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[crede]

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I stopped doing this after feeling a very guilty/heavy conscience, but if I have someone check my answers to verify if they are right is that considered cheating?

This is for an online course, but not everyone has access to this person. this person is not a phd or expert in their field that they are helping me out with and they didn't solve the problem for me, they just checked, in fact i even got some problems wrong even though they said i was right in my thinking?

I feel bad because this isn't something everyone has access to in the course and I do because I'm a member, but at the same time I'm shy and I view my friends who help each other with problems in the same light as cheating, because when they work with each other they solve the whole problem together not allowing the person to come up with the answers by themselves.

I didn't realize that this could be cheating until I stopped. What is your take on this? Should I be feeling bad, and am I cheating? I'm not sending exams or having someone do the work for me? Would it be cheating if they did half the work or 3/4 if I couldn't figure it out?

😕 Perplexing the more I think about it, where are the lines to draw in cheating and asking for help? Am I suppose to do everything by myself and never ask for help even as I move on from this and risk making the same mistake over and over again.

And my example of my friends, even though they are working together, its not this specific case, but what do you have to say to this? Am I thinking too much into this?

 

[IHOPness]

You probably weren't supposed to obtain outside help. If you really have a problem with it, check out the school's honor policy. You might want to turn yourself in and pray for forgiveness.

 

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[sex]

Yes, it is cheating. However, you are helping your grade in the process. And with things such as the gpa, you kind o$ uave to give your grades the higher priority over honesty.

So in a way I support what you are doing. Medical schools care abou grades, not how you get them, obviously keeping in mind not getting in trouble for it along the way.

However, you have to consider how essential is the stuff you are currently learning is, because you might have to take an exam in the future and said person or group will not be there to help.

Just think of it this way, there is probably someone else doing the same as you in the class. You are unlikely the only witty one to use outside help.

 

[911 Turbo]

Yes, it is cheating. However, you are helping your grade in the process. And with things such as the gpa, you kind o$ uave to give your grades the higher priority over honesty.

So in a way I support what you are doing. Medical schools care abou grades, not how you get them, obviously keeping in mind not getting in trouble for it along the way.

However, you have to consider how essential is the stuff you are currently learning is, because you might have to take an exam in the future and said person or group will not be there to help.

Just think of it this way, there is probably someone else doing the same as you in the class. You are unlikely the only witty one to use outside help.

DUDE...WTF
how has that username not been taken before?? why did I think of it? 😡🙁

 

[IHOPness]

DUDE...WTF
how has that username not been taken before?? why did I think of it? 😡🙁

That's what I was thinking.

 

[jm192]

I stopped doing this after feeling a very guilty/heavy conscience, but if I have someone check my answers to verify if they are right is that considered cheating?

This is for an online course, but not everyone has access to this person. this person is not a phd or expert in their field that they are helping me out with and they didn't solve the problem for me, they just checked, in fact i even got some problems wrong even though they said i was right in my thinking?

I feel bad because this isn't something everyone has access to in the course and I do because I'm a member, but at the same time I'm shy and I view my friends who help each other with problems in the same light as cheating, because when they work with each other they solve the whole problem together not allowing the person to come up with the answers by themselves.

I didn't realize that this could be cheating until I stopped. What is your take on this? Should I be feeling bad, and am I cheating? I'm not sending exams or having someone do the work for me? Would it be cheating if they did half the work or 3/4 if I couldn't figure it out?

😕 Perplexing the more I think about it, where are the lines to draw in cheating and asking for help? Am I suppose to do everything by myself and never ask for help even as I move on from this and risk making the same mistake over and over again.

And my example of my friends, even though they are working together, its not this specific case, but what do you have to say to this? Am I thinking too much into this?

Online classes have no enforced honor code. I'm not saying I support it or that it's right. But you're not the first person that wasn't a perfect little student from the other side of the computer.

