Is retail pharmacy for you?

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Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever. But when the pressure to rush medications a la fast food style, this is why I HATE retail pharmacy. In the case of Wall Greens (and many others), one is pressured to dispense at a rate of 300 drugs per shift; in addition, all the years of schooling (aside from a few calculations) are long forgotten as many retail pharmacists (or pharm techs) are turning into store cashiers. As an aspiring pharmacist, this troubles me. For this reason, if I choose to become a pharmacist, I really feel I would want to do a residency after school to gain entry as some specialization pharmacist in a hospital. Yes, people choose careers for various reasons (and I wrote on this not too long ago), but for me, certainly at this point, if I were to do this job where I'm rushed and my job threatened because of slow 'dispensing', then I would prefer another career like nursing or physician. In fact, I'm highly considering medicine now. If it doesn't work out, then we'll see. While nursing is a great career, too, the money is yet to be as competitive as that of a physician, despite the unbelievably great work they do. A while back, I thought of this possibility, hence my handle: DO Pharm MD

If I proceed with this idea, then I will apply to both D.O. and M.D. schools. I am slowly losing heart with the profession; a profession that do have the brightest of minds, yet that are reduced to 'possible' cashiers of a powerful drug store. What I'm about to share with you has a little bit to do with my likely decision of trying for medicine. I, as well as (highly motivated) Lasagnaboy want a health related career where we are making (an obvious) contribution to society. There are good and bad professionals everywhere. In the video I'm about to share with you, as you'll see, it is quite rare to make positive difference in the lives of sick people that are truly at a pharmacist's mercy... or else. Good luck with your decisions. If I proceed with a pharmacy career, believe me, I'll strive to be the best pharmacist I can be. I'll also make sure that I stay as far away from retail! (SDN1977, a knowledgeable retail pharmacist, will perhaps dissagree) Like they say, someone's gotta do it.

P.S. I hope not to appear arrogant, but any legitimate aspiring professional should ponder on this and hopefully in the future, do something to change it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2997449
 
Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever. But when the pressure to rush medications a la fast food style, this is why I HATE retail pharmacy. In the case of Wall Greens (and many others), one is pressured to dispense at a rate of 300 drugs per shift; in addition, all the years of schooling (aside from a few calculations) are long forgotten as many retail pharmacists (or pharm techs) are turning into store cashiers. As an aspiring pharmacist, this troubles me. For this reason, if I choose to become a pharmacist, I really feel I would want to do a residency after school to gain entry as some specialization pharmacist in a hospital. Yes, people choose careers for various reasons (and I wrote on this not too long ago), but for me, certainly at this point, if I were to do this job where I'm rushed and my job threatened because of slow 'dispensing', then I would prefer another career like nursing or physician. In fact, I'm highly considering medicine now. If it doesn't work out, then we'll see. While nursing is a great career, too, the money is yet to be as competitive as that of a physician, despite the unbelievably great work they do. A while back, I thought of this possibility, hence my handle: DO Pharm MD

If I proceed with this idea, then I will apply to both D.O. and M.D. schools. I am slowly losing heart with the profession; a profession that do have the brightest of minds, yet that are reduced to 'possible' cashiers of a powerful drug store. What I'm about to share with you has a little bit to do with my likely decision of trying for medicine. I, as well as (highly motivated) Lasagnaboy want a health related career where we are making (an obvious) contribution to society. There are good and bad professionals everywhere. In the video I'm about to share with you, as you'll see, it is quite rare to make positive difference in the lives of sick people that are truly at a pharmacist's mercy... or else. Good luck with your decisions. If I proceed with a pharmacy career, believe me, I'll strive to be the best pharmacist I can be. I'll also make sure that I stay as far away from retail! (SDN1977, a knowledgeable retail pharmacist, will perhaps dissagree) Like they say, someone's gotta do it.

