Is the DO I'm shadowing misrepresenting his credentials?

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DO is nowhere to be found on his white coat, signature, and even a google search of him has half the sites coming up as "MD" or just Dr. XYZ (I think some of those sites are just randomly generated though, they mislabel some DOs as MDs)

Outside his office it says:
Dr. XYZ
Medical Doctor, Orthopedics
Licensed in Orthopedics by the Board of.....something like that, you get the point

He has a biography and portrait of himself on the wall (LOL he's kind of narcissistic) that omits every detail of his DO identity. "Dr. XYZ received his medical degree from a prestigious medical school in ______." (its a city I wont share. I'm protecting his confidentiality!)

So today, after a month of shadowing this doctor, a patient asked him "Are you the MD?" (which was the MOST stupid question I had heard in my time at that clinic, because why else would he wear a white coat that says Dr. in a surgical setting lol)

He said "I'm the medical doctor and the surgeon"

Patients like "I saw D.O. on your healthgrades. what does that mean?"

He said "I'm a licensed medical doctor specializing in orthopedics"




Is this DO doing something wrong? Its not technically "dishonest" I think, but I'd say its in a gray area. technically, DO is a "medical doctor" and can use that phrase right? A DO just cant use the legal title of M.D. because it implies the "doctor of medicine" degree was earned right?
 
tuco's revenge said:
DO is nowhere to be found on his white coat, signature, and even a google search of him has half the sites coming up as "MD" or just Dr. XYZ (I think some of those sites are just randomly generated though, they mislabel some DOs as MDs)

Outside his office it says:
Dr. XYZ
Medical Doctor, Orthopedics
Licensed in Orthopedics by the Board of.....something like that, you get the point

He has a biography and portrait of himself on the wall (LOL he's kind of narcissistic) that omits every detail of his DO identity. "Dr. XYZ received his medical degree from a prestigious medical school in ______." (its a city I wont share. I'm protecting his confidentiality!)

So today, after a month of shadowing this doctor, a patient asked him "Are you the MD?" (which was the MOST stupid question I had heard in my time at that clinic, because why else would he wear a white coat that says Dr. in a surgical setting lol)

He said "I'm the medical doctor and the surgeon"

Patients like "I saw D.O. on your healthgrades. what does that mean?"

He said "I'm a licensed medical doctor specializing in orthopedics"




Is this DO doing something wrong? Its not technically "dishonest" I think, but I'd say its in a gray area. technically, DO is a "medical doctor" and can use that phrase right? A DO just cant use the legal title of M.D. because it implies the "doctor of medicine" degree was earned right?
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It sounded honest to me. He's a licensed medical doctor specializing in orthopedics and is a surgeon. It's not a lie if he actually got the degree and is board certified 🙂 What would be your best answer if you were in his position?
 
Wiggly Tuff Da Ruff said:
It sounded honest to me. He's a licensed medical doctor specializing in orthopedics and is a surgeon. It's not a lie if he actually got the degree and is board certified 🙂 What would be your best answer if you were in his position?
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I would assume that he is obligated to tell the patient "No, I am not an MD. I am a DO" but you're right. He's a medical doctor and he's not lying.

But I read that a while ago a DO got in legal trouble for claiming to be an MD. He was warned that DOs can't legally claim to be MDs. I think this surgeon is just one small step short of making that claim to his patients.

Although it truthfully doesn't make a difference because he is functionally an MD, but technically he doesn't have the title he's leading his patients to believe.

Personally, I would be proud to have either degree designation after my name
 
Pretty much all of this is correct, since it is a very grey area. It seems that he is determined to avoid any sort of conversation about osteopathic medicine, which is unfortunate. Misrepresentation, probably not. Misleading, certainly so. I think that how he answers these questions/represents himself is getting into the realm of semantics, but oh well. Yes he's a board certified physician, he just wishes he went to SUNY instead of NYIT or whatever (substitute any two geographically proximal DO/MD schools). He's one of those self-hatin' DO's!
 
Sorry, I think I misinterpreted the last part of your post. If he answered the patient that being a DO means he's a medical doctor specializing in orthopedics, that's probably where I would say he crossed the line into flat out lying.
 
