is the $ worth it for case western

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Case Western Med school is very very very expensive. Is it worth taking out a HUGE loan just for the degree from Case? In-state schools are much cheaper, but no where as near prestigious as Case.
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If it is dramatically more expensive, then unquestionably no. No doctor would tell you to pay a lot more for case over your state school.
 
I'd stay with in state. $$ >> "prestige"
 
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theroadtomed said:
If it is dramatically more expensive, then unquestionably no. No doctor would tell you to pay a lot more for case over your state school.
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Yes Case is dramatically more expensive. But it is just so prestigious, that is it really really really worth it? I mean case is WORLD renown. The state schools just dont have the glamor the world gives to case....
 
nonsciencemajor said:
Yes Case is dramatically more expensive. But it is just so prestigious, that is it really really really worth it? I mean case is WORLD renown. The state schools just dont have the glamor the world gives to case....
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I feel like a noob but... i've never seen case being world renown or well known. Its a midtier private school. If it was top 10 there'd be something to think about.. But it all depends is Case a good fit for you?
 
i really dont think financial aid is easy for children of physicians.....
 
serenade said:
I feel like a noob but... i've never seen case being world renown or well known. Its a midtier private school. If it was top 10 there'd be something to think about.. But it all depends is Case a good fit for you?
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on US News, I think it is ranked as high as Mayo... and while it is not Cleveland Clinic, I have heard of many joint affiliations with it
 
Do you wanna spend the money? Who cares about prestige. The majority of your patients won't know anything about case western. I certainly never heard of it. Johns Hopkins or Mayo or Duke... yes. Case Western?... no.

Edit: Just found out case is ranked 25th nationally. That's not exactly much prestige if it's gonna be a financial hardship. If you have the money, go to the school with more opportunities for you. Like I said, you may be happy with the "prestige" of going to the 25th school, but your patients won't have any idea it's "good."
 
nonsciencemajor said:
on US News, I think it is ranked as high as Mayo... and while it is not Cleveland Clinic, I have heard of many joint affiliations with it
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US new also ranks JHU,harvard and other top tiers very lowly. They rank on terms of primary care or something else, not a reliable source.
 
serenade said:
US new also ranks JHU,harvard and other top tiers very lowly. They rank on terms of primary care or something else, not a reliable source.
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US News breaks down rankings either through research OR primary care

when comparing med schools, I always use the research category... and I think most people use this as the gold standard... it is in that which case is either higher or equivalent to Mayo i think
 
JoshUNCW said:
Do you wanna spend the money? Who cares about prestige. The majority of your patients won't know anything about case western. I certainly never heard of it. Johns Hopkins or Mayo or Duke... yes. Case Western?... no.

Edit: Just found out case is ranked 25th nationally. That's not exactly much prestige if it's gonna be a financial hardship. If you have the money, go to the school with more opportunities for you. Like I said, you may be happy with the "prestige" of going to the 25th school, but your patients won't have any idea it's "good."
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yea its a lot of loan money..... 🙁.... i am starting to think that in-state sounds better
 
nonsciencemajor said:
US News breaks down rankings either through research OR primary care

when comparing med schools, I always use the research category... and I think most people use this as the gold standard... it is in that which case is either higher or equivalent to Mayo i think
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A lot of people say not to use this.. But yes.. idk personally i see Mayo clinic as a lot more prestigious then a lot of other school. I think its top tier while Case is mid tier.
 
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nonsciencemajor said:
US News breaks down rankings either through research OR primary care

when comparing med schools, I always use the research category... and I think most people use this as the gold standard... it is in that which case is either higher or equivalent to Mayo i think
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Most people who don't know what they're doing (read: most pre-meds) use US News research rankings as the gold standard, yes. Absolutely do not go to med school for prestige. That was something like the 10th most important factor is residency selection, so it should be similarly unimportant to you unless you're planning to do academics or research.
 
parents paying for everything for instate not nowhere as known med school as case (no loan) vs. full loan for case

is the question to ponder
 
MilkmanAl said:
Most people who don't know what they're doing (read: most pre-meds) use US News research rankings as the gold standard, yes. Absolutely do not go to med school for prestige. That was something like the 10th most important factor is residency selection, so it should be similarly unimportant to you unless you're planning to do academics or research.
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dont want to do research AT ALL... and probably not academics either because of the lower pay....
 
nonsciencemajor said:
parents paying for everything for instate not nowhere as known med school as case (no loan) vs. full loan for case

is the question to ponder
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Your school being "known" will have almost no affect on what you do after med school. Shoot, your parents are paying for your instate med school so you could graduate with 0 indeptness? If you wanna go to case and have multi-thousand dollar loan repayments after residency feel free. But I'd rather save the money and buy a boat.
 