P.S. I hope not to appear arrogant, but any legitimate aspiring professional should ponder on this and hopefully in the future, do something to change it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2997449

I suggest you speak to a Nurse, MD, Clinical Pharmacist, and/or any other professional in the working force today prior to making any decisions. I think you may be surprised to know that the rush society we live in today does not end at retail pharmacy..oh yes..rushing actually happens in every aspect of healthcare today. In a broader sense, rushing or doing as much as humanly or maybe even sometimes inhumanly possible is prevalent in other professional careers too.

In short, I don't disagree with you, but don't paint with such a narrow brush.
 
I personally do not find retail appealing but there are so many other options that it didn't stop me from applying to and getting accepted to pharmacy school. The problem with thinking MD/DOs don't have members that fall into the same boat would be naive. Ask most people that visit the doctor's office. the doctor walks in and out in a short time. It is like a factory in that situation. A primary physician for the most part treats a handful of common problems and ships the rest off to a specialist.

and like any field, what you don't use will start to slip away. The same is for physicians.

oh and I think a pharmcist makes more of a positive difference than passing out pills as a retail pharmacist. For example a woman I work with has a friend that caught a protoza infection in Africa. The doctor gave her the perscription and when the pharmacist did the calculations, the doctor gave a dose high enough to kill the woman. I don't see that as anything less than making a huge difference.
 
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I suggest you speak to a Nurse, MD, Clinical Pharmacist, and/or any other professional in the working force today prior to making any decisions. I think you may be surprised to know that the rush society we live in today does not end at retail pharmacy..oh yes..rushing actually happens in every aspect of healthcare today. In a broader sense, rushing or doing as much as humanly or maybe even sometimes inhumanly possible is prevalent in other professional careers too.

In short, I don't disagree with you, but don't paint with such a narrow brush.


I agree. Many physicians are rushed to see as many patients a day, so their office can make money. In every health profession you will feel some sort of urgency to see more and more patients. It's not just pharmacists that are feeling rushed. Plus I spoke with my brother in law about this who is graduating from pharmacy school right now, and has been working in a retail pharmacy as a tech and he says he's never heard of any type of quota they have to meet every day. It may be different for every retail pharmacy, but thats what he told me.
 
Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever.

Clearly, I admit that mistakes abound everywhere. It's just that the retail pharmacy job just does not appeal to me. Having said that, might you do a residency? I know there are so many options in pharmacy. Again, I DO like pharmacy, just not retail.
 
Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever.

Clearly, I admit that mistakes abound everywhere. It's just that the retail pharmacy job just does not appeal to me. Having said that, might you do a residency? I know there are so many options in pharmacy. Again, I DO like pharmacy, just not retail.

I hear ya. I personally find clinical pharmacy more appealing. 😍
 
Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever. But when the pressure to rush medications a la fast food style, this is why I HATE retail pharmacy. In the case of Wall Greens (and many others), one is pressured to dispense at a rate of 300 drugs per shift; in addition, all the years of schooling (aside from a few calculations) are long forgotten as many retail pharmacists (or pharm techs) are turning into store cashiers. As an aspiring pharmacist, this troubles me. For this reason, if I choose to become a pharmacist, I really feel I would want to do a residency after school to gain entry as some specialization pharmacist in a hospital. Yes, people choose careers for various reasons (and I wrote on this not too long ago), but for me, certainly at this point, if I were to do this job where I'm rushed and my job threatened because of slow 'dispensing', then I would prefer another career like nursing or physician. In fact, I'm highly considering medicine now. If it doesn't work out, then we'll see. While nursing is a great career, too, the money is yet to be as competitive as that of a physician, despite the unbelievably great work they do. A while back, I thought of this possibility, hence my handle: DO Pharm MD

