Is It Over?

[pietachok]

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Chill out. I said "most" not "all".

Considering it took you 2 application cycles with no acceptances first and then finally getting into your CA school, you fall under the category I spoke of, in which someone with weaker grades can potentially bust their *** for a couple more years longer and look like a unique applicant. MOST people may not be up for 3 cycles. If anything, I'm at fault for making the assumption that OP doesn't have the tenacity to grill it out for 3 years after graduation to make up for weaker grades.

It doesn't matter whether you say all or most. You still have no data to show that MOST with a single F in Orgo go to DO programs and you made it up, which does not help people.

Also, incorrect assumptions aren't a great basis for naive advice. Clearly you looked at my past posts to figure out that I re-applied, but you failed to read enough to notice that it wasn't my grades that changed. I'm not one of those who "busted my ass" to make myself "look like a unique applicant" in the subsequent cycle, and I didn't "grill it out for 3 years to make up for weaker grades." I took no further classes and was merely a non-trad who continued working in my career. I probably would have done just fine in the first round if I'd been on my own, b/c contrary to what you seem to think, a 3.5 GPA, an F, a few C's, and similar issues are not application killers.

My committee letter was erroneous in the first 2 cycles (and was not sent until December in cycle 1), which thankfully a dean disclosed to me in an application post-mortem. As soon as I ditched the committee letter for individual LORs and included one from my employer, I was ok (several MD interviews) even with my pathetic 3.5 GPA. You can be smug, but many qualified applicants have to re-apply every year, and what tanked my apps the first 2 cycles was out of my control and is something that could happen to anybody with bad luck. (The caveat is that my bad committee letter may have been more glaringly wrong if I had been a 4.o student).

As I said before, this isn't a race -- someone who is getting F's and C's is not going to benefit from trying to do this as quickly as possible.

 

[pietachok]

We're simply going to have to agree to disagree. The only way to genuinely fail organic as you indicate requires complete failure to apply yourself in and out of class. In fact, I think it would take more than this, it would probably indicate failure to master inorganic chemistry concepts meaning someone must have gamed the system as previously mentioned, found an easy professor, and learned nothing to their detriment.

Quite a few schools curve Orgo, routinely leaving students with D's and F's even if they perform better than many counterparts at schools that do not use such a grading system. The school where I took Orgo classes did that. The vast majority of students had a C+/B- in spite of very high average grades. As the semester went on, people only studied harder to make up for the earliest exam scores, which just drove the average upward through both semesters.

 

[failingpremed]

So then don't retake the C's?

 

[failingpremed]

BTW, 2 of the C's are in prereqs and the other isn't, but it's still a science class.

 

[NoRegretslol]

Retake but pretty sure that F will forever stay on your record til death. Which is why it frightens me to get anything below an A. Because anything less than an A will bring down your GPA and stay with you forever. 😢

 

[kyamh]

Which is why it frightens me to get anything below an A. Because anything less than an A will bring down your GPA and stay with you forever. 😢

Uuuuuuhh sarcasm...? I hope.....?

 

[NoRegretslol]

Uuuuuuhh sarcasm...? I hope.....?

no im serious. Why do you think im being sarcastic

 

[kyamh]

no im serious. Why do you think im being sarcastic

Well, for one thing, you said it "frightens" you to get anything less than an A. I mean, yeah, to be a competitive applicant you need good grades, but you need to chill out a little. An A-, a B+, a B, even 😱 a C isn't going to stop you from getting into a great school. I don't know where you are in your pre-med career, but you have to be a little more relaxed and forgiving of your grades. If you look through these threads you will see so many students asking if a B/C whatever is going to keep them out of medical school. The answer is always no! There was a recent thread title something like, how did you handle your first B - your attitude reminded me of that thread. It's not the end of the world to not get an A and I wish that more pre-meds knew this a little earlier so that they could enjoy their college years a little more.

Of anything, I am most thankful for the fact that I only became "pre-med" during senior year of college. I bet I would have been a stressed out neurotic mess if I was constantly terrified of lowering my GPA and not going out and having fun. I don't have a 4.0, though I tried my best and still have a good overall GPA. I've gotten graded lower than a B. I've had semesters that dropped below a 3.5...and it all turned out okay. 😉

 

[Jnet389]

I had 3 F's, 2 W's, and 3 C's. Some occured in the beggining of my college career and some junior year. Retook them all and now accepted to multiple DO schools and had interviews at the only two MD schools I appled to, (decisions pending) and I wish I applied to more, but I didn't because of lack of confidence over my grades. Point is just don't be overly pessimistic about your peformance but also have plenty of A's to offset. Hope this gives some hope buddy