I feel like "prestige" is so far overblown on these boards. my friend is a fellow pre-medder and recently met up with a friend's friend, who happens to be a doctor. Long story short, the doctor told him how he was a huge slacker in college, very mediocre mcat, got accepted to one med school (spacing on the name, it's the religious one in CA). fast forward to today, he's the head of the G.I dept at his hospital, apparently lives in the most magnificent house my friend has seen and has a pretty hot younger wife 🙂thumbup🙂.

everyone on here wants to go to harvard, yale, JHU, etc just so they can name drop. the sad thing is, no one really cares. do you truly believe you're getting some kind of education that far exceeds every other school? I don't.
 
Go to Case if you're worried about names. I'm gonna go to medical school because I'm worried about being a doctor.
 
JoshUNCW said:
Your school being "known" will have almost no affect on what you do after med school. Shoot, your parents are paying for your instate med school so you could graduate with 0 indeptness? If you wanna go to case and have multi-thousand dollar loan repayments after residency feel free. But I'd rather save the money and buy a boat.
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or a hummer... i would so love a hummer 😍
 
what is the primary considering factor that goes into financial aid?

family's income?
 
serenade said:
Lets try a car that wont kill our environment and kill someone on impact while going 5miles per hour.
Like a hybrid civic =)
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lol... i dont believe in global warming... and if it is occuring, let it happen... i can still stand the rise in global temperatures as long as I can drive my hummer.... assuming I am not melting in the heat :laugh:
 
nonsciencemajor said:
lol... i dont believe in global warming... and if it is occuring, let it happen... i can still stand the rise in global temperatures as long as I can drive my hummer.... assuming I am not melting in the heat :laugh:
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Hummers have amazing AC.
 
MilkmanAl said:
Is global warming something you can "believe in?" 😕
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lol i know its happening...... but i really could not give a s*** about something as minuscule as "ooo the temperature rises an average of 0.00023152423432425235345 degrees a year.... stop all energy consumption" :laugh:
 
nonsciencemajor said:
lol i know its happening...... but i really could not give a s*** about something as minuscule as "ooo the temperature rises an average of 0.00023152423432425235345 degrees a year.... stop all energy consumption" :laugh:
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:bang:
 
nonsciencemajor said:
lol i know its happening...... but i really could not give a s*** about something as minuscule as "ooo the temperature rises an average of 0.00023152423432425235345 degrees a year.... stop all energy consumption" :laugh:
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:smack:
 
If you're asking this question on SDN and trying to get opinions, then no Case Western is not worth it to you. If you were passionate about attending this school, no amount of money would make the difference. Years down the road, when you're paying off your loans, you're not going to be recounting to yourself all the reasons gleaned on SDN about why Case was the better choice, you're just gonna be pissed that you have so much money left to pay.

As far as financial aid, it doesn't really matter what your parents do. Filing the Fafsa for grad school, you're automatically considered independent of your parents. Even if they are paying for some of your schooling. The only reason to include parental information is that some schools use it when giving out need based scholarships. My parents make a good amount of money which resulted in fin aid being useless to me in undergrad. Hopefully grad school is different...
 
nonsciencemajor said:
lol i know its happening...... but i really could not give a s*** about something as minuscule as "ooo the temperature rises an average of 0.00023152423432425235345 degrees a year.... stop all energy consumption" :laugh:
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Your a non-science major how?...
Climate change is more or less a reoccurring theme in our earths existence. It is however something that pinnacles ice age. Our climate goes through warming periods ( 100 to 200 thousand years) and ice ages which last about 30,000 years on average.
If you want proof come to the mid atlantic where we have never in the history of my state Maryland, had this much snow fall. Oh looky we have another 20 inches coming on friday after having 10 inchs fall yesterday..

How this affects you, we'll we can reduce our carbon admissions and go green.. it'll put off global warming by a few thousand years.. It'll also give us a new source of power which will allow us to survive in a world which is over populated and going to starve itself out of existence.