If I proceed with this idea, then I will apply to both D.O. and M.D. schools. I am slowly losing heart with the profession; a profession that do have the brightest of minds, yet that are reduced to 'possible' cashiers of a powerful drug store. What I'm about to share with you has a little bit to do with my likely decision of trying for medicine. I, as well as (highly motivated) Lasagnaboy want a health related career where we are making (an obvious) contribution to society. There are good and bad professionals everywhere. In the video I'm about to share with you, as you'll see, it is quite rare to make positive difference in the lives of sick people that are truly at a pharmacist's mercy... or else. Good luck with your decisions. If I proceed with a pharmacy career, believe me, I'll strive to be the best pharmacist I can be. I'll also make sure that I stay as far away from retail! (SDN1977, a knowledgeable retail pharmacist, will perhaps dissagree) Like they say, someone's gotta do it.

P.S. I hope not to appear arrogant, but any legitimate aspiring professional should ponder on this and hopefully in the future, do something to change it.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2997449

I agree with you that retail pharmacy has some negative aspects, but it doesn't mean hospital pharmacy doesn't. Or medicine or nursing. I think pharmacists including retail pharmacists make important contributions to society such as making sure doctors don't kill their patients with wrong drug doses. 🙂 I think you should consider hospital pharmacy if you want to use your clinical skills. Definitely do a residency in that case.

P.S. I don't like making personal comments, but after reading all of Lasagnaboy's posts, I would say he is highly misguided in addition to being highly motivated. And if you have read more of SDN1977's posts, you will realize she is in both hospital and retail, and she has a ton of experience in the hospital. Just want to get the facts right.
 
Any professional will tell you of a particular time they could have done something better. When it comes to a healthcare career, professionals have a responsibility to take extreme measures to prevent any errors whatsoever.

Clearly, I admit that mistakes abound everywhere. It's just that the retail pharmacy job just does not appeal to me. Having said that, might you do a residency? I know there are so many options in pharmacy. Again, I DO like pharmacy, just not retail.

No problem - don't do retail. I don't & won't do a peds hospital - but that hasn't kept me from being a hospital pharmacist for >25 yrs. I actually decided to pursue retail on a part-time basis because I had less clinical interaction with patients in my hospital setting than I did 20 years ago. So, currently, I'm in a clinical setting, but in 2 different places. But - I'll never, ever work a peds hospital - I've chosen the setting I just won't do & that is not a problem for my peds colleagues.

But...there is a significant difference in being a physician, dentist or pharmacist - I know because I have all 3 in my family. I could no more tolerate my husband's field (dentistry) than he could mine. Likewise, my daughter has absolutely no interest in pharmacy and she is in medicine - which I chose decades ago to not pursue because it didn't hold my interest.

So.....whatever you decide is all good - good for you. If pharmacy is your choice - many of us can help you. I can talk about the negatives of retail, which I've done part-time for awhile & hospital which I've done since I graduated. Both have their negatives, but both have their positives as well - which is why I'm doing what I'm doing - both!

There are wonderful retail environments - I'm in one. Likewise, there are horrible hospital environments - I quit one (& oddly enough - Kaiser was well known when I graduated as a "factory" hospital - so I can attest to things being able to change since they are now a leader in inpt & outpt clinical activities of pharmacists).

The key is - find the kind of work which is intellectually stimulating to YOU because you'll have this career a long, long time. Additionally, the rest of your life might make it difficult to make a change, altho there are many who do & I praise them & their families for the difficult road they choose.

Best of luck in whichever path you choose to follow & if any of them pan out for you, I'll be pleased to be a colleague.
 
Sdn1977

Your many answers to many posts are so diplomatically correct! I have read many of your posts and have found them to be really helpful. I was quite aware that you did hospital pharmacy most of your career... I was only referring to the fact that you also have extensive retail pharmacy. What do you think of the video link? It is amazing how crucial the job of a pharmacist is. If someone was clueless as to what they do, it is evident that if extreme care is taken, a pharmacist's extensive knowledge WILL save lives. Of course, the video did not mention how many lives were saved because of pharmacists' intervention due to doctors errors. I respect your intelligence;I was really more interested in knowing what current pharmacist are thinking due to this bad publicity, which by the way was really geared toward bad pharmacy techs. As usual, SDN1977, thank you for contributing.
 
