Is it just me, or are there tons of mormons at your interviews?

[bqj]

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7 interviews and there hasn't been one yet without someone from utah or who is LDS.

 

[IndyZX]

how awful for you

 

[SanDiegoSOD]

From what I hear, the 2-year religious missions that Mormons go on really help in getting interviews. Am I safe in assuming that you are interviewing in the Mid-West and/or Northwest? Those areas are especially high in LDS population.

 

[bqj]

how awful for you

relax indy, i just found it interesting.

 

[UCLAstudent]

7 interviews and there hasn't been one yet without someone from utah or who is LDS.

Same here, at all of my interviews. 🙂

 

[NubianPrincess]

religious beliefs haven't yet come up in my interactions with other interviewees, so I really cannot say.

 

[leechy]

From what I hear, the 2-year religious missions that Mormons go on really help in getting interviews. Am I safe in assuming that you are interviewing in the Mid-West and/or Northwest? Those areas are especially high in LDS population.

Actually, I've seen a lot of LDS folks (men usually) on the interview trail even at schools far away from the west. I'm sure they've got some great international experiences through their missions.

 

[IndyZX]

relax indy, i just found it interesting.

i was just being a smartass. i have actually noticed it, too.

 

[bqj]

Actually, I've seen a lot of LDS folks (men usually) on the interview trail even at schools far away from the west. I'm sure they've got some great international experiences through their missions.

agreed. all but one of the 7 schools have been in the east.

 

[patzan]

religious beliefs haven't yet come up in my interactions with other interviewees, so I really cannot say.

Religious beliefs don't have to be brought up. This is usually how it works:

"Where are you from?"
"Utah."
"Are you Mormon?"
"Yes."

or...

"Where do go to school?"
"BYU (or U of U)."
"Are you Mormon?"
"Yes."

Mormonism (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) is the 5th largest religion in the U.S. You're bound to run into us, especially in academia. There is a high percentage of Mormons that go into medicine, dentistry, etc.

 

[NubianPrincess]

Hahaa, but you see, it is still being brought up ("are you mormon" question) When I say "religious beliefs" I'm not alluding to carrying on a detailed conversation about the tenants of one's faith. Interesting 😉 I'm not in Kansas anymore.

 

[adamj61]

8 posts away from a 1000 so I will chime in on this one. High percentage of mormons? That is BS. I am sorry, but your religious sect has no effect on the distribution of IQ. Maybe work ethic like the Lutherns and Amish. But come on, 5th biggest religion? Tell me please anyone, what comes after Christianity that is remotely the same percentage. Of course you will run into someone....but its no different than running into someone with say a pink under shirt

 

[patzan]

8 posts away from a 1000 so I will chime in on this one. High percentage of mormons? That is BS. I am sorry, but your religious sect has no effect on the distribution of IQ. Maybe work ethic like the Lutherns and Amish. But come on, 5th biggest religion? Tell me please anyone, what comes after Christianity that is remotely the same percentage. Of course you will run into someone....but its no different than running into someone with say a pink under shirt

Ok, I'm going to have to call your ignorance on this one. 1) Mormons are Christians. 2) I made no claim of IQ, you can look it up on the AAMC website (alluding to another post of mine saying that Utah had the highest MCAT composite of any state). 3) Yes, 5th biggest religion in the US.

EDIT: I misspoke, Washington beat Utah by 0.1 pts. in 2003.

 

[Stitch66]

Hahaa, but you see, it is still being brought up ("are you mormon" question) When I say "religious beliefs" I'm not alluding to carrying on a detailed conversation about the tenants of one's faith. Interesting 😉 I'm not in Kansas anymore.

to save you future embarassment, the word is "tenets"

 

[NubianPrincess]

I suppose I would be embarrassed if I took myself extremely too seriously. Thank you for the correction.

 

[indo]

she meant tenants...those who actually live in their beliefs. Perhaps they pay rent.

