diosa428]

It depends on the specialty.

In most cases, it would be better to be an above average DO, but there are some residencies that prescribe to the "Confederacy" philosophy of discriminating against minorities (in this case a DO.) I'm not sure why you would want to go to such a residency anyway.

From what I've heard, the residencies that discriminate against DOs are usually either top specialties or top programs and would therefore not accept mediocre MD students either.

 

[SoCuteMD]

All in all....this thread becomes a mute point if you consider the following.....

Sorry, this hit a nerve with me.

Mute=silent

MOOT=subject to debate, arguable

However, more recently people have started using the word "moot" to mean irrelevant. Although it's an accepted use, it's not correct.

 

[Law2Doc]

Although it's an accepted use, it's not correct.

Just FYI, a lot of dictionaries have adopted this (not significant, irrelevant) as an acceptable use of the word as an adjective. See eg.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/moot

Mute however does not mean the same thing (unless, I suppose, you are trying to marginalize those who cannot speak).

 

[golftrippy]

Sorry, this hit a nerve with me.

Mute=silent

MOOT=subject to debate, arguable

However, more recently people have started using the word "moot" to mean irrelevant. Although it's an accepted use, it's not correct.

Actually, not to bust your bubble, but when people use the phrase..."that's a moot point"...they are using moot to mean "already decided" and that is an alternate proper definition of the word

Moot-of no legal significance (as having been previously decided)

If you are going to play the word police, you've got to be more careful 😉

 

[Taus]

Sorry, this hit a nerve with me.

Mute=silent

MOOT=subject to debate, arguable

However, more recently people have started using the word "moot" to mean irrelevant. Although it's an accepted use, it's not correct.

this is a message board...not an essay writing contest.....as long as you get the point of what I said....let it go....

 

[Taus]

From what I've heard, the residencies that discriminate against DOs are usually either top specialties or top programs and would therefore not accept mediocre MD students either.

from my experience..that is true...just how it is...such is life...


"relocating for clinicals, board exam headaches, residency issues and liscensing hassles are some issues that often arise for DO grads that WON'T for the US MD student"

SigPi, I understand what you're talking about here, but that is not the case w/ the majority of DO schools. Except for my elective rotations, I won't be travelling anywhere remotely far from my school. And as for board exams, its really not a big deal and seems logical that if one wants a competative Allo residency, one should take the USMLE. Its one more test on one day...and you have already studied for it when studying for the USMLE (minus the OMM and more anatomy that comes w/ it). Liscencing issues are also rare in this day and age for most specialties....there are exceptions but even those have ways to make it work.

Is all this a little bit of extra work....sure...but for me its worth it....for others its not.

btw I know I really shouldn't put this much effort into a post in a Pre-MD forum where most people are skipping this post entirely...but for the few people who are really thinking about this issue....I hope this has helped.

 

[SoCuteMD]

Actually, not to bust your bubble, but when people use the phrase..."that's a moot point"...they are using moot to mean "already decided" and that is an alternate proper definition of the word

Moot-of no legal significance (as having been previously decided)

If you are going to play the word police, you've got to be more careful 😉

Well, using the phrase "of no legal significance" would not have fit in the sentence. I am careful 🙂. I am also the daughter of a lawyer and an English teacher.

I was more pointing out the use of "mute" as it's a common mistake and often hits a nerve with sticklers (considering a large portion of medicine is anal retentive type A's, I'd say there's a chance you'll run into one or two). Better on a message board than in a med school interview 🙂.

 

[Taus]

"considering a large portion of medicine is anal retentive type A's"

this is also true....