 

[ponyo]

Shouldn't this kind of thing be your syllabus/list of expectations/whatever sent out at the beginning of the semester? It is really dependent on the individual professor and the class. For instance I've had classes where collaboration on homework assignments was encouraged. For other classes tutors were allowed to help you on assignments. In any of those classes what you did as well as what your friends did would be totally fine.

 

[latrala2300]

I stopped doing this after feeling a very guilty/heavy conscience, but if I have someone check my answers to verify if they are right is that considered cheating?

This is for an online course, but not everyone has access to this person. this person is not a phd or expert in their field that they are helping me out with and they didn't solve the problem for me, they just checked, in fact i even got some problems wrong even though they said i was right in my thinking?

I feel bad because this isn't something everyone has access to in the course and I do because I'm a member, but at the same time I'm shy and I view my friends who help each other with problems in the same light as cheating, because when they work with each other they solve the whole problem together not allowing the person to come up with the answers by themselves.

I didn't realize that this could be cheating until I stopped. What is your take on this? Should I be feeling bad, and am I cheating? I'm not sending exams or having someone do the work for me? Would it be cheating if they did half the work or 3/4 if I couldn't figure it out?

😕 Perplexing the more I think about it, where are the lines to draw in cheating and asking for help? Am I suppose to do everything by myself and never ask for help even as I move on from this and risk making the same mistake over and over again.

And my example of my friends, even though they are working together, its not this specific case, but what do you have to say to this? Am I thinking too much into this?

Yes, it is cheating. Whether or not you turn yourself in, have someone else tattle, or never get caught is one of those mysteries you'll eventually solve.

 

[Disinence2]

No!

Having a friend look over your homework/assignments before you turn them in is NOT cheating. It sounds like you did the work first.

Having them sit by you while you take the final exam and point to the right answers probably would be cheating, but you will never get caught. Chances are because you are taking this class online its not an important one anyways.

 

[Amalgamate]

Did they help you on a test/exam or was it just a homework assignment?

I say yes if it was a test

no if it was a homework assignment. This would mean it's cheating for anyone that gets help on homework or tutoring

 

[eagles22]

Drop the guilt. You need to do what you can to get the best grades possible. I have friends who literally copied/collaborated on every assignment, lab, paper, etc. through all 4 years of college. The only things they did alone were tests. They knew how to play the game. In 2 years, I'll be referring to them as doctor.

 

[crede]

everyone here must have high standards. i wasn't passing around a test, got an old test, or told the person to do the work for me. i just asked for checking after i did my work like a tutor would, albeit the person who checked didn't really help as i said in the beginning...

the point that i feel that was unfair is that you need to join to be a member to have access to the help that i had which was free and probably a few had the same access if they wanted to, just like you need to join sdn to have access to the info here or ask privately for help

I personally find people who can afford tutors unfair because people who can afford them have a greater advantage, such as people who can afford people to tutor them to ace the SATs have a greater advantage than anyone else in college admissions, again not everyone has the opportunity to pay for top notch SAT programs, how is that fair? or when people have tutors for AP classes in high school? but kind of tangential

about the points of my friends working together. the reason i brought that up is trying to figure out a complex problem is loads harder and more time consuming when working on it yourself than having a group of 4-5 work on it together and solving it within minutes. oftentimes i would have to start from scratch because i did the whole set wrong.

again i feel it is unfair to those who don't have access to friends in classes to figure it out themselves, would anyone agree? haven't you been in classes where you have to take it in a sequence and see the same group of people always pairing together working together, and it plain sucks when you have to figure it out yourself while someone in their group can just rely on someone else for the answers

 

[TooMuchResearch]

Online classes have no enforced honor code. I'm not saying I support it or that it's right. But you're not the first person that wasn't a perfect little student from the other side of the computer.

The enforcement of an honor code is dependent on the honor of the participants. The fact that the course is online makes no difference.

OP, it may or may not be cheating. It depends on whether you are allowed to use help, and the type of help allowed.