Honestly i'll say this.. green energy is useful because it can be implemented easily and relatively quickly. If we run out of coal/gassoline tomorrow.. Game over.. the developed countries will collapse and we will more then likely have feudalism or something happen again.

urg this conversation sucks... My humane solution.. move the fat ppl to mars :laugh:
 
nonsciencemajor said:
lol... i dont believe in global warming... and if it is occuring, let it happen... i can still stand the rise in global temperatures as long as I can drive my hummer.... assuming I am not melting in the heat :laugh:
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please don't go to Case
 
metallica81788 said:
Me either. And I was fairly well read on different medical schools besides the big names.
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Case is in the category of great med schools like U Pitt, U Chicago, and Mt Sinai. The average person would be like "huh? who cares about that school" but the medical community knows that they are prestigious universities. Talking about tiers is pointless because there are no tiers...

Who cares, really. Yeah, Case is expensive. But if it's a good fit for you, go. If not, don't go.
 
i would say though strictly reputation speaking upitt is regarded higher than case...

and its cheaper too i believe 🙁
 
metallica81788 said:
Me either. And I was fairly well read on different medical schools besides the big names.
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i'm surprised you had not heard of it, looking at all the schools you applied to... case i think is in the same category as Ohio State...
 
i was just looking at the US News Rankings and I am surprised to see Dartmouth at 35 considering it is an ivy league school... how did that happen 😕
 
nonsciencemajor said:
i'm surprised you had not heard of it, looking at all the schools you applied to... case i think is in the same category as Ohio State...
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What are these "categories" that you're talking about?
nonsciencemajor said:
i was just looking at the US News Rankings and I am surprised to see Dartmouth at 35 considering it is an ivy league school... how did that happen 😕
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http://www.usnews.com/articles/educ...4/22/medical-school-rankings-methodology.html
 
rockaction said:
Case is in the category of great med schools like U Pitt, U Chicago, and Mt Sinai. The average person would be like "huh? who cares about that school" but the medical community knows that they are prestigious universities. Talking about tiers is pointless because there are no tiers...

Who cares, really. Yeah, Case is expensive. But if it's a good fit for you, go. If not, don't go.
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The average person is MUCH more likely to know about University of Chicago than Case. And most people in the medical community would not compare Pitt, Chicago, Mt. Sinai with Case....

Case Western is a great school, but to the OP, it's not as "world renowned" as you think. If you loved the school, I would go. But if you got into state schools (and ones that are pretty good say Ohio State?), then you should go there.
 
nonsciencemajor said:
i was just looking at the US News Rankings and I am surprised to see Dartmouth at 35 considering it is an ivy league school... how did that happen 😕
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Yea it's super weird. Brown and Darthmouth are both ranked lower than I expected. Even Georgetown is low 30's???? Mayo is not even top 20. I don't really get this system.
 
As an international student, I will tell you.
Case is not world reknowned.

Never heard of Case till I applied. Sorry to burst ur bubble.
 
alibai3ah said:
Yea it's super weird. Brown and Darthmouth are both ranked lower than I expected. Even Georgetown is low 30's???? Mayo is not even top 20. I don't really get this system.
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i would say brown ranking seems right... especially considering with their PLME program where students dont have to take the MCAT to get into brown...

georgetown is good but its not great like what people make it out to be... i think the ranking of georgetown is right too...

but mayo is not.. it should be like in top 5 haha...

so some of the rankings seem right others are kinda ehhh
 
God, I think this thread is very reflective of a lot of pre-meds personalities.

😴

You worry about the wrong things. The wrong things.
 
assturtle said:
he's the head of the G.I dept at his hospital, apparently lives in the most magnificent house my friend has seen and has a pretty hot younger wife 🙂thumbup🙂
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Is that what I should aspire to?

...
 
nonsciencemajor said:
i would say though strictly reputation speaking upitt is regarded higher than case...

and its cheaper too i believe 🙁
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who cares?

alibai3ah said:
The average person is MUCH more likely to know about University of Chicago than Case. And most people in the medical community would not compare Pitt, Chicago, Mt. Sinai with Case....

Case Western is a great school, but to the OP, it's not as "world renowned" as you think. If you loved the school, I would go. But if you got into state schools (and ones that are pretty good say Ohio State?), then you should go there.
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are you from the midwest? because Case is the best university in Ohio hands down, and is very well respected throughout the midwest.
 
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