Sdn1977

Your many answers to many posts are so diplomatically correct! I have read many of your posts and have found them to be really helpful. I was quite aware that you did hospital pharmacy most of your career... I was only referring to the fact that you also have extensive retail pharmacy. What do you think of the video link? It is amazing how crucial the job of a pharmacist is. If someone was clueless as to what they do, it is evident that if extreme care is taken, a pharmacist's extensive knowledge WILL save lives. Of course, the video did not mention how many lives were saved because of pharmacists' intervention due to doctors errors. I respect your intelligence;I was really more interested in knowing what current pharmacist are thinking due to this bad publicity, which by the way was really geared toward bad pharmacy techs. As usual, SDN1977, thank you for contributing.

You might want to read my posts on the pharmacy forum which directly relate to this 20/20 episode. I was not at all diplomatic!

I will stick my neck out here & say that pharmcists are, often times, sheep when it comes to being told what to do. They are not assertive in what they direct their technicians to do or not do, they allow overstaffing without saying anything & they allow themselves to be put in situations which are untenable.

There are some of us who speak up & if the situation does not change, we quit. That does not solve the situation in that particular pharmacy, but it doesn't put us in the situation these pharmacists are in.

I would caution all those folks who are technicians....who work & are trying to be admitted to pharmacy school - do not do anything which might compromise your goal. The "company" does not own you nor will you be penalized for knowing your limits.

The issue here is - too few technicians know their limitis and too few pharmacists choose to exercise their authority.

However..if we put it in perspective of your other career choices....this is not an issue which is exclusive to pharmacy within healthcare. Medicine does have its own issues. None of us are without mistake, but most of us choose to take our time to lessen the chance.
 
if i may ask...what do you feel are the advantages and disadvantages of working in clinical settings from your experience as opposed to retail?

Thanks for your input...still considering if retail is right for me..🙂
 
Pick your poison.

Hate the grouchy general public? Let me introduce you to the grouchy nurses.

Hate counting pills? Let me introduce you to typing in orders for 6 hours at a time.

Think physicians belittle you in retail? Wait until you get into a hospital. They have all the power there....at least you can hang up on them in retail.

Hate weird retail shifts? Wait until you see the shifts in the hospital. At least in retail they get Thanksgiving and Xmas off.

Unless you are in the roughly 5% of folks that wind up in a primarily consultant role (oh so rare), you'll be doing boring monotonous tasks and be under appreciated wherever you go.

You know what I think is probably the best place to go? Nuclear Pharmacy. The best of every world. Physicians can't even relate to what you do, if they try to belittle you, you can start talking about weird chemical assays and crap and belittle THEM. No general public or bitchy nurses. Great hours, M-F. Pay is competitive. It sounds cool. "I'm a nuclear pharmacist." Viddy nice. I'm seriously thinking about pursuing it.
 
I think this ABC report is nothing but good for the profession of pharmacy.............present day chain pharmacy is terrible for the profession. Hopefully, this will be a wakeup call to the dupes with MBA's running chain pharmacy corporations that the public and the profession will not stand for something as important as drug dispensing to be lowered to the level of a fast food restaurant.

Pharmacies should be held to the standards of hospitals in terms of whose running these companies. Would you expect a person with a MBA to be running a hospital? No, an MD is probably running. Walgreens/CVS/Eckerds, etc. are corporations that profit off the administration of healthcare. The government needs to step in and administer standards. B.S. Pharm and PharmD's should be calling the shots, not some ignorant money gunning businessman who has no clue how healthcare should work.

I really hope these reports open up some eyes.
 
