is there any schools that has acceptance advantages to asians?

[mynameistino]

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Hi,
I am wondering if there is any schools out there that give asian advantages when accepting applicants?
I know there is no schools out there that automatically accept asians but i am wondering if they accept asians to diversify the school alittle bit.
California schools?

Thank you

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

Hi,
I am wondering if there is any schools out there that give asian advantages when accepting applicants?
I know there is no schools out there that automatically accept asians but i am wondering if they accept asians to diversify the school alittle bit.
California schools?

Thank you

it's not very beneficial being asian when applying to the health professions. If you look at the number of applications for asian per school, you will probably laugh a bit. Sometimes, i feel like it's better being caucasian than asian when apply to the health field. Reverse discrimination against asian does happen <http://www.asianam.org/statistics%20reverse.htm>. However, if you live in areas that have less asians, it will be a bit less competitive to get in. For example: South Carolina, Georgia, N. Carolina. There are a bunch of rice eating people in California, so I wouldn't count on it. To sum it up, asians are not considered a minority group in the health field.

 

[polarnut]

There are a bunch of rice eating people in California.

dont forget the cornbread eating people, potato eating people, bean eating people, and cracker eating people.

 

[Gulch]

dont forget the cornbread eating people, potato eating people, bean eating people, and cracker eating people.

I can't believe you lumped all "cracker eating people" into one group!!!!!!! How can you make broad, sweeping, dusting generalizations like that????!!! How culinarily racist!! Cheezit people are NOT wheat thin people, and chickin-in-a-biskit people are NOT ritz people. Why don't you get your facts straight next time before you go and write something so ignorant! 👎 👎 👎

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

NYUCD

My class is about 35% asain I think. Actually in the class of 2007, the "avg" person is a 27 year old Asian Female.

Our first year in our Diversity and Ethics class, we all filled out a scantron with our race, gender and age. The prof took the data, posted it in class with a break down, then figured out what the Avg student was. Very interesting to say the least.

 

[INFNITE]

basically...don't expect Asians to be treated as minorities in medical fields

 

[ArmoredTooth]

From my perspectives, and yes I'm E. Asian, I think Asian females get an easier chance than Asian males when it comes to health profession admissions.

The the OP, you should look at the midwest dental schools such as Iowa, Minnesota (I may be wrong on MN since there are lots of Viet and Hmongs living in MN), Creighton, Oklahoma or Meharry for dental schools.

California dental schools have too many E. Asians and Eastern Indians/Iranians/Middle Eastern people. Trust me, the last time I've been to UCSF, I saw tons of E. Asian and E. Indian students.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

There are a bunch of rice eating people in California, so I wouldn't count on it. QUOTE]

^^ That was such a racist comment there. 😡

 

[LifetimeDoc]

^^ That was such a racist comment there. 😡

Agreed. But the OP using their race to discriminate against others in the admissions process is also racist. 🙄

 

[INFNITE]

to the OP...why do you care which schools give preferential treatments to Asians anyway? Asians get in schools everywhere with no troubles, and I'm sure you can to. Dependency on the "minority advantage" is not the right way to handle things in my opinion. It's not like being Asian gives you a disadvantage when it comes to your educational background or your family's financial status.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

to the OP...why do you care which schools give preferential treatments to Asians anyway? Asians get in schools everywhere with no troubles, and I'm sure you can to. Dependency on the "minority advantage" is not the right way to handle things in my opinion. It's not like being Asian gives you a disadvantage when it comes to your educational background or your family's financial status.

I think what the OP is trying to ask is which dental schools have a smaller E. Asian/Middle East student body. Reason is dental schools with, let's say with a 40% Asian student body, is going to be very difficult for an Asian applicant with a 3.57 GPA and a good DAT score to get into, VS a dental school with 89% white student body. So the OP may have an easier chance with those kind of stats to get into a dental program with less Asian students.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

Agreed. But the OP using their race to discriminate against others in the admissions process is also racist. 🙄

Well, I've seen applicants with low DAT scores and average GPAs get into dental schools. If you're a female, you're definitely going to have an easier chance of getting into dental school. If you're BOTH a disadvantaged minority (i.e. black, hispanic) and a female, you're definitely going to have a great chance of getting into dental school. I know this hispanic girl from my dental club who got an AA of 17 and a 3.19 GPA who got interviews from Harvard, UW, and easily gotten an acceptance to Creighton's dental school w/out an interview.