Mad Jack said:
That chip on his shoulders must be real heavy. He's lying by omission, but it isn't a crime to do so.
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But, in Florida a healthcare professional must identify themselves by the profession that they are licensed under. In the case of DOs, we must describe ourselves as DOs or osteopathic physicians.

As far as the websites that rate physicians, they often do not distinguish MD from DO. It is not the physicians fault.
 
JoeUSA said:
But, in Florida a healthcare professional must identify themselves by the profession that they are licensed under. In the case of DOs, we must describe ourselves as DOs or osteopathic physicians.

As far as the websites that rate physicians, they often do not distinguish MD from DO. It is not the physicians fault.
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The world isn't Florida. In most states you are required to provide credentials only upon patient request.
 
tuco's revenge said:
I would assume that he is obligated to tell the patient "No, I am not an MD. I am a DO" but you're right. He's a medical doctor and he's not lying.

But I read that a while ago a DO got in legal trouble for claiming to be an MD. He was warned that DOs can't legally claim to be MDs. I think this surgeon is just one small step short of making that claim to his patients.

Although it truthfully doesn't make a difference because he is functionally an MD, but technically he doesn't have the title he's leading his patients to believe.

Personally, I would be proud to have either degree designation after my name
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He didn't say anything wrong. It honestly just sounds like he didn't want to go through the whole spiel of:

D: "I'm a DO. It's like an MD, but I went to a different kind of medical school"

P: "so your like a nurse or something?"

D: "no, I am a fully licensed physician"

P: "so you went to a Mexican medical school?"

D: "no, I went to medical school in the US..."

P: "Oh, I see. So your like Dr. XYZ's assistant or something. Would you tell him that I'm ready for my appointment dear?"


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ATPsynthase123 said:
He didn't say anything wrong. It honestly just sounds like he didn't want to go through the whole spiel of:

D: "I'm a DO. It's like an MD, but I went to a different kind of medical school"

P: "so your like a nurse or something?"

D: "no, I am a fully licensed physician"

P: "so you went to a Mexican medical school?"

D: "no, I went to medical school in the US..."

P: "Oh, I see. So your like Dr. XYZ's assistant or something. Would you tell him that I'm ready for my appointment dear?"


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I feel like this could be avoided by knowing how to explain your D.O. title to your patients.
 
JoeUSA said:
But, in Florida a healthcare professional must identify themselves by the profession that they are licensed under. In the case of DOs, we must describe ourselves as DOs or osteopathic physicians.

As far as the websites that rate physicians, they often do not distinguish MD from DO. It is not the physicians fault.
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If this were true are MDs required to say that they are allopathic physicians.
 
In 1000+ hours of working with doctors interacting with patients, and 100+ hours of shadowing, I've never witnessed one patient ask the DO what are those initials behind your name. The physician usually introduced themselves as Dr. John/Jane Doe and the rest goes on.
 
Ateleryx said:
I feel like this could be avoided by knowing how to explain your D.O. title to your patients.
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That's the problem though, even if you explain the DO degree perfectly, a layman will have no idea of the difference or significance of the separate degrees.


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ATPsynthase123 said:
That's the problem though, even if you explain the DO degree perfectly, a layman will have no idea of the difference or significance of the separate degrees.


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So you keep it simple. This is an example of an interaction I've heard, and is more or less how I explain it to friends who ask me about it - and unless they're super interested in the details (which is usually not the case) they seem to understand and be content with the short answer.

->Pt: "So what does D.O. mean? Are you the doctor?"
->Physician: "D.O. means I'm a physician just like an M.D. but with extra training in an additional, more hands-on method of examination to use if necessary."
->Pt: "Neato."
 
In some state Medical Doctors and Doctors of Osteopathic medicine are licensed in the same manner. When doing the verification they would obviously use the references of schools and training listed by the healthcare professional. I feel the best way to answer is I am Dr. XYZ, both M.D. and D.O. are doctors. If a further explanation is needed the doctor should have a simple answer that a patient could understand. The D.O. should be proud of his/her accomplishments and degree.
 
Favoritefarm said:
It sounds like he may be embarrased and is trying to hide DO?

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I doubt that. He's firstly an orthopod now and secondly a DO. I'm sure he doesn't want to deal with it. Many DOs I've talked to said they identify with their specialty first and their degree second. They only ever talk about Osteopathic medicine if asked directly what a DO is.
 
