Is it easier to get published in med school compared to undergrad?

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In undergrad, my PI's have made it so hard for me to get a publication. After working 3 years in one lab, I finally was able to submit one 3rd author manuscript (still hasn't been published).

Given that my specialty of interest (so far) requires a good number of publications, is it easier to get published in med school? Any stories of med students who had no pubs in undergrad but a bunch in med school?

 

[Dr. Anonymouss]

Yes. The difference comes down to the type of research you do. If you do basic science research then no, don’t expect it to be faster. If you do clinical research like 99% of the medical students who participate in some form of research, then yes you can publish

 

[NickNaylor]

You will very likely find it easier to get involved in research opportunities which will obviously increase the likelihood of getting publications. Many medical schools have formal research programs as part of the curriculum or offer those experiences supplementally. As mentioned above, the most important factor in getting "tangibles" from research experience is 1) actually doing the work necessary to get those tangibles and 2) the type of research being done. A lot of clinical research, educational research, etc. is significantly easier to publish and easier to work on since a lot of the pitfalls of work in a lab aren't present.

 

[DNAJB6]

Some of this also depends on the PI and the lab. At the undergraduate level I helped design an experiment and performed the analysis and interpretation. I was mentioned in the footnote and not listed as an author. 🙁

 

[Goro]

Some of this also depends on the PI and the lab.

...and the project.

 

[Dr. Anonymouss]

Some of this also depends on the PI and the lab. At the undergraduate level I helped design an experiment and performed the analysis and interpretation. I was mentioned in the footnote and not listed as an author. 🙁

That would make me livid, assuming you put in a decent amount of effort into the project. I will never understand why some PI’s are such dinguses and don’t want to include those who contributed. Everyone is aware that having one’s name on a publication is a big accomplishment, and certainly helps in terms of opening more doors and opportunities in higher education. Even if you were the second to last author, your name should still be included if you contributed towards the success of the project.
Edit: I guess the language I want to use gets autocorrected to dingus on SDN, but none the less they are dinguses.

 

[DNAJB6]

That would make me livid, assuming you put in a decent amount of effort into the project. I will never understand why some PI’s are such dinguses and don’t want to include those who contributed. Everyone is aware that having one’s name on a publication is a big accomplishment, and certainly helps in terms of opening more doors and opportunities in further education. Even if you were the second to last author, your name should still be included if you contributed towards the success of the project.
Edit: I guess the language I want to use gets autocorrected to dingus on SDN, but none the less they are dinguses.

I felt the same way. We parted shortly after.

 

[Lucca]

yes. I have classmates who literally published 10+ papers a year during preclin jumping onto clinical projects near completion over and over. There are more projects and opportunities to join projects available than students willing to do them by like 10 fold.