 

[adamj61]

Ok, I'm going to have to call your ignorance on this one. 1) Mormons are Christians. 2) I made no claim of IQ, you can look it up on the AAMC website (alluding to another post of mine saying that Utah had the highest MCAT composite of any state). 3) Yes, 5th biggest religion in the US.

You just said it was Christianity, but the 5th biggest RELIGION. I was taught in Lutheran grade school it is not a part of christianity. I believe the catholic church also does not recognize it, but who knows.

Composite MCAT? You really think that matters. You don't think the statistics between big and small states makes a difference? I am calling your ignorance man

 

[NubianPrincess]

she meant tenants...those who actually live in their beliefs. Perhaps they pay rent.

😉 Glad we're on the same page

 

[patzan]

You just said it was Christianity, but the 5th biggest RELIGION. I was taught in Lutheran grade school it is not a part of christianity. I believe the catholic church also does not recognize it, but who knows.

Composite MCAT? You really think that matters. You don't think the statistics between big and small states makes a difference? I am calling your ignorance man

No, I took statistics and know that the sample sizes are sufficient. I AM A MORMON and KNOW MYSELF that I am a Christian. How dare you tell me I don't believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior? Stop arguing with me about what I believe. Now you can go teach your Lutheran grade school teacher something.

 

[patzan]

Sorry, I misspoke again, it is 4th.

http://www.adherents.com/rel_USA.html#bodies

 

[Stitch66]

😉 Glad we're on the same page

There is no reason to be defensive or insulted that I corrected you. Sometimes people use words incorrectly on a repeated basis and are simply not aware of it. I would prefer to be corrected in that type of situation.

It is not meant as an attack on your intelligence.

On a different note, my computer utilizes a pop-up blocker so I am unaware of the contents of your private message you attempted to send me. Let's just end it there.

 

[Jeffy]

No, I took statistics and know that the sample sizes are sufficient. I AM A MORMON and KNOW MYSELF that I am a Christian. How dare you tell me I don't believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior? Stop arguing with me about what I believe. Now you can go teach your Lutheran grade school teacher something.

Finally. I was waiting to see how long it would take for someone on this thread to drop a J-Bomb.

 

[BobA]

Six interviews, 6 mormons, one Buddhist.

I'd say that there's a lot to like about a doctor who strictly adheres to a religion. 1) They're probably good students, and aren't distracted by things like booze and pot, etc. 2) Mormons in particular seem to have a focus on getting married pretty young. A wife and children could be a pretty good motivator. 3) International experience & language skills.

 

[NubianPrincess]

There is no reason to be defensive or insulted that I corrected you. Sometimes people use words incorrectly on a repeated basis and are simply not aware of it. I would prefer to be corrected in that type of situation.

It is not meant as an attack on your intelligence.

On a different note, my computer utilizes a pop-up blocker so I am unaware of the contents of your private message you attempted to send me. Let's just end it there.

I'm not defensive about the fact that you corrected me. I just was curious about the wording you chose when you corrected me. However, we can surely end it here. Have a good night.

 

[bigdan]

At the risk of interrupting the enlightening discussion, I wanted to offer that I have only encountered one Mormon in 8 interviews.

dc

 

[VPDcurt]

"Longitudes and Attitudes" is a great book by the way. Very informative and descriptive about LDS.

 

[Ypo.]

7 interviews and there hasn't been one yet without someone from utah or who is LDS.

I interviewed at KCOM (an osteopathic school) that had a lot of mormons. Hey, Mormons are for the most part, industrious, honest and hard-working. You'll find them in all sorts of challenging professions. 🙂

 

[mwcourtney]

Not to say that Mormons are or are not Christians, but are there not teachings within the Book of Mormon which contradict the Bible itself? Such as, that Christ revealed himself to Joseph Smith in New York in the 1800's, but Christ said that He would not be revealed to people until his return the way he left Earth (Acts1:1-11). Also, Christianity claims that you cannot work your way into heaven (Ephesians 2:8-9), but Mormonism claims that you must work a certain amount of years in order to go to heaven. Christians work for Christ due to their love for Christ, not so Christ will love them. Also, if polygany was not illegal in the states, it would be a practice of Mormonism. 1st Corinthians 7 claims people should only have 1 wife/husband.

