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Do you think it's manageable to take human anatomy+anatomy lab AND Ochem 1 at the same time in the summer and do well in both or is that a bad idea? I don't want to just get passing grades in these classes. I want to get A's and am willing to work hard for them (but I don't want to die in the process 🙁 ).

The classes will be over a course of 8 weeks, Monday through Thursday, from 10am-2pm (Ochem) and then 5-10pm (anatomy). That means I will be staying 12 hours at school from 10am-10pm.

Should I go for it? Would you do it if you were me and really needed these classes?

I should say that I'm not good at rote memorization though.
 
I have yet to take Organic Chemistry, but A&P covers a lot of material. I know from discussion that Organic is a time hog. I am currently arriving at the college at 8am just to study for my earlier classes at 11 (A&P) and have Stats M,W until 730 pm and on Thursday I have A&P til 7:50 pm. However, I don't arrive at the college until 1pm on Thursday for Chem II.

The point of saying all that is my experience. I need a few SOBE's to stay alert after that time. Sure, I could arrive later than 8 am, but then I wouldn't be as productive. If you have no friends at the college, it may be easier. Just because you don't have to worry about slacking off if a buddy stops by while you are studying.

Really, it is just a drain. I'll be in Spanish 4 and Bio this summer and can't wait. Whatever you choose, good luck. If you have no job, I would say go for it. Just clear your schedule of any fun.
 
Short and sweet : yes. It is a bad idea. I'm taking A&P lab right now and it's only 1 credit hour but takes up good 3-4 hours a week of studying. That's during regular semester. If you take it during summer, you'll have enough on your hands with just that.
 
Scout01,

I think it's a bad idea, period. Please choose just one or the other. The two classes at the same time, especially in the summer semester, will be overkill for you and you definately don't want to jeopardize getting good grades in either classes. Human A&P requires A LOT of studying as well as memorization. With Organic Chem. I, you want to make sure you really understand this subject because 40% of this material will be on the PCAT. I hope that helps. 🙂
 
Thank you everyone for your input. But I want to clarify something, and perhaps this could change your answer. The class isn't A&P. It's anatomy by itself (with lab). A and P courses are offered separate here. I have already taken physiology, so I'm hoping anatomy will come easier to me. Although that probably won't be the case since A is supposed to help you out with P and not as much the other way around.
 
Why do you want to be risky?
If you don't have to do it, don't do it.
If you want to take more than one class in the summer, take one course of sciences and other requirements.
 
Anatomy is almost straight memorization. The classes are apples and oranges. I would just take the O-Chem and have that behind you if you want to have the difficult class behind you. Anatomy at my school is cadavar based and the lab involves a lot of time analyzing structures and disection so it is a lot of work but isn't that difficult to understand.
 
Do you think it's manageable to take human anatomy+anatomy lab AND Ochem 1 at the same time in the summer and do well in both or is that a bad idea? I don't want to just get passing grades in these classes. I want to get A's and am willing to work hard for them (but I don't want to die in the process 🙁 ).

The classes will be over a course of 8 weeks, Monday through Thursday, from 10am-2pm (Ochem) and then 5-10pm (anatomy). That means I will be staying 12 hours at school from 10am-10pm.

Should I go for it? Would you do it if you were me and really needed these classes?

I should say that I'm not good at rote memorization though.

I actually took A&P (with lab) and Ochem 2 (with lab) together and managed to do well, but these were the only classes I took that semester and they totaled 10 credit hours
 
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Which would you say is the more difficult class between anatomy and physiology?

I'm guessing to me, it'll be anatomy because I'm usually better at doing well in classes with concepts rather than straight fact memorization. I retain information better when I understand the concepts and really suck at just regurgitating facts without thought of the meaning (i.e. rote memorization). sigh... 🙁
 
Taking anatomy during the summer is okay (mine was pretty easy) but it's the time that sucks. If you are on campus for that long it will wear you out. You have time between classes to study but when you get home you probably will not want to study.

Why do you want to take these classes during the summer? Is it so your class load will be lighter during the fall? I would recommend taking anatomy and maybe an easier class, such as economics, speech/public speaking, a humanities/social science course or a general education requirement that a school requires if that is the case.
 
How about taking microbio+lab along with Ochem? Would that be more manageable than taking anatomy with Ochem?


Why do you want to take these classes during the summer? Is it so your class load will be lighter during the fall?
Yes, kind of. I work a part-time job and have a lot on my plate during the school year, and also I'm in a bit of a time crunch to finish my bachelors.
 
How about taking microbio+lab along with Ochem? Would that be more manageable than taking anatomy with Ochem?



Yes, kind of. I work a part-time job and have a lot on my plate during the school year, and also I'm in a bit of a time crunch to finish my bachelors.

Depends on the workload in microbio....my microbio class was tough. We had an assignment for every lab, quizzes for every lab and lab reports. The professor knew that many of us were going into professional school, so he made it more difficult on purpose (thankfully so because I was well prepared for the PCAT).

I think you need to take an *easy* class along with ochem if that is really what you want to do. Economics is pretty simple and rather enjoyable (IMO).
 
How about taking microbio+lab along with Ochem? Would that be more manageable than taking anatomy with Ochem?

My micro class was rather intense because my prof was very detailed oriented. In hindsight I'm glad he was as it was ultimately helpful, but that was my experience with it.
 
Do you think it's manageable to take human anatomy+anatomy lab AND Ochem 1 at the same time in the summer and do well in both or is that a bad idea? I don't want to just get passing grades in these classes. I want to get A's and am willing to work hard for them (but I don't want to die in the process 🙁 ).

The classes will be over a course of 8 weeks, Monday through Thursday, from 10am-2pm (Ochem) and then 5-10pm (anatomy). That means I will be staying 12 hours at school from 10am-10pm.

Should I go for it? Would you do it if you were me and really needed these classes?

I should say that I'm not good at rote memorization though.

I took the anatomy and physiology I and II with lab courses over the summer in 2009. I worked full-time, and I think it was rather time consuming. It took a while to read the textbook, and that was actually the first college textbook I ever read 😳 cover to cover. It was interesting, and the course was done solely out of interest thus it was more than a hobby than anything else. It was, however, time consuming. It entailed what I, as a former teacher, refer to as "busy work." Also, the lab part often took more time to finish than it could've/should've. The physiology part was awesome, but the anatomy part became a sort of, "Yeah, ok let's move on here. I don't care what that prominence is called."

With the reputation that o-chem has I'd avoid taking anything with it in the summer. Now, I've never had the class, but I did just read (last night) the Chemistry for Dummies chapter addressing organic chemistry. I can see how the course would become time consuming.

Anatomy will be about memorizing, and organic will be about understanding. Unless you have a good ability to switch gears and devour lots of information in a short amount of time then you probably should think of avoiding the courses together.

I took mircobiology in the summer of 2002 by itself. At the time, I made a B in it, and as soon as I was out of class I was done. Of course, at the time, I was a lazy student more concerned with...well, nevermind, but I didn't put in what I could've. The only thing I recall being hard about it all was "dilution series," but I'd still avoid taking that with o-chem. Literally, your whole day will likely get spent sitting on your rear in class so keep that in mind. Also, sitting still looking down a microscope for several hours....ugh. I'd either fall asleep or be bouncing off the walls if I had to endure that with o-chem.
 
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