 

[4dat]

If you're a female, you're definitely going to have an easier chance of getting into dental school. .

I don't think being a female will have better chance of getting into dental school. More and more pre-dent and dental students are female now. If you have been to UCSF, you will notice they have more female than male in their class...

 

[Yah-E]

Hi,
I am wondering if there is any schools out there that give asian advantages when accepting applicants?
I know there is no schools out there that automatically accept asians

Sure, try universities in China, Taiwan, Japan, and Korea. They only accept Asians, you definitely have an advantage there.

 

[Gulch]

I don't think being a female will have better chance of getting into dental school. More and more pre-dent and dental students are female now. If you have been to UCSF, you will notice they have more female than male in their class...

Wierdest thing was interviewing at UCSF. Looking around the room at the other applicants I was one of two white guys in a room of like eighteen people. then dr alexander gets up and starts talking about how diversity is so important to ucsf. Which is cool, but then, just to make sure he showed a video about the value of racial, ethnic and religious diversity. I was like, o crap, I AM THE ANTI-DIVERSE! For some wierd reason, I don't think the UCSF adcom views being Mormon as religious diversity, do they? Probably not. At least not in dentistry. Anyway. Seriously, looking around the room, I represented what they did not value. It was wierd. I didn't get in, and I don't blame it on being a white male. but seriously, the presentation, for me was like "we value gold and you are the token silver nugget in the room. Just to cover our bases" Everybody else is gold here. bizzaro. I couldn't help that I'm white. or male. why is it such a big deal? this whole race thing a wrench in the works.

I'm sure the same thing holds for asians. the whole thing is sort of jacked.

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

There are a bunch of rice eating people in California, so I wouldn't count on it. QUOTE]

^^ That was such a racist comment there. 😡

how the fuk is it racist when i eat rice 3 times a day and i'm asian! good lord, shut the crap up!

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

There are a bunch of rice eating people in California, so I wouldn't count on it. QUOTE]

^^ That was such a racist comment there. 😡

not if you're yellow and you eat rice as well. i like rice...it makes my dong grows out 10 inches longer. Laugh it up! Don't take things too personally. Your post is so annoying that after i read it i have to go to the bathroom and take a big shyt!

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

dont forget the cornbread eating people, potato eating people, bean eating people, and cracker eating people.

haha

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

I can't believe you lumped all "cracker eating people" into one group!!!!!!! How can you make broad, sweeping, dusting generalizations like that????!!! How culinarily racist!! Cheezit people are NOT wheat thin people, and chickin-in-a-biskit people are NOT ritz people. Why don't you get your facts straight next time before you go and write something so ignorant! 👎 👎 👎

haha how culinarily racist!!!! from what i heard everything tastes like chicken, and we all decended from asians, so no one can really be racist.

 

[americanpierg]

to the OP...why do you care which schools give preferential treatments to Asians anyway? Asians get in schools everywhere with no troubles, and I'm sure you can to. Dependency on the "minority advantage" is not the right way to handle things in my opinion. It's not like being Asian gives you a disadvantage when it comes to your educational background or your family's financial status.