With that being said, how does Mormonism agree with Christ's statement in Matthew 12:26, "No house divided against itself will stand"? How can a certain sect disagree with certain statements of Christ himself, and still claim to be part of the body of Christ?

 

[VPDcurt]

Not to say that Mormons are or are not Christians, but are there not teachings within the Book of Mormon which contradict the Bible itself? Such as, that Christ revealed himself to Joseph Smith in New York in the 1800's, but Christ said that He would not be revealed to people until his return the way he left Earth (Acts1:1-11). Also, Christianity claims that you cannot work your way into heaven (Ephesians 2:8-9), but Mormonism claims that you must work a certain amount of years in order to go to heaven. Christians work for Christ due to their love for Christ, not so Christ will love them. Also, if polygany was not illegal in the states, it would be a practice of Mormonism. 1st Corinthians 7 claims people should only have 1 wife/husband.

With that being said, how does Mormonism agree with Christ's statement in Matthew 12:26, "No house divided against itself will stand"? How can a certain sect disagree with certain statements of Christ himself, and still claim to be part of the body of Christ?

They call themselves Christians but they aren't truly Christians when it all boils down to it. It's like how people always say that Jews believe the same thing that Christians believe, except that they are still waiting for the messiah. Well, to me, that is an exceptionally fundamental belief. I wouldn't worry too much about the formalities of taking on a name with respect to a religion. It is the belief system that is much more significant.

 

[Ypo.]

You guys are touching down on a hot topic here with Mormons. I will leave it to others to inform you.

 

[Ypo.]

Not to say that Mormons are or are not Christians, but are there not teachings within the Book of Mormon which contradict the Bible itself? Such as, that Christ revealed himself to Joseph Smith in New York in the 1800's, but Christ said that He would not be revealed to people until his return the way he left Earth (Acts1:1-11). Also, Christianity claims that you cannot work your way into heaven (Ephesians 2:8-9), but Mormonism claims that you must work a certain amount of years in order to go to heaven. Christians work for Christ due to their love for Christ, not so Christ will love them. Also, if polygany was not illegal in the states, it would be a practice of Mormonism. 1st Corinthians 7 claims people should only have 1 wife/husband.

With that being said, how does Mormonism agree with Christ's statement in Matthew 12:26, "No house divided against itself will stand"? How can a certain sect disagree with certain statements of Christ himself, and still claim to be part of the body of Christ?

Couldn't resist. There are teachings within the bible that contradict teachings in the bible. Grow up and quit trying to rationalize religion. 🙄

 

[mwcourtney]

Couldn't resist. There are teachings within the bible that contradict teachings in the bible. Grow up and quit trying to rationalize religion. 🙄

Not to argue with you, but name one. Other than translational errors from Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic...

 

[akpete]

Did anybody else look at the title of this thread and think it said "*****" like I did?

 

[nockamura]

Not to argue with you, but name one. Other than translational errors from Hebrew/Greek/Aramaic...

Ok, I'm game. There are dozens, but here are some of the larger ones.
1.)EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
vs. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
2.)PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
vs. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
vs. 1 Cor.1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
3.)PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
vs. PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
There are more, but you get the idea.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

7 interviews and there hasn't been one yet without someone from utah or who is LDS.

how do you know? do they discuss it? announce it? I mean they look like normal ordinary people.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

You just said it was Christianity, but the 5th biggest RELIGION. I was taught in Lutheran grade school it is not a part of christianity. I believe the catholic church also does not recognize it, but who knows.

Composite MCAT? You really think that matters. You don't think the statistics between big and small states makes a difference? I am calling your ignorance man

Some "Christian" religions also differentiate Catholics from themselves, so it's all a matter of perspective.