 

[NRAI2001]

Obviously its always better to be at the top of wherever you end up...now I favor allo because for the life of me I can't figure out the difference between MD and DO besides that MD applicants are better scholars by traditional measurements (no one get pissed this is the truth the average MCATs and GPA are much higher...but no one can say this equates to someone being a better physician). Thus I sort of don't understand if OMM isn't really used why we don't just have one degree so there aren't these arguments (but of course there still would be because even allos will argue about how much better one school is than another instead of accepting they are all "good" and have their strengths and weaknesses and that a great school for one person is a lousy one for another etc. etc.). Anyways...I think the real question to OP is getting at is that could a student at the lower end of a MD school be at the top of a DO school, and thus which would be the better choice. My answer is you need to go to the school that is the BEST fit for YOU...only then will you be able to reach you maximum potential and that will give you tools to go forward. So don't judge the degree judge the school and how well its strengths and weaknesses compliment you...thats the best way to go.

I guess a better analogy would be comparing a state college to a top public or ivy league college.

Would you rather go to a top college and get a 3.2 or go to a state school and get a 3.8.

I would rather be the big fish in the small pond; you stand out more.

 

[Law2Doc]

I guess a better analogy would be comparing a state college to a top public or ivy league college.

Would you rather go to a top college and get a 3.2 or go to a state school and get a 3.8.

I would rather be the big fish in the small pond; you stand out more.

I still don't think it's a good analogy. With a 3.8 from a state school, you could still end up at eg. Harvard. But with a DO degree, you are unlikely going to be able to compete realistically for certain competitive residencies at MGH. (Not that the odds are that good coming from allo, but they are at least not as close to zero).

 

[skypilot]

Maybe he should be called Dr.-"Rigged A Spinal Support Out Of A Screwdriver"-Ricketson... I wonder if he was an M.D. or a D.O. 🙄

Or better yet, where he graduated within his medical class...(Sounds like a top 10% type guy to me) 👍

Just for fun I looked him up..... M.D., U of Oklahoma, class of 1987. Just goes to show yah. 🙂

 

[Snacker]

I am a 4th yr student at an MD program, who has just finished interviewing for residency positions in Emergency Medicine.

I can assure everyone that it is MUCH wiser to attend an MD school than DO. By all means, DO's are not inferior to MD's, however when it comes to applying to residency programs, having DO behind your name WILL hurt you. Some residency programs don't even consider interviewing DO students. Just look at the match statistics. It is MUCH better to be an average MD student than a superior DO student, just because of the nature of the academic environment in medicine.

 

[medhacker]

Not an accurate analogy -- the same kind of institutions give BA and BS. Aside from the fact that it's actually sometimes a (negligible) benefit for diversity reasons to have a BA in some non-sci areas, rather than a detriment as your post suggests, MD and DO represent different school systems, with different histories, different philosophies (whether practiced or not), and different post-graduate paths (DO's have residencies that MD's cannot apply for, and on the flip side are often "boxed out" of some of the more competitive allo residency tracks.)

UMDNJ gives both the MD and DO degree.

 

[mtDNA]

in answer to the OPs question, in terms of getting into residency, you have a leg up if you're an MD. no doubt about it. don't flame me for this. its the truth almost everywhere.
-mota

Ok, Im not flaming you, but I feel that I need to point out that this is not a true statement. You are basically saying that MDs have a better chance at residency in general. Definitely not true becaue DO's have their own osteopathic residencies to apply to. In primary care specialties, there are more than enough osteopathic residencies to go around. Even in specialties outside of primary care, there are plenty of osteopathic programs for those who are qualified. In terms of extremely competitve specialties, I would say MD is a huge "leg up" because DO's don't have very many programs for these (like plastic surgery and derm for examples). I felt compelled to point these things out because there is already way too much misinformation about osteopathic medicine out there.

 

[medhacker]

however when it comes to applying to residency programs, having DO behind your name WILL hurt you. Some residency programs don't even consider interviewing DO students. Just look at the match statistics. It is MUCH better to be an average MD student than a superior DO student, just because of the nature of the academic environment in medicine.

This is a wide generalization which responds to anecdotal experience. The fact that you do not see that many DOs in some residencies does not necessarily mean they are being outright discriminated against. Do a survey on DO students and see how many actually "want" to or apply to a fraction of these residencies in that match list. Again, this is an unsubstantiated personal generalization.

 

[mtDNA]

I am a 4th yr student at an MD program, who has just finished interviewing for residency positions in Emergency Medicine.