....and how does being black give them a disadvantage? Because they grew up in an "underprivledged" enviornment...who's fault was? Most asians/indians/mexicans are first/second generation immigrants and had to work hard to get where they are. Many even entered America with very little money and a zero understanding of the English language. If non-english speaking immigrants are able to succeed in America, then it goes to show that anyone can succeed. All those bums out there just brough it upon themselves.

lol and because other asians have an easy time getting into dental school means that the OP should too?

us whites should be given bonus points because have an inadequate amount of melanin in our skin which is holding us back intellectually

 

[phremius]

....and how does being black give them a disadvantage? Because they grew up in an "underprivledged" enviornment...who's fault was? Most asians/indians/mexicans are first/second generation immigrants and had to work hard to get where they are. Many even entered America with very little money and a zero understanding of the English language. If non-english speaking immigrants are able to succeed in America, then it goes to show that anyone can succeed. All those bums out there just brough it upon themselves.

lol and because other asians have an easy time getting into dental school means that the OP should too?

us whites should be given bonus points because have an inadequate amount of melanin in our skin which is holding us back intellectually

you're demonstrating a very narrow understanding of the "underpriviledged" situation. Also, by lumping all asians into one, all indian-lookalikes into "indians" and all hispanics into "mexicans" you just simultaneously revealed yourself to have nary a clue on this subject matter.

But sticking on subject, to the OP: no, not really.

 

[RockstarDMD]

This is a very non-productive thread.

 

[dancedancekj]

Diversity is such a huge issue, we haven't even made a scratch on the tip of the iceberg.

On the other hand, I am getting more and more the feeling (unfounded, but perhaps with a bit of truth) that being Asian works against me more than it works for me, even being in Nebraska.
Given the saturation of Asians in not only the health professions but all scholarly pursuits and the fact that their parents were merciless in the raising of their children (stereotypical Asian parent who place high emphasis on academic achievement) due to the importance of education in Asian culture, it might make competition solely based on Asian heritage a bit difficult for the average or below average Asian to compete.
Because the stereotype and perhaps the norm in some places is for asians to have high GPA, high test scores, and most likely a good background in the math and sciences as well as any of the other stereotypical Asian extracurriculars (music for instance), being below the Asian norm may make people question your intellect.

"Dude, you got a B+ in math? But you're Asian..."

I could go on for hours...

 

[INFNITE]

having a high GPA and DAT score triumphs over your ethnicity when it comes to applying to dental schools...so focus on your grades instead of your Asianess

 

[DDSWannaBe2007]

it's not very beneficial being asian when applying to the health professions. If you look at the number of applications for asian per school, you will probably laugh a bit. Sometimes, i feel like it's better being caucasian than asian when apply to the health field. Reverse discrimination against asian does happen <http://www.asianam.org/statistics%20reverse.htm>. However, if you live in areas that have less asians, it will be a bit less competitive to get in. For example: South Carolina, Georgia, N. Carolina. There are a bunch of rice eating people in California, so I wouldn't count on it. To sum it up, asians are not considered a minority group in the health field.

so true!!!! but it depends what Asian you are~ i know Vietnamese are still considered as minority~!

 

[cbennett]

?

 

[Future DDS]

so true!!!! but it depends what Asian you are~ i know Vietnamese are still considered as minority~!

heck they're not!

 

[cbennett]

Being WHITE makes me under represented in the NBA. Do i get a handicap to play? NO!!! So why should you.

 

[flossin']

...

 

[ArmoredTooth]

I don't think being a female will have better chance of getting into dental school. More and more pre-dent and dental students are female now. If you have been to UCSF, you will notice they have more female than male in their class...

Yes being a female DOES give you an edge over a male applicant.

I know this girl (not the hispanic girl I talked about earlier) in my pre-dent club who had a 3.7 GPA and a decent DAT score. She applied to 18 dental schools and got interviews from 8 different schools. My other friend with similar stats only got one interview.

Honestly 4dat, there is a higher ratio of males over females in dental schools. If you look at the historic statistic of the gender of the dental students, dentistry was dominated heavily by males. Now, dental schools are looking more for females.

Plus dental schools get federal funding for providing "equality" to females, hence more females get into dental school than males do.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

not if you're yellow and you eat rice as well. i like rice...it makes my dong grows out 10 inches longer. Laugh it up! Don't take things too personally. Your post is so annoying that after i read it i have to go to the bathroom and take a big shyt!

