Is it useful to have multiple poster presentations from the same research?

[AORiverContra]

I have the opportunity to present a poster on research that I've done with group next June, which will be 3 weeks after I start 3rd year. I've already presented a poster at one other conference, and we are currently working on a manuscript. The poster would have some new analysis, and the abstract would have a somewhat different focus, though there would be some overlap.

Is it worth it to go from the standpoint of residency apps? Is it advisable to be going to conferences during 3rd year?

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[NotaCop]

From a scientific perspective, as long as the conference guidelines don't prohibit presenting work that has been presented elsewhere in part/whole then you are good to go. Think of it like expanding the reach/impact of your findings, the more you can share them with the better as they hopefully advance or spur discussion in the field

Regarding CV, just title it something new and you should be good. Highlight a new finding in your title of poster/abstract. Since you say you're updating the content already this should be quite easy. Some people will present the exact same poster under two different names, which is where it starts to get questionable. But you have new content so you are good to go

Source: conversations with past mentors

Feel free to disagree, as I'm curious to hear other's opinions on this topic

 

[Robin-jay]

As someone who has a masters degree in chemistry and has done these presentations, I personally think the simple answer is "yes".

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

I would say it has very little value from the perspective of getting into residency. I don't think anyone will be thinking "well, this guy did this one project and he presented in 4 places instead of this guy that only did 1. Let's rank him higher." It may be useful for someone that works in research to be able to reach a wider audience and to be able to network with more people in the field. I would say it would be more interesting if you had a poster and then a powerpoint in another place since it would at least signal different skills in public speaking.

 

[Robin-jay]

I would say it has very little value from the perspective of getting into residency. I don't think anyone will be thinking "well, this guy did this one project and he presented in 4 places instead of this guy that only did 1. Let's rank him higher." It may be useful for someone that works in research to be able to reach a wider audience and to be able to network with more people in the field. I would say it would be more interesting if you had a poster and then a powerpoint in another place since it would at least signal different skills in public speaking.

So, sometimes certain conventions mean a lot more than others.

For example, there are local, regional, national, and international poster presentations.

Same poster for local and then nationals for example, would be very useful.

Often times something like National, will only take one student a year from a given university, even across several departments.

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

So, sometimes certain conventions mean a lot more than others.

For example, there are local, regional, national, and international poster presentations.

Same poster for local and then nationals for example, would be very useful.

Often times something like National, will only take one student a year from a given university, even across several departments.

The question is about its usefulness for purposes of residency. Personally, I don't think much at all. Of course all the factors you mention matter if you are focused on a research career.

 

[Donald Juan]

This one poster certainly will not be some big make or break point on your application. If this poster is one more of your "posters, pubs, abstracts" that totals 10-20 things than I would certainly add it in.

Also, not sure why you wouldn't want to get out of the wards for a few days to go party down at a conference. I assume your school would fund you and let you off.

 

[AORiverContra]

This one poster certainly will not be some big make or break point on your application. If this poster is one more of your "posters, pubs, abstracts" that totals 10-20 things than I would certainly add it in.

Also, not sure why you wouldn't want to get out of the wards for a few days to go party down at a conference. I assume your school would fund you and let you off.

This is the only research thing I have going on lol. So I'm leaning towards going.

 

[Osteoth]

This is the only research thing I have going on lol. So I'm leaning towards going.

Change the name of the poster and make sure there's something you added to the new one so if you get asked on residency interviews you can say, "Oh it was a continuation of this project, but I added x & y and thus felt it merited renewed attention at the regional/national meeting". Good spin that ish.

 

[guytakingboards]

Change the name of the poster and make sure there's something you added to the new one so if you get asked on residency interviews you can say, "Oh it was a continuation of this project, but I added x & y and thus felt it merited renewed attention at the regional/national meeting". Good spin that ish.

Agreed. Make sure your interviewers know you didn't present the same poster at the local level, state level and national level. Some of my co-interviewers almost found that dishonest to list the same poster presentation as three different "presentations/publications".

Side rant: if you're a medical student and you presented a case at the end of the rotation to your team, that doesn't count as an actual presentation. One of my co-chiefs was mighty upset an applicant listed that as a publication (in addition to two other scenarios).

 

[operaman]

Absolutely nothing wrong with presenting multiple times off the same data so long as the conferences are ok with it. I don’t think anyone looks askance at it and it’s actually quite common, especially for larger ongoing projects. New titles and some new findings and nobody will bat an eye. Even doing the exact same presentation can be ok in some circumstances depending on the conferences, though generally most will stipulate they want new material.

Obviously nobody is fooled and thinks you did 3 or 4 entirely new projects, but nobody cares either. It still shows you are being productive and you’re getting your work out there. I think there’s also something to be said for the overall visual impact of your CV, that first impression of seeing a long list of work.

Obviously nothing wrong with going to conferences during third year if your school will allow it. Just make sure you get things approved and let everyone know well in advance. I went and presented at some during my third year and nobody minded at all.