 

[SFAJess]

Did anybody else look at the title of this thread and think it said "*****" like I did?

I did too!! I was hoping to get some entertainment tonight while not studying for my ecology test that is tomorrow. I was sadly disappointed. 🙁

Anybody have any stories about *****s at their interviews??? My friend said when he went to a certain interview, that there was this guy that got up on the microphone that the dean had spoken on during lunch and talked about how he was running for president and that they all should vote for him. Pretty *****ic, huh? Sad thing is-this guy has like a 38 MCAT!

 

[Psycho Doctor]

They call themselves Christians but they aren't truly Christians when it all boils down to it. It's like how people always say that Jews believe the same thing that Christians believe, except that they are still waiting for the messiah. Well, to me, that is an exceptionally fundamental belief. I wouldn't worry too much about the formalities of taking on a name with respect to a religion. It is the belief system that is much more significant.

Good point. Many people call themselves Christians when they aren't saved. God says we must be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Ok, I'm game. There are dozens, but here are some of the larger ones.
1.)EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
vs. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
2.)PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
vs. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
vs. 1 Cor.1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
3.)PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
vs. PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
There are more, but you get the idea.

everything in the Bible must be read in context to be meaningful.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Anybody have any stories about *****s at their interviews??? My friend said when he went to a certain interview, that there was this guy that got up on the microphone that the dean had spoken on during lunch and talked about how he was running for president and that they all should vote for him. Pretty *****ic, huh? Sad thing is-this guy has like a 38 MCAT!

goes to show there are higher MCATers and high GPAers who are social *****s and would be rejected based on interview alone..see the interview does count

 

[SFAJess]

goes to show there are higher MCATers and high GPAers who are social *****s and would be rejected based on interview alone..see the interview does count

True that! 👍

 

[stinkycheese]

No, I took statistics and know that the sample sizes are sufficient. I AM A MORMON and KNOW MYSELF that I am a Christian. How dare you tell me I don't believe in Jesus Christ as my Savior? Stop arguing with me about what I believe.

I find it interesting that Mormons believe that they fall under the umbrella of "Christianity" despite what the Catholic Church and other Christian faiths believe about Mormonism. The reason I find this interesting is that Mormons do not like it when Fundamentalist Mormons (such as those who live in polygamy in rural Utah) refer to themselves as Mormon. Mormons will insist that Fundamentalists are not Mormons, despite what the Fundamentalists believe about themselves and their faith, but then their feathers get ruffled when people say that Mormons are not Christian. It's a double standard.

 

[mwcourtney]

Ok, I'm game. There are dozens, but here are some of the larger ones.
1.)EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
vs. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
2.)PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
vs. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
vs. 1 Cor.1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
3.)PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
vs. PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
There are more, but you get the idea.

Reply:

1. The Lord is the same as he always has been, do not get me wrong, but there was a paradigm shift of the nature of his people from the Old to New Testament. Tell me this, if the Lord created peace, could he also create war? He had to create one to create the other. Then humanity says that if we were God we would have created only peace. You tell me how you would know how good peace is if you didn't know how bad war is? It was humanities decision to take part in war...not the Lord's. War and destruction were not part of God's plan...Genesis 1-2.

2. We all should get wisdom, that is exemplified by Solomon. But Solomon, who said, Ecc1:18 also understood that with wisdom comes much grief. Such as you know that 30,000,000 are suffering in Africa from AIDS=Our grief for them, but if you didn't know this, you would not have grief over it. 1st Cor 1:19...in the light of the creator of all things, don't you think man's wisdom is nothing compared to the creator of all wisdom...that is all that is being said in this passage.

3. Not saying that anyone is a fool on this page...don't get me wrong again. But if I was to not answer you on what you have said, would you consider my beliefs to be concrete (I a fool...you wise)...Proverbs 26:5, but at the same time, since I am answering you on this topic, I am rebutting what I think to be wrong Proverbs 26:6...so I am once again caught in folly (I a fool, you a fool). It is a great catch 22, that is all King David is trying to explain in this passage, not a contradiction

 

[stinkycheese]

It's like how people always say that Jews believe the same thing that Christians believe, except that they are still waiting for the messiah. Well, to me, that is an exceptionally fundamental belief. .