It's the narcissism at work. Narcissists are extremely sensitive to nuances of status and any whiff of humiliation. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy punishes the patient who asked and possibly even anyone in the room who witnessed it.
 
DokterMom said:
It's the narcissism at work. Narcissists are extremely sensitive to nuances of status and any whiff of humiliation. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy punishes the patient who asked and possibly even anyone in the room who witnessed it.
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A narcissistic surgeon?
raw
 
tuco's revenge said:
DO is nowhere to be found on his white coat, signature, and even a google search of him has half the sites coming up as "MD" or just Dr. XYZ (I think some of those sites are just randomly generated though, they mislabel some DOs as MDs)

Outside his office it says:
Dr. XYZ
Medical Doctor, Orthopedics
Licensed in Orthopedics by the Board of.....something like that, you get the point

He has a biography and portrait of himself on the wall (LOL he's kind of narcissistic) that omits every detail of his DO identity. "Dr. XYZ received his medical degree from a prestigious medical school in ______." (its a city I wont share. I'm protecting his confidentiality!)

So today, after a month of shadowing this doctor, a patient asked him "Are you the MD?" (which was the MOST stupid question I had heard in my time at that clinic, because why else would he wear a white coat that says Dr. in a surgical setting lol)

He said "I'm the medical doctor and the surgeon"

Patients like "I saw D.O. on your healthgrades. what does that mean?"

He said "I'm a licensed medical doctor specializing in orthopedics"




Is this DO doing something wrong? Its not technically "dishonest" I think, but I'd say its in a gray area. technically, DO is a "medical doctor" and can use that phrase right? A DO just cant use the legal title of M.D. because it implies the "doctor of medicine" degree was earned right?
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I personally think this guy is a MD wannabe who could not make the cut and opted for DO school. He must be embarrassed by that fact so he is playing the error by omission game. ...If you are a DO student own your degree and be proud of it, don't act like this guy.
 
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ATPsynthase123 said:
That's the problem though, even if you explain the DO degree perfectly, a layman will have no idea of the difference or significance of the separate degrees.
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This is true in many cases, unfortunately. The fact of the matter is that the MD title has been held much longer than the DO title, and it is a more recognized longstanding institution. People equate physician with MD. That's just the way it is. We'll likely see that change significantly in our lifetime, but as of now it stands. For instance, Lt. Commander Richard Jadick is a D.O. (and has a fascinating book on battlefield medicine), is the most decorated physician in the Iraq War, and the only one to receive a Bronze Star with a Combat V. The biggest article written about him is from Newsweek, and is titled "Hero, M.D.". Such is the struggle.
 
I'll go one step forward and say he doesn't even have to be Board certified to claim that..in orthopedics, that is. Last time I checked (recheck me if I'm wrong), a physician is not required to be board certified to be a surgeon. Probably every hospital requires it to practice under their roof, but it wouldn't stop a private practice.
 
First of all, he's an ortho doc, meaning that he makes the assumption that all pts are ignorant *****s until proven otherwise. I actually agree with this assumption since it applies to 70-80% of the pt population. His time is valuable and should be used to treat pts instead of defending his credentials to a pt. If the pt is so curious, he/she can look up the differences between MDs and DOs. In conclusion, I don't see a problem with his lines in response to the pt quest.
 
68PGunner said:
First of all, he's an ortho doc, meaning that he makes the assumption that all pts are ignorant *****s until proven otherwise. I actually agree with this assumption since it applies to 70-80% of the pt population. His time is valuable and should be used to treat pts instead of defending his credentials to a pt. If the pt is so curious, he/she can look up the differences between MDs and DOs. In conclusion, I don't see a problem with his lines in response to the pt quest.
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Its kinda the "price" you pay for going DO though. You take the easier way into medicine at one of the bottlenecks of medicine... which is entry to medical school ... and in return you have to pay the price throughout your career... the price of the defending your degree to the publics sometimes negative perception ... you cant just ignore it. If you didnt want to deal with it you shouldnt have gone DO.