I can assure everyone that it is MUCH wiser to attend an MD school than DO. By all means, DO's are not inferior to MD's, however when it comes to applying to residency programs, having DO behind your name WILL hurt you. Some residency programs don't even consider interviewing DO students. Just look at the match statistics. It is MUCH better to be an average MD student than a superior DO student, just because of the nature of the academic environment in medicine.

Again, this is of course going to be true for allopathic residency programs such as the ones that you are reffering to. But DO's have their own residency programs, and it turns that ER is actually a pretty big D.O. field (there are plenty of good osteopathic residencies, especially in Michigan).

Look, as far as choosing between MD and DO goes, if you get into an MD school, I say go for that, but don't write off DO schools, becaues for most of the applicants out there, an osteopathic school can easily get them where they want to be. The last interview I went to was at Medical College of Wisconsin (MD program). While I was there, I met a guy who reapplied for 3 years before getting in. I asked him what specialty he was into, and he said family practice. I then asked if he had ever applied DO, and he said that he didn't. Honestly, that is a terrible choice in my opinion, because DO's are gauranteed a family practice residency if they graduate and they want it. This guy would be 1 year away from being a doctor, instead, he is MS1! If he wanted to go into Neurosurgery, then maybe I could understand going all out for the MD, but for family practice, that is just crazy. Thats why misinformation is bad news, people hear bad things about D.O., then they do stuff like that.

 

[medhacker]

Again, this is of course going to be true for allopathic residency programs such as the ones that you are reffering to. But DO's have their own residency programs, and it turns that ER is actually a pretty big D.O. field (there are plenty of good osteopathic residencies, especially in Michigan).

Look, as far as choosing between MD and DO goes, if you get into an MD school, I say go for that, but don't write off DO schools, becaues for most of the applicants out there, an osteopathic school can easily get them where they want to be. The last interview I went to was at Medical College of Wisconsin (MD program). While I was there, I met a guy who reapplied for 3 years before getting in. I asked him what specialty he was into, and he said family practice. I then asked if he had ever applied DO, and he said that he didn't. Honestly, that is a terrible choice in my opinion, because DO's are gauranteed a family practice residency if they graduate and they want it. This guy would be 1 year away from being a doctor, instead, he is MS1! If he wanted to go into Neurosurgery, then maybe I could understand going all out for the MD, but for family practice, that is just crazy. Thats why misinformation is bad news, people hear bad things about D.O., then they do stuff like that.

excellent example 👍

 

[DrBowtie]

Again, this is of course going to be true for allopathic residency programs such as the ones that you are reffering to. But DO's have their own residency programs, and it turns that ER is actually a pretty big D.O. field (there are plenty of good osteopathic residencies, especially in Michigan).

Look, as far as choosing between MD and DO goes, if you get into an MD school, I say go for that, but don't write off DO schools, becaues for most of the applicants out there, an osteopathic school can easily get them where they want to be. The last interview I went to was at Medical College of Wisconsin (MD program). While I was there, I met a guy who reapplied for 3 years before getting in. I asked him what specialty he was into, and he said family practice. I then asked if he had ever applied DO, and he said that he didn't. Honestly, that is a terrible choice in my opinion, because DO's are gauranteed a family practice residency if they graduate and they want it. This guy would be 1 year away from being a doctor, instead, he is MS1! If he wanted to go into Neurosurgery, then maybe I could understand going all out for the MD, but for family practice, that is just crazy. Thats why misinformation is bad news, people hear bad things about D.O., then they do stuff like that.

A Caribbean MD grad is also pretty much guarenteed an FP spot too.

 

[DrHuang]

All in all....this thread becomes a mute point if you consider the following.....

it's supposed to be 'moot' instead of 'mute' isn't it? just wondering because ive been using moot all my life

 

[medhacker]

it's supposed to be 'moot' instead of 'mute' isn't it? just wondering because ive been using moot all my life

It often helps to read most of the thread before posting

 

[DrHuang]

It often helps to read most of the thread before posting

i did...i just didnt have anything to contribute 😛