Shut your ****ing mouth you racist piece of ****. I'd love to see you say that to my face you redneck mutha****er.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

so true!!!! but it depends what Asian you are~ i know Vietnamese are still considered as minority~!

DDSWannabe,

I as an E Asian know that Vietnamese, Laotians/Hmongs and Cambodians are at a disadvantage compared to Koreans, Chinese and Japanese.

However, do the dental school adcoms know about this? Womp womp, no.

Unfortunately, many of the adcoms are ignorant and know nothing about the financial hardship and the socio-economic problems that Vietnamese, Hmongs and Cambodians face in America.

They just think that we "all look the same" so a dental school that has 32 slots for E.Asians/E. Indians may fill it up with Chinese, Koreans and E Indians only due to their high GPA and test scores, and could care less about a Vietnamese applicant from a disadvantaged family.

This is what irritates me about the admissions process.

 

[Notoriousjae]

Shut your ****ing mouth you racist piece of ****. I'd love to see you say that to my face you redneck mutha****er.

LOL
this thread is really entertaining but sadly not productive at all.

 

[ArmoredTooth]

Being WHITE makes me under represented in the NBA. Do i get a handicap to play? NO!!! So why should you.

Beats me bud, and I'm not even whining about affirmative action.

But it's true and there in the admissions process for not only dental school, but also for med school, optometry school, vet school,...you name it.

 

[Notoriousjae]

DDSWannabe,

I as an E Asian know that Vietnamese, Laotians/Hmongs and Cambodians are at a disadvantage compared to Koreans, Chinese and Japanese.

However, do the dental school adcoms know about this? Womp womp, no.

Unfortunately, many of the adcoms are ignorant and know nothing about the financial hardship and the socio-economic problems that Vietnamese, Hmongs and Cambodians face in America.

They just think that we "all look the same" so a dental school that has 32 slots for E.Asians/E. Indians may fill it up with Chinese, Koreans and E Indians only due to their high GPA and test scores, and could care less about a Vietnamese applicant from a disadvantaged family.

This is what irritates me about the admissions process.

how can you just assume that chinese, koreans and E Indians dont go through the same hardships? Its kind of bold of you make such an ignorant statement because unless you take a census you wont really know for sure now will you?

 

[armorshell]

Um, I'm 1/2 Irish, 1/2 Alsatian. That has to count for something right?

 

[Notoriousjae]

Um, I'm 1/2 Irish, 1/2 Alsacian. That has to count for something right?

 

[StephL26]

OMG...being Asian, I am now worried. At first, I was thinking "who cares if you're Asian, African, Hispanic...just get the grades, LOR's, and passion for dentistry and get accepted!!!"...NOW...you guys are making me worried...does our ethnicity really matter in our application process??? I usually fill in "OTHER" for my ethnicity; no need to be categorized, since we're all applying for the same thing. *tears*

 

[ArmoredTooth]

how can you just assume that chinese, koreans and E Indians dont go through the same hardships? Its kind of bold of you make such an ignorant statement because unless you take a census you wont really know for sure now will you?

Well because on average, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Taiwanese do well academically and they tend to have more money than Hmongs and Cambodians who tend to more than often, live in low-income areas.

I never said that Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and taiwanese never live in poverty or a hard life. There are many who do.

But many Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians tend to be at the lower wrung of the ladder in the "Asian hierarchy" when it comes to socio-economic comparisons.

 

[americanpierg]

so true!!!! but it depends what Asian you are~ i know Vietnamese are still considered as minority~!

you mean theres a difference?!!! im jp im asian too, only we can tell the difference between ourselves....kinda like how all black people look the same to me

 

[americanpierg]

Being WHITE makes me under represented in the NBA. Do i get a handicap to play? NO!!! So why should you.

Actually you do get a handicap, numerous in fact. For one you don't hold the pressure of having to suceed. Secondly you will have a larger fan following with less skills that a black person would need to get the same level of recognization. Thirdly, you will have an easier time on the court because they wont take you seriously. Lastly, you wont be distracted by the stripe clothing that the officials wear.