It is pretty black and white. If you do it, go all out and explain what DO is when faced with the opportunity. Being evasive or not forthcoming, regardless of if you are "technically" lieing just reinforces what some of the public may think of DO.

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Favoritefarm said:
Its kinda the "price" you pay for going DO though. You take the easier way into medicine at one of the bottlenecks of medicine... which is entry to medical school ... and in return you have to pay the price throughout your career... the price of the defending your degree to the publics sometimes negative perception ... you cant just ignore it. If you didnt want to deal with it you shouldnt have gone DO.

It is pretty black and white. If you do it, go all out and explain what DO is when faced with the opportunity. Being evasive or not forthcoming, regardless of if you are "technically" lieing just reinforces what some of the public may think of DO.

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Most people learn from watching Hollywood produced medical shows. It's not like they are going to make a medical show staring a DO, even though they could. Explaining to patients can sometimes be a waste of breath. I told two waitresses that I have known for years about my medical school interview and one heard "medical assistant" and the other heard "nursing". I just don't bother correcting them because I can see that confused look in their eyes. If I said MD interview, then it would just click, because of Hollywood.
I can't watch a movie involving military uniforms without my two Army brothers going off on how wrong the uniforms are or the berets being folded like a Frenchmen. I just let it slide.
 
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Favoritefarm said:
Its kinda the "price" you pay for going DO though. You take the easier way into medicine at one of the bottlenecks of medicine... which is entry to medical school ... and in return you have to pay the price throughout your career... the price of the defending your degree to the publics sometimes negative perception ... you cant just ignore it. If you didnt want to deal with it you shouldnt have gone DO.

It is pretty black and white. If you do it, go all out and explain what DO is when faced with the opportunity. Being evasive or not forthcoming, regardless of if you are "technically" lieing just reinforces what some of the public may think of DO.

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And you wish that you're a cool orthopod like him, netting 500k+ gross a year. We know that you're a troll dude. STFU.

It's funny that you act like you're some hot stuff when you're just a keyboard warrior living at your mom's basement and still knocking out those premed prereqs.
 
CastleG8 said:
I can't watch a movie involving military uniforms without my two Army brothers going off on how wrong the uniforms are or the berets being folded like a Frenchmen. I just let it slide.
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Off topic, but they do that for good reason. Filmmakers are obligated to show improper insignia/uniforms, etc. due to federal laws regarding impersonating military personnel. But yes, the general public has no clue what DO means. But if you're not some sort of high-performing aesthetic plastic surgeon trying to market your private practice in LA, it probably doesn't matter.
 
68PGunner said:
And you wish that you're a cool orthopod like him, netting 500k+ gross a year. We know that you're a troll dude. STFU.

It's funny that you act like you're some hot stuff when you're just a keyboard warrior living at your mom's basement and still knocking out those premed prereqs.
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It's lit.
 
Favoritefarm said:
Its kinda the "price" you pay for going DO though. You take the easier way into medicine at one of the bottlenecks of medicine... which is entry to medical school ... and in return you have to pay the price throughout your career... the price of the defending your degree to the publics sometimes negative perception ... you cant just ignore it. If you didnt want to deal with it you shouldnt have gone DO.

It is pretty black and white. If you do it, go all out and explain what DO is when faced with the opportunity. Being evasive or not forthcoming, regardless of if you are "technically" lieing just reinforces what some of the public may think of DO.

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Gotta love the trolls who come out in the wee-hours...
 
68PGunner said:
And you wish that you're a cool orthopod like him, netting 500k+ gross a year. We know that you're a troll dude. STFU.

It's funny that you act like you're some hot stuff when you're just a keyboard warrior living at your mom's basement and still knocking out those premed prereqs.
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Lol. Ok. Clearly i struck a cord with you. Sounds like you may be a bit insecure and embarrased too.

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Favoritefarm said:
Lol. Ok. Clearly i struck a cord with you. Sounds like you may be a bit insecure and embarrased too.

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No you didn't.

It's pretty obvious that you're trying to derail this thread with your stupid DOs are inferior MDs argument. Based on your post history, you have done this multiple times already while bringing nothing to the discussion. I'm just calling out a keyboard warrior troll when I see one.