I think this ABC report is nothing but good for the profession of pharmacy.............present day chain pharmacy is terrible for the profession. Hopefully, this will be a wakeup call to the dupes with MBA's running chain pharmacy corporations that the public and the profession will not stand for something as important as drug dispensing to be lowered to the level of a fast food restaurant.

Pharmacies should be held to the standards of hospitals in terms of whose running these companies. Would you expect a person with a MBA to be running a hospital? No, an MD is probably running. Walgreens/CVS/Eckerds, etc. are corporations that profit off the administration of healthcare. The government needs to step in and administer standards. B.S. Pharm and PharmD's should be calling the shots, not some ignorant money gunning businessman who has no clue how healthcare should work.

I really hope these reports open up some eyes.

You gotta be careful of what you say....I've worked at 2 hospitals in SF and 2 south of SF - none have their chief executive officers as MD's. They've all been MHA's or MBA's.

Walgreen's CEO is a pharmacist who graduated from the University of Arizona in 1980 - Jeff Rein, I think.

CVS's CEO is Thomas Ryan - again, a pharmacist who graduated from the University of Rhode Island in 1975. This guy actually donated a significant amount of money to the school & has a chair named after him I believe.

I'm not sure about Eckerd - that is not in my area, but I think after it merged with JC Penney Co they brought in a non-pharmacist to be CEO.
 
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if i may ask...what do you feel are the advantages and disadvantages of working in clinical settings from your experience as opposed to retail?

Thanks for your input...still considering if retail is right for me..🙂

I'll come back tomorrow & try to give you my opinion as complete as I can. But, tonight - its too late😉 .

Oh...btw...while you wait - clinical does not equal inpatient (or hospital).

Clinical is what we do everyday no matter where we work.

My own personal pharmacy pet peeve:meanie: :meanie: 😀
 
You gotta be careful of what you say....I've worked at 2 hospitals in SF and 2 south of SF - none have their chief executive officers as MD's. They've all been MHA's or MBA's.

Walgreen's CEO is a pharmacist who graduated from the University of Arizona in 1980 - Jeff Rein, I think.

CVS's CEO is Thomas Ryan - again, a pharmacist who graduated from the University of Rhode Island in 1975. This guy actually donated a significant amount of money to the school & has a chair named after him I believe.

I'm not sure about Eckerd - that is not in my area, but I think after it merged with JC Penney Co they brought in a non-pharmacist to be CEO.


Eckerd was sold off by JC Penney Co. CVS bought part and the other part was bought from a canadian company. at least that is the part I know about.
 
After watching most of the video, I'm a little short on time this morning, so I haven't read to see if someone else already said something along these lines.

I don't have any official experience in community or hospital - I've shadowed community pharmacists at Walgreens. It looked very demanding, but the pharmacist did take a number of precautions to ensure that they didn't make mistakes like using the magnifying glass to compare the pill to the image of the pill on the screen, verifying the scanned copy of the rx, etc. Sometimes, this is just not enough.

I can not imagine the pain of knowing that I was involved in a dispensing error that maimed someone, whether it is one myself, one of my pharmacy techs (someday), or one of my partners (someday) making the error. But I do know this - consumers always want the impossible. It seems to me that consumers want personalized service at a fast food pace... You just can't have both. This reminds me of living in SoCal in early 1990's when dominos guaranteed pizza delivery in under 30 minutes and HS kids were killing themselves in traffic accidents trying to get the pizza delivered on time. People complain about drug prices soaring without considering the cost of R&D - again you can't have specialized drugs at inexpensive prices.

There's no doubt in my mind that large retail drug store chains are interested in the money. Safety is one of the most important aspects of medicine/pharmacy and of course people need to be held accountable for their mistakes. However, with respect to pharmacy staffing, what would consumers and mass media like the industry to do? Have 3 PharmD's working per shift at a rate of 90-120K/year each? And people complain about drug pricing now...
 
if i may ask...what do you feel are the advantages and disadvantages of working in clinical settings from your experience as opposed to retail?

