Is it possible not to get accepted into any residency?

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I am not a medical student yet, but was wondering how hard it is to get a residency. Is it possible to graduate medical school and still not be able to be a doctor because you can't get a residency, or does everyone get a residency in some specialty? Also, do students have to pay to apply to programs and fly to interview sites, or do you ever get a break from shelling out money to become a doctor?
 
us grads will most likely match somewhere. maybe not in the specialty or city that you want but if you are flexible you should match. most us grads match in the specialty that they want, but others may need to scramble into the less desirable ones. one of my classmates failed to match for ortho but scrambled for a general surgery residency. everyone in my medical school class matched. noone went unmatched completely with nowhere to go 1 july.

yes you will have to pay for everything when you are applying to residencies. you have to pay for the applicatioin,flying to interviews and paying for a place to stay. it appears from this forum that some programs pay for your place to stay but i haven't seen that. some programs have residents house you prior to the interview. programs are good about feeding you tho.
good luck
 
you can find some work. it may not be in the specialty of your choice, which is unfortunately not all that common, but there will be some specialties which have positions left when it is all said and done.

i had one underclassman who failed multiple classes in the first two years, failed boards step 1 twice, failed step 2 twice, was horrible cliinically and found an ob program willing to take him.
 
Originally posted by smackdaddy
i had one underclassman who failed multiple classes in the first two years, failed boards step 1 twice, failed step 2 twice, was horrible cliinically and found an ob program willing to take him.
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Originally posted by womansurg
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and they kicked 15 people out of his class for failure to thrive.
he survived that rigorous cut list.
 
Yes, it is possible to not match into residency and people do every year. Most people then manage to scramble into a spot after the match so they have somewhere to go.

As far as the interview process.....there are fees to apply through ERAS etc. I think all of my programs provided lodging the night before my interview and several of them reimbursed me for my plane ticket.
 
There was a fellow in my med sch who pretty much failed every year and took eight years to graduate. He wisely did not apply through the match and scrambled for an unfilled Ped spot in Detroit.
 
I was voted most like to scramble. at first i thought it was cool. but now i'm not so sure
 
I wonder why you were voted this dubious honor?
Are you a dreamer? a hopeless optimist? a slacker? or the worst - in incompetent? WELL WHICH IS IT?
 
Originally posted by smackdaddy
and they kicked 15 people out of his class for failure to thrive.
he survived that rigorous cut list.

Whaaaa?!!! There were 15 students worse than this guy in the class?
 
hard to believe but true.
 
sometimes it is not the worst thing in the world not to match.
i have a few friends who didn't match in anything. the year we matched, there were dozens of radiology and anes thesia spots opened which they scrambled into.

who's laughing now?

there's probably some medical school equivalent, but i never heard it
in law school
-a students become professors
-b students become judges
-c students become rich.

don't worry so much about not matching. decide if this is something you want to do or not. if so, some medical school somewhere for mysterious reasons believe you have the right stuff. 😉
thousands of people before you have done it and thousands after will do it.
good luck
 
just noticed the rest of your question-for the most part-yes you have to shell out for interviews. yes if you decide to do a fellowship you shell out for interviews.

when you go for your first 'real' job, then they will start paying.

don't get distracted by these details.
 
what do you call the person who graduates last for medical school??

Doctor!
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Its a joke numbnuts. Hears a dollar, buy a sense of humor.
 
O.k. Annette... you made me feel guilty. My point was that as long as one eventually passes all the necessary exams, they'll probably still be able to get a residency position somewhere. And as long as they do that, in the end, they'll be alright.
 