I'm pretty sure that the mentioned DO doesn't give a damn when he's bringing home 500K gross. There's also a DO anessiologist on this board who brings home 500K gross while his MD colleagues are whining about the job market. Real physicians, MDs and DOs, don't care much about the degree but rather their income and lifestyle. From your posts, it sounds like you're a premed troll.
 
...Reality check. DO's which make $500K are a definite outlier. Most of the MD's I work with every day do not make that.
 
Wjldenver said:
...Reality check. DO's which make $500K are a definite outlier. Most of the MD's I work with every day do not make that.
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500K is an outlier regardless of the title DO or MD. However, if that person is a DO, do you think he or she would care much about the title? On SDN, only premed noobs are hellbent on the title whereas the real physicians in the real world only care about job satisfaction, money, and lifestyle.
 
68PGunner said:
No you didn't.

It's pretty obvious that you're trying to derail this thread with your stupid DOs are inferior MDs argument. Based on your post history, you have done this multiple times already while bringing nothing to the discussion. I'm just calling out a keyboard warrior troll when I see one.

I'm pretty sure that the mentioned DO doesn't give a damn when he's bringing home 500K gross. There's also a DO anessiologist on this board who brings home 500K gross while his MD colleagues are whining about the job market. Real physicians, MDs and DOs, don't care much about the degree but rather their income and lifestyle. From your posts, it sounds like you're a premed troll.
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They just did it for the lulz
 
Wjldenver said:
DO's which make $500K are a definite outlier.
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Definitely an outlier for physicians as a whole, but not really an outlier for Ortho. Every ortho at the hospital I work at pulls this much gross easy.
 
Wjldenver said:
...Reality check. DO's which make $500K are a definite outlier. Most of the MD's I work with every day do not make that.
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There isn't a pay gap between MD and DO. Hospitals hire physicians, not specific degrees. I'll be honest and I am not trying to contradict you all by saying this, but $500k isn't an outlier by any means where I live. You just have to be in the right specialty.
 
Favoritefarm said:
Its kinda the "price" you pay for going DO though. You take the easier way into medicine at one of the bottlenecks of medicine... which is entry to medical school ... and in return you have to pay the price throughout your career... the price of the defending your degree to the publics sometimes negative perception ... you cant just ignore it. If you didnt want to deal with it you shouldnt have gone DO.

It is pretty black and white. If you do it, go all out and explain what DO is when faced with the opportunity. Being evasive or not forthcoming, regardless of if you are "technically" lieing just reinforces what some of the public may think of DO.

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Do you think I should drop out of my DO school, and apply for Caribbean MD instead? I am a second year student...Please respond, thanks!!
 
Ordinary DO...You are totally correct. There is no pay gap as a function of degree, just speciality.


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Promethean said:
You know, I actually am! How did you know?

Edit: Don't be sore just because your troll game is weak. I ain't saying don't troll, but give it a little effort. Everything worth doing is worth doing well.
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Since when is having an opinion considered trolling. Just because you dont like what someone has to say, doesnt make it trolling.

Would it really hurt your guys' bums if i told you im actually an MD orthopedic surgical resident at a top eastcoast program? Well sorry to break it to you. I am.

I have non surgical DO colleagues and some are excellent. Some are not. Just like MDs. However, it is a fact that DOs have a negative public perception, particularly more so in the medical community, that they need to fight against for the rest of their careers.

I understand the psychology of preDOs, DO med students, and DOs feeling like they need to "play down" this kind of rhetoric and to call people that speak the truth names,and label them as "haters" or "trolls" ... but it doesnt change the truth.

Nowhere did i say or imply MD is better than DO. All i am saying is there is a negative perception of the final DO product which is rooted in the fact that it is easier to get into DO schools than MD schools and most people, regardless of however you spin it in your mind, go to DO because they couldnt or know they cant get into an MD school.

The final product of a DO doc is not any better or worse. But that perception exists. You cant just hide from it.

If i were you, i would educate people to change that perception. Not just call people names. It does not further your cause.


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Favoritefarm said:
Since when is having an opinion considered trolling. Just because you dont like what someone has to say, doesnt make it trolling.

Would it really hurt your guys' bums if i told you im actually an MD orthopedic surgical resident at a top eastcoast program? Well sorry to break it to you. I am.