Jews do not believe what Christians believe. The initial difference was in the fact that Jewish people do not believe that the Messiah has come, but since that initial parting of the two faiths, the religions have evolved into very different belief structures, cultures, and faiths. I do not know one Jewish person who would claim to believe what Christianity believes (-) Christ.

 

[stinkycheese]

Ok, I'm game. There are dozens, but here are some of the larger ones.
1.)EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
vs. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
2.)PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
vs. ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
vs. 1 Cor.1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
3.)PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
vs. PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.
There are more, but you get the idea.

These don't seem like contradictions to me, but rather, semantic issues in interpretation, all of which are up for debate.

 

[stinkycheese]

Good point. Many people call themselves Christians when they aren't saved. God says we must be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God.

Jews don't call themselves Christians 🙄 Perhaps you are thinking of Jews for Jesus, which is a cult of Christian missionaries that try to recruit Jews --> Christianity by pretending to be Jews who accept Jesus. Jewish people don't believe in Jesus and don't call themselves Christians. And they seem pretty happy having not been "saved"!

 

[bqj]

Reply:

1. The Lord is the same as he always has been, do not get me wrong, but there was a paradigm shift of the nature of his people from the Old to New Testament. Tell me this, if the Lord created peace, could he also create war? He had to create one to create the other. Then humanity says that if we were God we would have created only peace. You tell me how you would know how good peace is if you didn't know how bad war is? It was humanities decision to take part in war...not the Lord's. War and destruction were not part of God's plan...Genesis 1-2.

2. We all should get wisdom, that is exemplified by Solomon. But Solomon, who said, Ecc1:18 also understood that with wisdom comes much grief. Such as you know that 30,000,000 are suffering in Africa from AIDS=Our grief for them, but if you didn't know this, you would not have grief over it. 1st Cor 1:19...in the light of the creator of all things, don't you think man's wisdom is nothing compared to the creator of all wisdom...that is all that is being said in this passage.

3. Not saying that anyone is a fool on this page...don't get me wrong again. But if I was to not answer you on what you have said, would you consider my beliefs to be concrete (I a fool...you wise)...Proverbs 26:5, but at the same time, since I am answering you on this topic, I am rebutting what I think to be wrong Proverbs 26:6...so I am once again caught in folly (I a fool, you a fool). It is a great catch 22, that is all King David is trying to explain in this passage, not a contradiction

yeah, i was worried this thread would spawn something like this, which wasn't my intention. i think it's awesome that you meet all sorts of people from these interviews and that the majority is really cool and normal students.

 

[Xandie]

Perhaps you are thinking of Jews for Jesus, which is a cult of Christian missionaries that try to recruit Jews --> Christianity by pretending to be Jews who accept Jesus.

While I appreciated the rest of your post, I take issue with that. JFJ is not a cult of Christian anything, much as some members of it may espouse Christian and not Jewish beliefs.
[/soapbox]

Also, on the whole "Mormons aren't Christian" thing. Is anyone just Christian? Or are people Lutheran, Methodist, Dutch Reform, etc? Christian is the broad classification of people who believe that Jesus (or Y'shua, depending on your particular persuasion) was the first coming of the Messiah.

Stepping one more step down off the soapbox...

 

[Psycho Doctor]

Jews don't call themselves Christians 🙄 Perhaps you are thinking of Jews for Jesus, which is a cult of Christian missionaries that try to recruit Jews --> Christianity by pretending to be Jews who accept Jesus. Jewish people don't believe in Jesus and don't call themselves Christians. And they seem pretty happy having not been "saved"!

then that goes along with what i was saying....except there are Jews for Jesus who do believe in Jesus as their savior

 

[bqj]

Did anybody else look at the title of this thread and think it said "*****" like I did?

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