Is this true at MUSC tidal health?
Started by sevo00
A lot of this legal language about medical residents and their classification had to do with irs ruling 20-25 years ago when some institutions got too cute and slapped residents with “student facilities fees” like library access fees
Page 2 is the most important page. I got back 11k so that was a nice little refund.
So irs and schools re classified medical residents in 2005.
What is a “Nurse Anesthesiogy Resident”, and why is the Anesthesiology department and Chief there allowing that.
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How are SRNAs “employed?” Can anyone confirm the validity of this?
My hospital in dallas and all the anesthesiologist- chief and medical directors - allowed Srna’s to introduce themselves as residents. Said resident on their badge
My hospital in dallas and all the anesthesiologist- chief and medical directors - allowed Srna’s to introduce themselves as residents. Said resident on their badge
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No lounge is harsh. Go Team!!
Meh, this would piss me off but it’s just poor delivery of a truth that has existed everywhere I have ever worked.
It is true that residents are not owed a minimum wage or overtime. Some places do overtime as a way to make their programs more attractive but it is voluntary.
The work hours thing is, again, horrible messaging but not untrue.
Of the last 3 places I have worked where there were residents, two had a lounge for attendings only and one for attendings and APPs. None allowed residents, but gave them separate space.
It is true that residents are not owed a minimum wage or overtime. Some places do overtime as a way to make their programs more attractive but it is voluntary.
The work hours thing is, again, horrible messaging but not untrue.
Of the last 3 places I have worked where there were residents, two had a lounge for attendings only and one for attendings and APPs. None allowed residents, but gave them separate space.
I mean, we get it, but why throw that in their face. Seems pretty malignant… “student resident”? Never heard that term used before. No lounge? Wow. Malignant. This is def not a program Id want to be in. Sounds more like a prison.
It’s like a Student Doctor Nurse Anesthesiologist but different. Not sure what the confusion is.
Just refer to them as anesthesia nursing students in front of one of them once. They will get the message.
Not sure... they did have a resident jump from a bridge a couple of years ago. Ive heard some good things and bad things about that program.
Looks like a slide from an orientation PPT that the GME office gives to new residents.
Timing is right for that too
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At least residents are not lumped in with “providers”. That’s a plus.
Still, they need a union.
We dont allow that kind of culture in my clinic. There are physicians and then there are midlevel providers. I dont care if they like it or not.At least residents are not lumped in with “providers”. That’s a plus.
Still, they need a union.
Here are the actual laws taken from the citations in the document above. These laws were written in 1994, long before there were DNP, thus the differentiation between CRNAs and MDs.
(1) any employee employed in a bona fide executive, administrative, or professional capacity (including any employee employed in the capacity of academic administrative personnel or teacher in elementary or secondary schools), or in the capacity of outside salesman (as such terms are defined and delimited from time to time by regulations of the Secretary, subject to the provisions of subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5, except that an employee of a retail or service establishment shall not be excluded from the definition of employee employed in a bona fide executive or administrative capacity because of the number of hours in his workweek which he devotes to activities not directly or closely related to the performance of executive or administrative activities, if less than 40 per centum of his hours worked in the workweek are devoted to such activities)
§ 541.304 Practice of law or medicine.
(a) The term “employee employed in a bona fide professional capacity” in section 13(a)(1) of the Act also shall mean:
(1) Any employee who is the holder of a valid license or certificate permitting the practice of law or medicine or any of their branches and is actually engaged in the practice thereof; and
(2) Any employee who is the holder of the requisite academic degree for the general practice of medicine and is engaged in an internship or resident program pursuant to the practice of the profession.
(b) In the case of medicine, the exemption applies to physicians and other practitioners licensed and practicing in the field of medical science and healing or any of the medical specialties practiced by physicians or practitioners. The term “physicians” includes medical doctors including general practitioners and specialists, osteopathic physicians (doctors of osteopathy), podiatrists, dentists (doctors of dental medicine), and optometrists (doctors of optometry or bachelors of science in optometry).
(c) Employees engaged in internship or resident programs, whether or not licensed to practice prior to commencement of the program, qualify as exempt professionals if they enter such internship or resident programs after the earning of the appropriate degree required for the general practice of their profession.
(d) The requirements of § 541.300 and subpart G (salary requirements) of this part do not apply to the employees described in this section.
§213. Exemptions
(a) Minimum wage and maximum hour requirements
The provisions of sections 206 (except subsection (d) in the case of paragraph (1) of this subsection) and section 207 of this title shall not apply with respect to-(1) any employee employed in a bona fide executive, administrative, or professional capacity (including any employee employed in the capacity of academic administrative personnel or teacher in elementary or secondary schools), or in the capacity of outside salesman (as such terms are defined and delimited from time to time by regulations of the Secretary, subject to the provisions of subchapter II of chapter 5 of title 5, except that an employee of a retail or service establishment shall not be excluded from the definition of employee employed in a bona fide executive or administrative capacity because of the number of hours in his workweek which he devotes to activities not directly or closely related to the performance of executive or administrative activities, if less than 40 per centum of his hours worked in the workweek are devoted to such activities)
§ 541.304 Practice of law or medicine.
(a) The term “employee employed in a bona fide professional capacity” in section 13(a)(1) of the Act also shall mean:
(1) Any employee who is the holder of a valid license or certificate permitting the practice of law or medicine or any of their branches and is actually engaged in the practice thereof; and
(2) Any employee who is the holder of the requisite academic degree for the general practice of medicine and is engaged in an internship or resident program pursuant to the practice of the profession.
(b) In the case of medicine, the exemption applies to physicians and other practitioners licensed and practicing in the field of medical science and healing or any of the medical specialties practiced by physicians or practitioners. The term “physicians” includes medical doctors including general practitioners and specialists, osteopathic physicians (doctors of osteopathy), podiatrists, dentists (doctors of dental medicine), and optometrists (doctors of optometry or bachelors of science in optometry).
(c) Employees engaged in internship or resident programs, whether or not licensed to practice prior to commencement of the program, qualify as exempt professionals if they enter such internship or resident programs after the earning of the appropriate degree required for the general practice of their profession.
(d) The requirements of § 541.300 and subpart G (salary requirements) of this part do not apply to the employees described in this section.