 

[TooMuchResearch]

everyone here must have high standards. i wasn't passing around a test, got an old test, or told the person to do the work for me. i just asked for checking after i did my work like a tutor would, albeit the person who checked didn't really help as i said in the beginning...

the point that i feel that was unfair is that you need to join to be a member to have access to the help that i had which was free and probably a few had the same access if they wanted to, just like you need to join sdn to have access to the info here or ask privately for help

I personally find people who can afford tutors unfair because people who can afford them have a greater advantage, such as people who can afford people to tutor them to ace the SATs have a greater advantage than anyone else in college admissions, again not everyone has the opportunity to pay for top notch SAT programs, how is that fair? or when people have tutors for AP classes in high school? but kind of tangential

about the points of my friends working together. the reason i brought that up is trying to figure out a complex problem is loads harder and more time consuming when working on it yourself than having a group of 4-5 work on it together and solving it within minutes. oftentimes i would have to start from scratch because i did the whole set wrong.

again i feel it is unfair to those who don't have access to friends in classes to figure it out themselves, would anyone agree? haven't you been in classes where you have to take it in a sequence and see the same group of people always pairing together working together, and it plain sucks when you have to figure it out yourself while someone in their group can just rely on someone else for the answers

High standards? I see posts telling you that you are cheating and it does not matter because you should be able to do whatever you want. These posters have no standards.

 

[music2doc]

I stopped doing this after feeling a very guilty/heavy conscience, but if I have someone check my answers to verify if they are right is that considered cheating?

This is for an online course, but not everyone has access to this person. this person is not a phd or expert in their field that they are helping me out with and they didn't solve the problem for me, they just checked, in fact i even got some problems wrong even though they said i was right in my thinking?

I feel bad because this isn't something everyone has access to in the course and I do because I'm a member, but at the same time I'm shy and I view my friends who help each other with problems in the same light as cheating, because when they work with each other they solve the whole problem together not allowing the person to come up with the answers by themselves.

I didn't realize that this could be cheating until I stopped. What is your take on this? Should I be feeling bad, and am I cheating? I'm not sending exams or having someone do the work for me? Would it be cheating if they did half the work or 3/4 if I couldn't figure it out?

😕 Perplexing the more I think about it, where are the lines to draw in cheating and asking for help? Am I suppose to do everything by myself and never ask for help even as I move on from this and risk making the same mistake over and over again.

And my example of my friends, even though they are working together, its not this specific case, but what do you have to say to this? Am I thinking too much into this?

Wow, I'm surprised at the wishy-washiness of the responses you've gotten.

From what I can gather, you're getting help on assignments (perhaps quizzes) from an unauthorized individual. You need to look at your school's honor code, but most that I've seen would label this cheating. A good tutor will never tell you whether your answer is right or wrong. Having done a lot of tutoring, I understand that this is quite often what students hope for. ("Am I doing this right?" "I know you can't tell me the answer, but is this the right answer?" "I just don't get it. Can you show me how to do this problem?" are all questions I cannot answer. I can guide you through and help you understand the underlying topic but I cannot and will not give you the answer or the exact solution so much as guide you toward the correct answer/solution.) The example you gave seems like a clear-cut form of cheating.

Now if you're asking whether or not you're likely to get caught, then the answer no. At the same time, though, you could falsify pt charts and billing to make yourself more money, avoid malpractice suits, get rid of nurses you dislike, etc. and chances are you wouldn't get caught...at least not at first. Nevertheless, it should be your conscience, not the fear of getting caught, that motivates you.

 

[Shizz]

Is it cheating? Yes.

Should you keep doing it? Yes.

Why? No.

 

[Web MD]

Seriously? Having answers double checked for an online course? The implication from this isn't that you're a morally bankrupt basterd that will falsify patient charts in the future, but more likely that you'll be calling consults to double check things. Ever pulled up wikipedia? Done a google search for an online class? I could walk to work every day, but it seems smarter to drive...

 

[mauberley]

If this was for a quiz or exam, then it's cheating.

Otherwise, no.