It's about that time...RISE Exam question

[fldhkybnva]

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I have ready the numerous old RISE exam threads and this is not another thread about whether or what to study. I am a first year and don't plan to study however just wanted to know as I go into the exam, is it generally considered an exam with plenty of time for most people to finish or is it similar to shelf exams in that it is a mad rush to answer the questions in the time allotted? Thanks.

 

[mlw03]

I recall myself (and others in my program) not struggling to finish. There's not a ton of thinking for a lot of them - they're recall or recognize type questions, and extra time won't make a huge difference most of the time.

 

[cliquesh]

Do RISE scores play a role in the fellowship process? I know in service exams in gen surgery are used like usmle scores when applying to fellowship. I don't know if that is true for pathology.

 

[mlw03]

Do RISE scores play a role in the fellowship process? I know in service exams in gen surgery are used like usmle scores when applying to fellowship. I don't know if that is true for pathology.

As far as I know, no.

 

[LaBelleVN]

Fellowships do not look at RISE scores. Your program will. If you do poorly your first year, it's pretty much understood that you just haven't experienced many of the rotations and will do better next time. Scoring low your third year may prompt your program director to meet with you and go over why you did poorly and what you can do to improve. There's literature out there (search the CAP site) that RISE scores are correlated to passing the boards. Since it's your first year, just wing it.

 

[cliquesh]

Thanks

 

[KCShaw]

I seem to recall the time allotted being pretty reasonable.

 

[sirenomelia]

In my experience it does matter. The bell curve is broad and if you're in there you're under the radar if thats what you want. If you excel- and it doesnt take much to as the questions/topics are frequently recycled and very predictable, you draw positive attention- esp as a first year to produce a positive first impression that will stick- opportunities to write something/publish or receive more scope time go up. If I know someone is motivated I am going to feel more inclined to invest time in them or trust them to follow-through on or be thorough with a project and make my experience better/easier. Alot of PD's also either directly put into the LOR's or insert language implying RISE performance as a means of qualifying/ comparing a residents potential for fellowship, etc. Conversely if you blow off your RISE- and it is temtping to early on as you have limited to no direct exposure to many topics you can put yourself in the doghouse individually or collectively as a resident group and affect the tone of the residency on a negative/ more malignant manner.

 

[TMZ2007]

Yep, agree with Sironmelia. If you do better/worse than the mean, people will notice. Don't be surprised if you do poorly on material that you've not been exposed to, but do try to do as well as possible, especially if your program administers the exam properly (not open book, no group answering, etc.) That being said, I'd take it cold so that you have a better idea about your learning progress. I've seen a few people in my program try to cram for the RISE reviewing ASCP/Osler notes in the 2-3 weeks before, and they haven't shown much improvement in their scores (AFAIK), so it seems like a waste of time.