Is it possible to match / be ranked by a program without an interview

[narrator]

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sup

I watched the nrmp webinar vid thing where they explained that they, bc not connected to ERAS, have no idea who interviewed/even applied etc.

couldn't this mean someone could technically get ranked without an interview. or like a late, buzzer beater, non-regular interview bc of some high pedigree phone call?

thanks

 

[DrStephenStrange]

A match only happens if you rank a program that also ranks you. So even if NRMP isn’t connected with ERAS, there is no way a program is going to rank you without interviewing you. Unless your dad is the PD of course.

 

[narrator]

A match only happens if you rank a program that also ranks you. So even if NRMP isn’t connected with ERAS, there is no way a program is going to rank you without interviewing you. Unless your dad is the PD of course.

yea I kinda get it. so technically it's possible. just .000001% scenario where you have to know the guy inside and all that

 

[LunaOri]

yea I kinda get it. so technically it's possible. just .000001% scenario where you have to know the guy inside and all that

No matter who you know, a program is not going to rank you without an interview. It takes more than one person to decide whether you are a good fit for their program.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

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A Complete Guide to the Residency Match Process | MedSchoolCoach

Navigating the Residency Match Program requires ample planning. We’re here to help guide you through the process to get matched at your top choice.

www.medschoolcoach.com

The Match involves two parties: ERAS is affiliated with AAMC and AACOM (mostly representing medical schools and academic teaching hospitals); it sets up the application system to schedule interviews. NRMP (representing residency programs collectively) is (in this discussion) a matching algorithm that analyzes match lists from candidates and member residency programs.

Some residency programs can exist outside of the Match. It is my understanding that they don't do ERAS.

I’ve been offered a position outside the Main Residency Match. What should I do?

NRMP policy states that if any of an institution’s programs participate in the Main Residency Match, all of the institution’s programs must offer positions to U.S. MD and U.S.

www.nrmp.org

For example, policies may be established to accommodate transfers. Example

Taking Residents Outside the Match

The below outlines taking resident and fellows outside the Match and not during regularly scheduled orientation season (main Match Day through August 1)

medicine.buffalo.edu

Interesting read

The National Resident Matching Program All-In Policy: Potential Consequences and Ethical Questions

The NRMP’s new “all-in” policy requires every residency program to fill every first-year position either exclusively through the match or outside of it. Programs that continue to offer prematches will operate outside the match.

journalofethics.ama-assn.org

 

[Med Ed]

Could a rogue PD add a non-interviewed candidate to the program's rank list? Technically I suppose they could.

Would this happen? Not within reason.

Candidates can rank programs they did not interview with. It would never generate a match, but they can do it.

 

[narrator]

No matter who you know, a program is not going to rank you without an interview. It takes more than one person to decide whether you are a good fit for their program.

gotcha thanks

 

[narrator]

Could a rogue PD add a non-interviewed candidate to the program's rank list? Technically I suppose they could.

Would this happen? Not within reason.

Candidates can rank programs they did not interview with. It would never generate a match, but they can do it.

makes sense.

technically - there's no drawback to ranking a program you didn't interview with other than wasting time and an application fee, right? since it's applicant-proposing and the algo would just go to the next program in the list?

thanks

 

[Med Ed]

technically - there's no drawback to ranking a program you didn't interview with other than wasting time and an application fee, right? since it's applicant-proposing and the algo would just go to the next program in the list?

There is no "drawback" per se, it would simply be pointless.

 

[narrator]

There is no "drawback" per se, it would simply be pointless.

makes sense thanks cuh

 

[DrStephenStrange]

makes sense.

technically - there's no drawback to ranking a program you didn't interview with other than wasting time and an application fee, right? since it's applicant-proposing and the algo would just go to the next program in the list?

thanks

There is no additional fee associated with ranking extra programs besides the original NRMP registration fee. The application fee only applies to your ERAS application.

 

[narrator]

There is no additional fee associated with ranking extra programs besides the original NRMP registration fee. The application fee only applies to your ERAS application.

ah. good comment.

 

[14_karat]

There is no additional fee associated with ranking extra programs besides the original NRMP registration fee. The application fee only applies to your ERAS application.

But if you go over 20 ranks, you pay $30 per additional rank.

 

[narrator]

But if you go over 20 ranks, you pay $30 per additional rank.

good comment I had that in my memory and forgot