I have non surgical DO colleagues and some are excellent. Some are not. Just like MDs. However, it is a fact that DOs have a negative public perception, particularly more so in the medical community, that they need to fight against for the rest of their careers.

I understand the psychology of preDOs, DO med students, and DOs feeling like they need to "play down" this kind of rhetoric and to call people that speak the truth names,and label them as "haters" or "trolls" ... but it doesnt change the truth.

Nowhere did i say or imply MD is better than DO. All i am saying is there is a negative perception of the final DO product which is rooted in the fact that it is easier to get into DO schools than MD schools and most people, regardless of however you spin it in your mind, go to DO because they couldnt or know they cant get into an MD school.

The final product of a DO doc is not any better or worse. But that perception exists. You cant just hide from it.

If i were you, i would educate people to change that perception. Not just call people names. It does not further your cause.


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I'm not sure how you decided to take my words to heart, but I was not talking to you.

I was talking to the person who was asking if they should drop out of DO school to go to the Caribbean. That was a weak trolling attempt, which is to say that person was being insincere about their actual situation in order to get a rise out of people. Heck, it worked. Got a rise out of you and you weren't even being spoken to.

But it is behavior that is not suitable on this forum. When people assume insincere positions in order to provoke reactions, they detract from real conversation and debate. It is technically against the TOS, and I really ought to have hit "report" instead of calling them out. But I figure mods got better things to do with their time than to smack down every weak troll that tries to stir the pot.
 
Favoritefarm said:
Since when is having an opinion considered trolling. Just because you dont like what someone has to say, doesnt make it trolling.

Would it really hurt your guys' bums if i told you im actually an MD orthopedic surgical resident at a top eastcoast program? Well sorry to break it to you. I am.

I have non surgical DO colleagues and some are excellent. Some are not. Just like MDs. However, it is a fact that DOs have a negative public perception, particularly more so in the medical community, that they need to fight against for the rest of their careers.

I understand the psychology of preDOs, DO med students, and DOs feeling like they need to "play down" this kind of rhetoric and to call people that speak the truth names,and label them as "haters" or "trolls" ... but it doesnt change the truth.

Nowhere did i say or imply MD is better than DO. All i am saying is there is a negative perception of the final DO product which is rooted in the fact that it is easier to get into DO schools than MD schools and most people, regardless of however you spin it in your mind, go to DO because they couldnt or know they cant get into an MD school.

The final product of a DO doc is not any better or worse. But that perception exists. You cant just hide from it.

If i were you, i would educate people to change that perception. Not just call people names. It does not further your cause.


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Your posts do have some characteristics that some people might associate with orthopedic surgery...
 
Favoritefarm said:
Since when is having an opinion considered trolling. Just because you dont like what someone has to say, doesnt make it trolling.

Would it really hurt your guys' bums if i told you im actually an MD orthopedic surgical resident at a top eastcoast program? Well sorry to break it to you. I am.

I have non surgical DO colleagues and some are excellent. Some are not. Just like MDs. However, it is a fact that DOs have a negative public perception, particularly more so in the medical community, that they need to fight against for the rest of their careers.

I understand the psychology of preDOs, DO med students, and DOs feeling like they need to "play down" this kind of rhetoric and to call people that speak the truth names,and label them as "haters" or "trolls" ... but it doesnt change the truth.

Nowhere did i say or imply MD is better than DO. All i am saying is there is a negative perception of the final DO product which is rooted in the fact that it is easier to get into DO schools than MD schools and most people, regardless of however you spin it in your mind, go to DO because they couldnt or know they cant get into an MD school.

The final product of a DO doc is not any better or worse. But that perception exists. You cant just hide from it.

If i were you, i would educate people to change that perception. Not just call people names. It does not further your cause.


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Awesome trolling job here.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...fellow-ask-me-anything.1152284/#post-16737131
Do you find that a lot of people going into cardiology do so after first aspiring to be a surgeon and not wanting to put in the time and effort? Not asking to be rude but that is what I keep seeing and hearing from the few people I know that went into cardiology.
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Why the eff would you care about a fellow in cardiology when you already made it to a top MD orthopedic surgical program? In fact, I know people that actually are in these programs and plastic surgery. They don't talk like you. Your chit and giggle are wasting bandwidth.
 
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