Thanks for your input...still considering if retail is right for me..🙂

Ok - I'm back🙂 You may be sorry you asked me this question!!!😛

So...what are the advantages & disadvantages of working in an inpatient facility - that is what I perceive your question to really be - forgive me if I'm wrong. I'll give you some & others will chime in I'm sure on things I've misrepresented or left out. My experience is only my own - there are as many different inpt, acute settings as there are hospitals.

For an inpatient, acute care facility, there is nothing if not energy, stimulation, the feeling as though you are continually needed - which you are. The experiences range from the acuteness and intensity of the ICU to the frustration and wonder of the mental health unit. There are some places where oncology is large (mine is not, thankfully) and others that are a tertiary pedi faciilty. If you've never been in a hospital, either as a patient or with a family member, you may not be aware that these are really, really sick people (except the normal, uncomplicated OB/newborn). We used to keep people in the hospital for a week to 10 days & when I first started, we'd keep them routinely for 1-2 weeks. Now, if a pt is in for that long, that person is very, very sick. So, you see & participate in the aspects of caring for that person which involve some of the most complicated types of drug therapy. You must be very, very knowledgable in whatever area you work (which is why we don't cross over to specialities we aren't familiar with, for the most part). I would say, the absolute best part is the intellectual stimulation you get. You also get to know your prescribers, the nurses, therapists, etc very well....so you see them in a different light - and they, you. Depending on the culture within the hospital and your department, there are lots of avenues of interest you may follow or which are open to you.

The pharmacy dept within a hospital is large - both in budget and manpower (Zpak can speak to this better than I can). So, you must be good at working with a lot of people. You cannot be fussy about only working with this tech or that pharmacist - you work with everyone - period. You must also be flexible in working in the different areas you're capable of working, even though you have your favorites.

So...now to the disadvantages. There is no way we will ever get around the dispensing aspect of our job. We are there for a product as well as knowledge - this is where some people fall out. If it were knowledge alone,, they'd call us all Micromedex since everything we know can be found somewhere - we're just very, very good with having it all at hand & being able to rapidly put it all in perspective. But, the product must get from the pharmacy to the pt. That in some way will involve a pharmacist. It may be that it is you at order entry, or some pharmacists still check drugs as they're sent to units, IV's must be checked, some IV's will be prepared by pharmacists in some areas. But, it may be your part of dispensing will be the development of protocols for a particular kind of therapy - tpn or anticoagulation or chemotherapy emesis or the periodic alteration or inservicing of these protocols. Likewise, your part of the dispensing process might be your input in hospital committees such as P&T (pharmacy & therapeutics) - which is where forumulary decisions are made, M&M (morbidity & mortality) - which is where cases are reviewed which have caused morbidity or death, or just unit specific - drug education for mental health patients prior to discharge, etc....

So...we are tied to the product - always. I don't see this as a negative, but some do. A huge negative is the staffing/scheduling aspect of acute medicine. Hospitals are open 24/7/365. A pharmacist will be expected to be there at least 2/3 of the time & in many circumstances all the time. If a pharmacist is not there, someone is on call. That means - someone works Christmas Day, Christmas Eve, Yom Kippur, Fourth of July, your son's birthday, your anniversary, the day your dad is buried - every single day. Someone has to be there. You cannot & will not have each & every holiday off. You will be expected to trade & do your part. There are times you feel you must beg, borrow & steal to get a particular day off. It will wear you down, but I've always kept saying to myself - I'm on this side of the sheet so I'm better off than that guy....which led me to make my Christmas Day working the absolute best day I could - for myself, the pts I had to take care of & their families - because none of us wanted to be there if there was any other way.

Staffing is bad in hospitals too. Many folks don't know this & think only commercial corporations can take advantage of you. Think again - nonprofits (hospitals) can & do this as well. I actually quit a job I held for 20 years over staffing. I was put in a position in which I felt my decision making capabilities were being taxed and frankly, I did not want to end my career with a malpractice mistake due to overwork. Now - it took me 3 years to get to that point....so I didn't go there lightly.

