is there a phd future for me?

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I hold a BS, DDS, and a dental residency certificate. I'm a general dentist working in Medicaid clinics as we speak. Aside from the degrees and my experience, I don't have anything remarkable on my CV. I don't have good grades and I don't have any major research experience.

I'm trying to leave patient care and go into biomedical research. I'm wondering if a PhD from a decent program is something I can reasonably attain.

What should I do? Where do I start?
 
Getting into grad school is easy. If you're serious you should start working in research asap, take the GRE, and apply to grad school. You should have little trouble getting into a "solid" grad school in biomedical science. To put it simply, there is a PhD future for everyone who wants one. For more info, I'm sure you could contact a graduate program you're interested in at a nearby institution. They're happy to recruit new indentured servants... errr students.

The question is, will there be a JOB for you down the line. The answer is, who knows?! You will work very hard for very low pay for many many years towards an uncertain future in a hypercompetitive job market. Dentistry is a secure and certain gig. I would think very long and very hard before giving that up.
 
Getting into grad school is easy. If you're serious you should start working in research asap, take the GRE, and apply to grad school. You should have little trouble getting into a "solid" grad school in biomedical science. To put it simply, there is a PhD future for everyone who wants one. For more info, I'm sure you could contact a graduate program you're interested in at a nearby institution. They're happy to recruit new indentured servants... errr students.

The question is, will there be a JOB for you down the line. The answer is, who knows?! You will work very hard for very low pay for many many years towards an uncertain future in a hypercompetitive job market. Dentistry is a secure and certain gig. I would think very long and very hard before giving that up.

Is there any way for me to get into a good PhD program without any research experience?

And exactly how bad is the job market for biomedical PhDs?
 
Is there any way for me to get into a good PhD program without any research experience?

And exactly how bad is the job market for biomedical PhDs?

I think most PhD programs want you to have some sort of research experience. If you want to get into a "good" program I'm sure it's mandatory. Or else how do they know you won't just drop out when you quickly realize it's not for you?

As far as I can tell, the job market is pretty bad. Not only this, but you have essentially 0 (zero) job security and are completely dependent on your PI keeping their word. Although discouraging, I'm still pretty sure I'm going this route anyway for many other reasons.
 
I think most PhD programs want you to have some sort of research experience.

I'm no longer in school and I don't have any lab or faculty connections.

How can I accumulate the research experience for grad school admissions?
 
What are your reasons for going into biomedical research, given that you have little experience in it? If your dental background can't get you into some dental research program, as humble as it sounds, you may have to volunteer in a research lab to get yourself started. Depending on how flexible your clinical hours are, you may or may not be able to arrange it.
 
What are your reasons for going into biomedical research, given that you have little experience in it? If your dental background can't get you into some dental research program, as humble as it sounds, you may have to volunteer in a research lab to get yourself started. Depending on how flexible your clinical hours are, you may or may not be able to arrange it.

I don't have any interest in dental research.

What type of labwork should I volunteer for? What should I expect to be doing? Is there anything I should look for in a lab before committing myself to volunteer hours? For how long do I have to volunteer? How hard is it to land a paid-position for doing work at a lab? How important is it for the lab's research topic to coincide with my own scientific interest?

My grades in both undergrad, dental school, and residency were rather crappy. By how much would this affect me in getting accepted to a top program?
 
Unfortunately, the answer to many of your questions above is "it depends". From my own experience and observation, working in a lab in the field of your interest certainly is more ideal, but across research fields, the principles, daily routines and administrative hurdles are more or less the same. You will get a sense of the life as a researcher in general no matter which lab you land in, the difference is probably just in the flavors.

As a volunteer, you'll likely start with basic housekeeping work, glassware, gels, PCRs, etc., repetitive work with little intellectual contribution. It sounds frustrating, but keep in mind that with your lack of research experience, you bring only a pair of extra hands to the lab, and lab members have to carve out time from their own stressful schedules to teach you how to pipet. It's a slow and boring start, and many people have stopped and turned around there. Should you be able to catch up on scientific knowledge in that field and master whatever basic techniques commonly employed in that lab, you may convince a lab member to let you help with their project. Under their supervision, you should be able to plan, design, and execute experiments aimed at answering distinctive questions that contribute to the project. If you excel in this stage, you may already have enough experience and skills to land a paid research assistant position, either in the same lab or another one. How long would it take you to reach this point is mostly up to you. The faster you assimilate knowledge, the better you are at scientific critical thinking, the more rigorous you are at executing experiments, the shorter it takes you to reach the end of the tunnel (and the beginning of another infinitely longer one called the research career).

Grades may not matter as much as GRE and research letters. I'll leave it to others who have experience applying to PhD-only programs.
 
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