 

[prez_al]

OMG...being Asian, I am now worried. At first, I was thinking "who cares if you're Asian, African, Hispanic...just get the grades, LOR's, and passion for dentistry and get accepted!!!"...NOW...you guys are making me worried...does our ethnicity really matter in our application process??? I usually fill in "OTHER" for my ethnicity; no need to be categorized, since we're all applying for the same thing. *tears*

I wrote down Asian! Damn proud of it too... If you have the grades etc. then why should you be worried?? Well, there's no way to hide our asian-ness sadly.... esp if we have to send in our photo, so I don't think we should worry about the asian-ness factor coming in. Well, if stereotypes are true... an asian who scores well in RC will look really good 😉 👍 . Just a thought!

 

[StephL26]

I wrote down Asian! Damn proud of it too... If you have the grades etc. then why should you be worried?? Well, there's no way to hide our asian-ness sadly.... esp if we have to send in our photo, so I don't think we should worry about the asian-ness factor coming in. Well, if stereotypes are true... an asian who scores well in RC will look really good 😉 👍 . Just a thought!

Haha, yea, I'm definitely proud of being Asian too 😎 , but I don't like to be categorized for stupid stats in those surveys about people's backgrounds- it's not like they will really effect the admissions process (so they say...), but we do have to send in 2X2 photos as supplementals to our applications...which I don't think is fair...it should only be looked at after interviews. 😱

 

[BallDontLie]

OMG...being Asian, I am now worried. At first, I was thinking "who cares if you're Asian, African, Hispanic...just get the grades, LOR's, and passion for dentistry and get accepted!!!"...NOW...you guys are making me worried...does our ethnicity really matter in our application process??? I usually fill in "OTHER" for my ethnicity; no need to be categorized, since we're all applying for the same thing. *tears*

bingo. If you have the numbers and the personality, then no, race does not matter one bit. If you have a low GPA/DAT, THEN u need to worry. There's no sense in worrying about pointless crap you cant control like your race. Its annoying when people compare the admission results of two students with similar stats saying they were the same except one was asian, one was white. Thats such bull****. No two applicants are EVER the same. In those situations where a discrepancy exists, I firmly believe there has to be some factor other than race. People just fail to notice that maybe one person was sociable and has his head on straight while the other is a complete tool.

 

[phremius]

Idiots. All around. Everywhere on this thread.

 

[dancedancekj]

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[groundhog]

A bit off the subject, but interesting. I attended a recent law school graduation ceremony. Along with the 200+ who got their JD's there were about 24 who got LLM's in Intellectual Property. The 24 were all asian. I asked my newly minted JD friend about the LLM's and why they were all asian. He said they all had at least Bachelor degrees in the hard sciences in addition to their JD's. They all had good paying jobs lined up. They would spend most of their careers in big legal firms preparing detailed scientific litigation analyses for the court room talking heads.

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

Shut your ****ing mouth you racist piece of ****. I'd love to see you say that to my face you redneck mutha****er.

haha...relax my brother!

 

[xxxTheDonxxx]

Well because on average, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and Taiwanese do well academically and they tend to have more money than Hmongs and Cambodians who tend to more than often, live in low-income areas.

I never said that Chinese, Koreans, Japanese and taiwanese never live in poverty or a hard life. There are many who do.

But many Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians tend to be at the lower wrung of the ladder in the "Asian hierarchy" when it comes to socio-economic comparisons.

Alright here is the conclusion. Yes race does matter when you are applying to dental school, but they will also look at your GPA/DAT. I'm sorry to hear that schools are looking for the right type of kids entering their class, not just stats alone. It is quite stupid, but this is how it works. If you want to change that, be a political leader. By the way, those who got heated over the race thing, just drink a nice cold glass of water and piss it out. Being asian is great! 👍

 

[ArmoredTooth]

👍

haha...relax my brother!

*Pats TheDon on the back* 😀