Finally, hospital pharmacy has a very repetitieve component to it. The first CABG orders you enter will be exciting and so will the 10th & the 20th. But, by the time you've entered the same orders for the 300th CABG pt - yeah - the uncomplicated ones are all the same. The techs mix the same IVs over and over and over & you must check those same IVs. There are times when things get a bit exciting - you'll get a tpa & need to get the drip calculated & mixed...but, the routine is always there. In fact, the routineness & repetitiveness of hospital pharmacy is one of the major reasons for drug errors by pharmcy personnel.

Now, I know I said finally, but I've got one last thing (at least for now) to add. One reason I chose to change my focus from primarily inpt to do both is the lack of patient interaction. When I started in pharmacy, decades ago, pharmacists counseled patients on their discharge medications. This meant, we not only help start & stabilize the pt (lets say on warfarin) while an inpt, we also counseled that pt & the family on taking warfarin at home. Today, there is no time for that to happen. Pts go home too fast. The hospital does not fill the discharge medications - the pts family takes it to their local pharmacist to be filled. If you've ever been discharged from a hospital or has had a family member who has - you know its normally a family member who gets the rx filled & we don't counsel the family or friend on the drug - its a HIPAA violation. But - the pt hurts, is tired & just wants to get home to his/her own bed so the counseling just doesn't happen. A big, big mistake in our field, IMO>

This is where some of these errors can happen & I can see why. Take the two examples on 20/20 - the diabetic medication filled in place of phenobarbital for the child & the error of the warfarin strength. We don't know the details, but one tremendous aspect was missing in both cases - the pharmacist who can see the inpt record is not the pharmacist who fills the outpt rx. Had that been me 20 years ago...I could have seen on the inpt record that woman's last dose of warfarin was not as high as was apparently written or typed. That's not to say these errors would not have happened anyway. But, this is a big area that in our healthcare system we have a huge gap - that seamless transfer of knowledge. Our Canadian counterparts are far ahead of us in this game.

Ok...enough for now....I'll come back & tell you the advantages & disadvantages of outpatient (& another pet peeve - outpt does not always = retail:meanie: :meanie: ).

Caverject is really, really going to come down hard on me, I just know it!🙄
 
Pick your poison.

Hate the grouchy general public? Let me introduce you to the grouchy nurses.

Hate counting pills? Let me introduce you to typing in orders for 6 hours at a time.

Think physicians belittle you in retail? Wait until you get into a hospital. They have all the power there....at least you can hang up on them in retail.

Hate weird retail shifts? Wait until you see the shifts in the hospital. At least in retail they get Thanksgiving and Xmas off.

Unless you are in the roughly 5% of folks that wind up in a primarily consultant role (oh so rare), you'll be doing boring monotonous tasks and be under appreciated wherever you go.

You know what I think is probably the best place to go? Nuclear Pharmacy. The best of every world. Physicians can't even relate to what you do, if they try to belittle you, you can start talking about weird chemical assays and crap and belittle THEM. No general public or bitchy nurses. Great hours, M-F. Pay is competitive. It sounds cool. "I'm a nuclear pharmacist." Viddy nice. I'm seriously thinking about pursuing it.

Nuclear Pharmacy sounds great . . . but how is the job market? It doesn't seem like there would be too many job openings.
 
SDN, I completely agree with what you said about discharged patients not being counseled. It's a disaster waiting to happen. I recently had a tonsillectomy and was sent home with a prescription for Lortab. It's a good think I know that this medication has tylenol in it, and that it's pretty easy to OD on tylenol when you want the pain to stop (esp. since Lortab is a liquid). My aunt filled the prescription, so I was not counseled at all. Even my doctor failed to mention it. 😡