Originally posted by Dr. Cuts
O.k. Annette... you made me feel guilty. My point was that as long as one eventually passes all the necessary exams, they'll probably still be able to get a residency position somewhere. And as long as they do that, in the end, they'll be alright.
Good for you, Annette. You refuse to stand silently by while people engage in humor directed at folks who are overweight or physically different. You're helping to change people's thinking - one person at a time.

signed -
the fool who erased the laughing emoticons 🙂
 
Geez lighten up... I was not making fun of somebody with an actual disease. The person I was referring to doesn't really have a syndrome or any other disorder. She just eats constantly and doesn't practice personal hygiene. And she treats her medical students very badly. I'm sure if you knew her personally you would feel the same. My point to the OP was that, as exemplified by this resident, as long as you pass your exams and meet minimum standards of competency, you should still be able to get a residency.
 
Originally posted by Dr. Cuts
She just eats constantly and doesn't practice personal hygiene.

You also wrote in a post now not available that she arrived clean shaven and had 5 o'clock shadow by 2, or something to that effect. You also swore she had Stein-Leventhal, which would account for her weight and her hirsutism.

Face it, what you wrote was very offensive. Don't go accusing anyone of not having a sense of humor when you know you are in the wrong. Normally, you have some good points, but you blew this one.
 
lol... she does does not have PCO o.k.? She's just a really mean resident... I'm sure you've worked with residents like that before... and if you've never had a negative thought about them then I commend you on your self-restraint. Didn't realize that so many would take personal offense to a PCO reference 😕 ? Anyway if I offended you I apologize...

To the original poster, I thought about it some more and I just remembered that I do know one person who can't seem to find a residency. He failed Step 1 twice and Step 2 once, but he is now done with all his exams. He's apparently still unable to find a spot anywhere. However, I and others that know him suspect that he's not really trying very hard b/c he's already in a relatively cush position in the medical field that pays almost double a resident's salary. I still think that as long as one puts forth some effort, he should be able to find a spot somewhere, and eventually succeed.
 
I can't quote the offensive part because it has been erased. It wasn't the refrence to PCO that was offensive. Your description of her being overweight and hairy as reasons for her not to have gotten a residency was offensive. Her being mean and incompetent were legitimate reasons for her not to get a residency, her size and hirsutism aren't.
 
i don't think the original poster meant sad for society. i think he/she meant sad for the individual and the family.

the last time i checked, addiction was still a disease.
so he got caught and punished rightly so. we can still feel bad for the guy.
 
when i started medical school there was a guy in my class who had difficulty advancing. 2 1/2 years after i graduated, he was still a medical student and arrested during a clinical month for allegedly killing someone in boston.
they had some kind of traffic accident and the guy sued the med student. when the courts awarded the guy money, the med student lost it. it is alleged that he broke into the guys house, shot his roomate and his dog.
 
Will they let him finish when he gets out?:laugh:
 
i sure hope not!!!! that was a funny question! thanks for making me laugh:laugh:
 
That drug-addict doctor is a sad story of what a drug addiction can do to someone. That doctor wasn't looking to get addicted, he was prescribed a far, far too powerful narcotic for a dental procedure and he was clearly pre-disposed to becoming addicted to narcotics. He didn't try drugs at a party, he was legitimately prescribed a too large of a precription of a too powerful narcotic and became addicted. Why that dentist decided to start that doc on oxycontin vs some of the weaker pain meds or no pain meds is not clear to me. My dad once told me that his dentist gave him some morphine many years ago. He didn't get addicted to it, but the high he got from it did give him plenty of empathy towards drug addicts. To think of it another way, had this doc not had that dental procedure, he'd probably be a normal, practicing physician right now. It sounds like he even had a chance to get treated, but he did not receive the treatment that he needed then too. With most addicts, the system and they failed themselves. It's not fair how some people can try crack or heroin or a legally prescribed narcotic a couple times and walk away from the experience, while others have their entire lives consumed by it. Incidentally, we had surgery professor that was convicted of prescription fraud related to his drug use of oxycontin. I read that they were spending in excess of 200-300,000 a year on oxycontin, with much of their habit being supported by the sale of fraudulent prescriptions. It's scary trying pain meds, because you never know if you are pre-disposed to becoming addicted. Had you asked most physicians who end up addicted whether they had thought there was even a slight possibility that they would become addicted to narcotics, they probably would have laughed in your face.
 
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